You don't watch Buffy, eh? It was a reference to the episode that Andrew pulls out the great one-liners. And he was referring not to episode one of the tv show, but Episode One of Star Wars.

And you'll notice it's my tagline. :)

I too was thinking that The First might be looking for a way to get a vessel and is the baby inside of Cordy.

I do watch Buffy, but I just forgot about that joke.
That's always a little embarrassing. :D

Actually, I have one pet peeve about some of the spoiler tags around here. A lot of times, I don't know if its simply a spoiler detailing information I've already seen in the previous night's episode, or if it reveals something that has not yet aired.

Here's an example, using a completely hypothetical situation. (This is not really a spoiler as I'm making this up). Let's say the message is worded like this:

Good episode.

Well, I'm pretty annoyed by that! Sure it was in a spoiler tag, but I feel it could have been written a little better. Perhaps like this:

Good episode. Too bad next week

I just don't like playing a game of "sudden death" when I read what's in a spoiler tag. I find myself cringing when I read some of the spoilers, hoping its something that will enlighten me with information I already know rather than ruining a surprise for me with information that is not yet common knowledge. (Which has unfortunately happened on occasion.)

I thought the episode was pretty good but nothing to bite home aboout.
Time for Connor to go back to the Hell demension.

Excellent points. I've tried to do differentiate my spoilers as well, when I've used them. It is a crap shoot. One time, I was reading a thread for one show, and I highlighted a spoiler. The spoiler was referring to something upcoming in a completely different show that I watch... there's no way to be expecting or waiting for that.

Yeah - I like your crap shoot analogy, Captain Marvel. Personally, I could never understand the need to spoiler tag stuff that has already happened. I mean - if you haven't seen the episode yet, then why the heck are you reading a thread about it?

If the stuff that is truly a spoiler is placed in a spoiler tag, and the discussion about the actual episode is left unhidden it might cut down on some of the "surprises." If people don't agree with that, I guess you could put in your thread title that there are obvious spoilers about the episode being discussed - even though I think that is pretty much common sense.

For those new to the discussion, everything is explained quite plainly in this thread http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=187564 that has been stickied atop the forum for over a year.

<B>rennervision</B>, the common sense things are covered, i.e. you enter a thread with a show title and a date, you should expect that it contains information of events that occurred during that episode. If you use spoiler tags, don't waste them on stuff that isn't a spoiler "just in case" because it defeats the purpose. If you're going to use the tags, give some description of what the subject matter is so people know whether they want to read it or not.

These things are quite simple, and it's truly amazing we have to keep discussing it. Anyway, the problem isn't so much that the situation hasn't been covered in detail; it's that there are enough people who just don't care about following the rules and ruin it for the rest of us.

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I thought the Angelus/Faith fight scene was very well done. I've seen a lot worse in big budget movies.

I have to agree, the whole Cordy/Connor thing is getting old though. When is Cordy going to get arrested and locked up for being the dangerous sexual predator that she is? Statutory rape is still rape.

They don't get much better apart from Joss whedon who's commentary for season 3 "waiting in the wings" is everything you want and then some.

On the other hand Mere Smith's giggling and fawning on Tim Minnear's commentary for "Lullaby" made me want to tie her down until she'd listened to it a thousand times.

Oh well, they try.

I agree. Joss always delivers on the Buffy/Angel commentaries. I loved how he admitted he forgot Angel doesn't have a reflection when preparing to shoot that dressing room scene. Although he did go a little too far with the Amy Acker praise by comparing her to Audrey Hepburn. Easy there, Joss.

As for the Tim Minear and Mere Smith commentary, I only listened to about a third of it, but I enjoyed their humor and energy. The best moment was when Minear said he'd make a concerted effort to not simply describe the action onscreen like a lot of people do. "Commentary for the blind" he called it.

I don't think I have heard those commentaries, but I was referring to the commentaries with the writers not including Joss. I believe the director commentary they had for I forget which show was pretty good. Maybe I just got a little annoyed because I listened to the interviews before the episode and then I watched the commentary, and they said the exact same thing verbatim. Also how many times do they have to tell us "if it's a funny line, Joss wrote it."

I'm just nitpicking though because I actually wish there were more commentaries, but have some different people. How come no actor commentaries?

Doughboy I'm in total agreement with you, although maybe you were wise to quit listening to Mere when you did. There's got to be more interesting things to say than "You can't see me, but I'm behind that wall there in a directors chair". :lol:

I've often wondered that myself spainlinx0, yea, How come no actor commentaries?

I would have loved to have heard Alexis's take on the extras for "waiting in the wings", he looked a picture in those tights. -eek-

Lots of negativity in here and ganging up? Whys that?

I love the commentaries especially from Joss. I wish Sarah would agree to be interviewed though.
I just ordered the Musical episode from the UK. Pretty good deal. Dont want the rest of the season though. I didnt think it was that good.

I think that all the negativity and ganging up isn't too surprising.

This is the final year for Buffy and could be the final year for Angel. That doesn't leave too many chances for people to be surprised by these shows. I find it a lot more fun to be surprised by the show than surprised by some text on the internet. I'd rather not know what's going to happen until it happens.

I actually need to quickly finish up season 3, since these are the last old episodes that I haven't seen yet. Although I still have a few seasons of Angel to catch up on now. I'd previously only seen the first episode and the crossovers during Buffy season 4, which I first started watching Buffy. I wasn't that impressed with the ones that I saw, but I wasn't really that into Buffy at the time, so I'll have to give Angel another chance now, once Buffy season 4 comes out on DVD.

Towards the beginning of the ep, when Wesley was asking Faith if she was up to slaying, I thought she was going to say "Oh, I'll bring it."

I don't mind the absence of actor commentaries too much since most of the cast members(at least the ones not named Sarah Michelle Gellar) are more than willing to participate in the featurettes and terrific season overviews on the box sets. Although Alexis Denisof does sound bizarre without his English accent.

I thought James Marsters sounded and looked pretty weird on the featurette I saw of him. It was just strange seeing Spike with no accent and sporting a surfer look with a tan.

I've gotten used to James Marsters US accent, but those georgous blue eyes are just something else.

No wonder they make him wear brown lenses, without them he looks a lot less menacing and more like a "Big, fluffy puppy".

Good to see another Spike/Marsters fan. :up: I'll have to check out his featurette (since I'm too busy watching the eps first).

I remember seeing James Marsters on Politically Incorrect and besides being struck by hearing his American accent, I was also impressed by how intelligent and well-informed he was.

Count me in as another fan. He could bite my neck anytime. :thumbsup:

They don't make him wear brown contacts. His eyes are just so dark and Buffy in general is so darkly lit, you can't tell the color usually; however, there are several episodes where you can see those gorgeous blue peepers quite clearly. i.e. "Tabula Rasa", "Smashed", "Beneath You"...I could go on, but I won't.

And yeah, total JM/Spike fan here too.

~wis

If you look at the extras in the Buffy season 2 featurette you'll see that his eyes there are clearly a bright vivid blue.
They look so natural I'd bet that the brown eyes are the lenses.

Edit: Just looked again with the zoom, and sometimes they look blue, sometimes light hazel, so it's probably tricky lighting.
Anyway I'm glad everyone agrees he's lovely, he's certainly my favourite part of Buffy lately.

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no way!