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Star Trek TOS "Balance of Terror"

Old 06-17-03, 07:51 PM
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Star Trek TOS "Balance of Terror"

Broadcast on SciFi tonight. What a great episode. It just makes me think of how bad Enterprise is. Not to mention the inconsistencies that become apparent btwn the 2.
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Old 06-17-03, 07:57 PM
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Yes! One of my all time favs. It's on one of only 4 TOS DVDs I own.
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Old 06-17-03, 07:59 PM
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Definitely one of the best of any Trek series.
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Old 06-17-03, 08:00 PM
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Refresh my memory what is it about?
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Old 06-17-03, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by McHawkson
Refresh my memory what is it about?

First TOS showdown with the Romulans. Cat and mouse - submarine like battle.
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Old 06-17-03, 08:45 PM
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I don't remember... Maybe I should rent it and see.
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Old 06-17-03, 08:57 PM
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and the thing is, if B&B wanted to take Enterprise into a huge war type thing they could have used the established continuity from Balance of Terror and shown the Earth-Romulan war
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Did you notice Spock's father as the Romulan commander?
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Old 06-17-03, 09:31 PM
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Originally posted by Numanoid
Did you notice Spock's father as the Romulan commander?
Did you notice the string the Bird of Prey is dangling from after Kirk blows the crap out of it?

maybe that's just in the 50 minute unedited version.........
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Originally posted by Numanoid
Did you notice Spock's father as the Romulan commander?


Did you notice James Cromwell played 3 different characters in Star Trek: The Next Generation (including movie).

I noticed that many of Star Trek guests has involved more than one episode.
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Old 06-17-03, 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Numanoid
Did you notice Spock's father as the Romulan commander?
I didn't figure that out until I saw the credits. It is interesting.


It has always been one of my favorites. I still get annoyed with the predjudiced guy every time I see it. I think there's a TNG episode that parallels this one, but I can't remember for sure off the top of my head.

I haven't watched Enterprise, after the end of voyager I have lost a lot of interest in new Star Trek.
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how did they hear each other through space?? i liked the submarine analogy. good episode. sigh....such a simple time in tv.
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Old 06-18-03, 02:15 AM
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Balance Of Terror has always been one of my favorite Trek episodes.

Nick Meyer really picked up on that submarine theme from Balance Of Terror and used it for the final battle in ST II.

This was actually one of the episodes that I hoped Berman would look to in setting the tone and style of Enterprise. Wishful thinking, I guess....
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Old 06-18-03, 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Numanoid
Did you notice Spock's father as the Romulan commander?
Not really. All Romulo-Vulcans look alike.
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Old 06-18-03, 07:27 AM
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Mark Lenard played a Romulan, Vulcan and Klingon. We all know that he was Spock's father (Vulcan) and the Romulan commander in Balance of Terror. Can you guess where he played a Klingon?

Answer:
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He was the commander of the lead Klingon warship "investigating" V-ger at the beginning of Star Trek: The Motion Picture
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Old 06-18-03, 07:36 AM
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Jeffrey Combs must take the prize for most Trek characters:

Shran
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Originally posted by Chew
Did you notice the string the Bird of Prey is dangling from after Kirk blows the crap out of it?

maybe that's just in the 50 minute unedited version.........

Funny you mention this. I notice that SciFi has re-edited its Star Trek airings. They are different cuts than the syndicated cuts that I grew up watching. So to answer your question, they did show the 'dangling' in the SciFi version - I don't think I have ever seen that shot before (same with the scene of the Bird of Prey moving through the tail of the comet).

Some good cheese in this episode too - Kirk and Rand holding each other when the plasma energy weapon hits the ship and then the shot of the Enterprise at a 45 degree angle after getting hit by the atomic weapon.


and the thing is, if B&B wanted to take Enterprise into a huge war type thing they could have used the established continuity from Balance of Terror and shown the Earth-Romulan war
Of course, Enterprise predates it. The problem is that they already have torpedoes and lasers in Enterprise. In Balance of Terror, they mention the war being fought with old style atomic weapons.
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Of course, Enterprise predates it. The problem is that they already have torpedoes and lasers in Enterprise. In Balance of Terror, they mention the war being fought with old style atomic weapons.
Although I haven't watched Balance of Terror lately, I think they also say there was only audio communication and no visual during the war. Yet another Enterprise goof.
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Quoth Chew
Jeffrey Combs must take the prize for most Trek characters:



I'm pretty sure Vaughn Armstrong still holds the record:

Korris
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Originally posted by Chew
Although I haven't watched Balance of Terror lately, I think they also say there was only audio communication and no visual during the war. Yet another Enterprise goof.

I can actually buy that theory - I can assume you need visual capacity on both ends to see each other during the original war. Maybe the Romulans don't have the capability.

It seems like Kirk's Enterprise could simply pick up a signal and create the visual.
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Originally posted by das Monkey
Quoth Chew
Jeffrey Combs must take the prize for most Trek characters:



I'm pretty sure Vaughn Armstrong still holds the record:

Korris
Gul Danar
Telek R'Mor
Seskal
Two of Nine
Vidiian Captain
Alpha Hirogen
Korath
Admiral Forrest
Kreetassan

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Wow, I never released that. I guess Combs is just a name I recognized more often. I stand corrected!
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Wow, I never released that. I guess Combs is just a name I recognized more often. I stand corrected!



He's always so covered in make-up and doesn't have the distinctive voice, so he's not always recognized.
Spoiler:
He's also not as good an actor - he's probably cheap.


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One of the things that I didn't remember from the episode that I noticed yesterday was the mention of Remus.

Beyond the obvious connection, I didn't realize that Remus had ever been mentioned when I saw Nemesis. It's nice to know that certain versions of ST can make sense together.
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Originally posted by Chew
Although I haven't watched Balance of Terror lately, I think they also say there was only audio communication and no visual during the war. Yet another Enterprise goof.
I believe that they've already encountered Romulans in Enterprise, and they only used audio communications.
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Originally posted by Numanoid
I believe that they've already encountered Romulans in Enterprise, and they only used audio communications.
Although this is true, I meant: based on Balance of Terror, Starfleet of Archer's time should only be capable of audio communication and not ship-to-ship visual.
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