Smallville Season Finale 5/20/03
05-19-03, 01:46 PM
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Link to discussion on previous episode, for anyone who needs a refresher:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=291843
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=291843
05-20-03, 12:10 PM
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Originally posted by McHawkson
Awful early to start thread, aren't we? Or is it Tuesday already?
Awful early to start thread, aren't we? Or is it Tuesday already?
Besides, you could start with the Kristin Kreuk appreciation
05-20-03, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by devilshalo
Nah, only a day in advance.. so people will remember.
Nah, only a day in advance.. so people will remember.
Yeah because the Smallville fans in the TV Talk forum have a hard time remembering when it is on.
05-20-03, 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Yeah because the Smallville fans in the TV Talk forum have a hard time remembering when it is on.
Yeah because the Smallville fans in the TV Talk forum have a hard time remembering when it is on.
05-20-03, 10:06 PM
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I thought it was a good episode up until the lazy writting of the red kryptonite, although to be fair it is "to be continued..." so I will reserve most of my judgement until then.
The plane crash bothered me though. Lex has to survive although I really don't see how he can survive crashing into the sea at a 60 degree angle while standing in the cockpit. hmm....
I don't think we can consider Jor-El evil yet.
It almost seemed like the things that happened happened too early in the shows life.
Was that an S or an 8
The plane crash bothered me though. Lex has to survive although I really don't see how he can survive crashing into the sea at a 60 degree angle while standing in the cockpit. hmm....
I don't think we can consider Jor-El evil yet.
It almost seemed like the things that happened happened too early in the shows life.
Was that an S or an 8
05-20-03, 10:10 PM
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. I do have a problem with the last shot of him on a motorcycle. He's riding 60 mph when he could run much faster.
My problems were not with what was on the screen but what was not on the screen. Mainly, the devastation of the ship imploding was covered in one line: power was knocked out over the entire county. Now there is a crater in the Kent farm (why didn't it destroy the other buildings on the farm?) and there is no sign of an investigation whatsoever. Where is the country sheriff that was on to Clark just a few episodes ago? If she had her doubts about him after witnessing him throw a man across an alley, she would have been all over this explosion at the Kent farm.
And who else was hoping to see Krypton when the ship showed the map of that planet appear before Clark? When it was just an image of Earth, I was so disappointed. I thought we would get to see a glimpse of Krypton. Now the ship is destroyed, I wonder if we will get to see Krypton. The ship in the movie (and probably in the comics) had much of the history of the doomed world in it, and I suspect that Clark destroyed much of the history of Krypton with that ship. It was a stupid move on his part in more ways than a few.
A dark side Chloe will be far more interesting than a whiney stalking Chloe we've seen this past season. I guess if they couldn't kill her off, changing her character is the best alternative.
The "cliffhanger" was much less impactful than last season. Really, what is the cliffhanger? Lex will live, Clark will get over his stupid actions and go back to Smallville High, and we will be back in the same rut we saw in the past two seasons with more FOTW episodes. The only real thing I am looking forward to seeing next season isn't the resolution to this "cliffhanger" but the new Greystoke series coming on WB Sundays! I have high hopes for that series!
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05-20-03, 11:59 PM
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man, i was like sweet there won't be any red K butthen the very last 10 mins i was like NOOO!! i dunno, i didn't think the finale was awsome or *****ty, im just ehh.
05-21-03, 12:18 AM
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Lana: Why didn't we hook up earlier? Why did it take so long?
Clark: Because the writers don't want us together. By the way, I'm leaving again. Hahaha!
Clark: Face it Chloe, you belong on your Wall of Weird. You're more a freak than I am. Stalker.
05-21-03, 08:30 AM
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I thought the use of the red kryptonite was great. He treats it like a drug - he said it was the only thing that could make him feel better. Sounds like a depressed teen who turns to drugs.
Yeah there were some plot holes about the crater and fallout but I thought it was a great ending for the season.
Oh and to Terrance Stamp (aka General Zod) as the voice of Jor-El.
Yeah there were some plot holes about the crater and fallout but I thought it was a great ending for the season.
Oh and
to Terrance Stamp (aka General Zod) as the voice of Jor-El.
05-21-03, 09:07 AM
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Originally posted by Red Dog
Oh and to Terrance Stamp (aka General Zod) as the voice of Jor-El.
Oh and
to Terrance Stamp (aka General Zod) as the voice of Jor-El.
Did he say "return to Krypton?"
What'd he say?
Huh?
If anyone knows what the hell he was saying in the first "meeting" between the two I'd like to know! I could've sworn he said "return to Krypton", but Krypton's gone!
Personally, I'm not liking the whole, "fufill your destiny", "rule the world" stuff from Jor-El. If that's the direction they wanted to go, they should have made the ship a super-computer with the repository of all Kryptonian knowledge. After the ship gets damaged, it tries to recreate Earth in the image of Krypton with Clark as the leader. Or something like that. I'm partial to old notion that Jor-el & Lara were nice people that just wanted to save their infant's life by getting him off of a doomed planet and onto a world where he might fit in.
I love the show and look forward to how they resolve all this.
05-21-03, 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by Soybean
And finally, while it's OK for Clark to screw up with Lana 213,986 times, it gets really old on the 213,987th time. I'd like to encourage the writers to be a tiny bit more original.
And finally, while it's OK for Clark to screw up with Lana 213,986 times, it gets really old on the 213,987th time. I'd like to encourage the writers to be a tiny bit more original.
I will say they had some seriously deep open-mouthed kisses between the two. Go get 'em, Clark!
Lana is the HOT!
For a while I was leaning towards Chloe but the writers have almost completely ruined the character. She goes to the dance with Clark, next day tells him they should just be friends, doesn't say otherwise until Clark is basically comatose and confesses her love for him, then gets bent out of shape and turns to the dark side when she sees him kissing Lana. Ugh.
I'm looking forward to next season mostly to find out what the heck's going on with Lex!?
05-21-03, 09:24 AM
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Was Clark riding off in the distance towards an icey area? I.e. is he heading for the FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE?? I think Red Kryptonite is kind of lame...but it seems Bad Clark listens to Jor-El, which is good... hopefully everything will work itself out... even though it was predictable, I was very upset that they lost the baby, and I don't know how (if ever) they will be able to forgive Clark for what he did... a real stupid move IMO.
Well, looking forward to next season.
MATT
I hope that is the fortress of solitude...that would rule
Well, looking forward to next season.
MATT
I hope that is the fortress of solitude...that would rule
05-21-03, 09:50 AM
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Personally, I'm not liking the whole, "fufill your destiny", "rule the world" stuff from Jor-El. If that's the direction they wanted to go, they should have made the ship a super-computer with the repository of all Kryptonian knowledge. After the ship gets damaged, it tries to recreate Earth in the image of Krypton with Clark as the leader. Or something like that. I'm partial to old notion that Jor-el & Lara were nice people that just wanted to save their infant's life by getting him off of a doomed planet and onto a world where he might fit in.
I love the show and look forward to how they resolve all this.
Personally, I'm not liking the whole, "fufill your destiny", "rule the world" stuff from Jor-El. If that's the direction they wanted to go, they should have made the ship a super-computer with the repository of all Kryptonian knowledge. After the ship gets damaged, it tries to recreate Earth in the image of Krypton with Clark as the leader. Or something like that. I'm partial to old notion that Jor-el & Lara were nice people that just wanted to save their infant's life by getting him off of a doomed planet and onto a world where he might fit in.
I love the show and look forward to how they resolve all this.
As for the "take over the world" plot, was this ever introduced at all in any other Superman storyline? I didn't really read the comic books enough, but I do recall in the Bruce Timm animated series, there were a few episodes with Bizzaro where he felt Superman wasn't doing his job and Bizzaro was determined to rebuild Krypton on Earth. And in the 400th issue of Superman (which I don't have anymore to reference), wasn't one of the future stories of where Superman was one of the sole survivors of Earth and was finally able to rebuild Krypton on Earth? Could it be that this has always been Superman's destiny, but he opted to not follow it? Perhaps the Smallville writers really aren't reaching all that much with this, but are using this concept more.
