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Old 03-06-03, 02:20 AM
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Bill Clinton to '60 Minutes'

http://www.tvweek.com/news/web030503.html
Former President Bill Clinton, who has periodically flirted with the idea of a job in TV since he left office in 2000, has landed a spot on the biggest news program of all: CBS News' "60 Minutes."

The Drudge Report late Wednesday night reported that "60 Minutes," starting this Sunday, will pit Mr. Clinton and Republican former Sen. Bob Dole against each other in a revival of the old "Point/Counterpoint" format that featured journalists Shana Alexander and James Kilpatrick debating each other in the late '70s.

So familiar was the segment to the public that it inspired parody on "Saturday Night Live" in skits in which Dan Aykroyd could be counted on to call Jane Curtin "you ignorant slut."
Maybe it should be Ann Coulter with Bubba then

According to the Drudge report, Mr. Clinton, who is friends with CBS topper Les Moonves, will be paid $1 million for the gig that initially is expected to last for 10 weeks.
So how long before Perot demands equal time? Although not original, it should be interesting having a former President as one of the debaters. Not being a fan of either, I'll still likely watch- solely for the curiosity factor.
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I actually think Bob Dole and Bill Clinton are perfect for this format. They are both smart - and they both have good sense of humors. This could be interesting.

It's better than hearing about another freaking reality show. I am glad to hear Clinton isn't wasting his time w/ a talk show like some of the rumors have said.
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Is Bob Dole going to be paid in Viagra?
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Dole gets the blue pill, Clinton gets the red pill.
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Sounds good...I look forward to Sunday's show.

I think it's good that Clinton and Dole are teaming up for this, but I don't understand why they have been seen walking down the street holding hands.
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This sounds cool. I've been neglecting 60 Minutes lately for no good reason other than I hear enough crap about war, I'll have to start watching again.

It should be fun to hear Clinton speak candidly about politics after all that has happened. Everything was about Lewinsky when he left office. I already know Dole should be great on this from all his talk show appearances.
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Dole gets the blue pill, Clinton gets the red pill.
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Here's the set up for spots:
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/ap/20030306/104697570000.html
The segments will revive the "Point-Counterpoint" segments popular until they stopped airing in 1979, but will instead be called "Clinton/Dole" one week and "Dole/Clinton" the next week.

Executive producer Don Hewitt said the planned format calls for one debater to pick a topic and write a 45-second script that would be faxed to his opponent. The response would also be 45 seconds. After the initial arguments, the first debater would get 15 seconds to rebut, followed by a final 15 seconds from the opponent.
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"Bill, you ignorant slut!"

(Or is that man-whore?)
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This will be worth it just to see Clinton try to come up with 15-second rebuttals. Politics aside, the guy is pretty freakin' long-winded.


I'm sure that this will be a big hit in the ratings, but of limited value as "news" or even "infotainment". Talk about the ultimate in sound bites -- lets take important issues of the day and let people debate it. (But only for 1 minute each.)
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The Bill Clinton and Bob Dole Show!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...-2003Mar6.html

Clinton, Dole Ready for 120 Seconds
Ex-Rivals Tape First '60 Minutes' Debate

By Howard Kurtz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 7, 2003; Page C01



Sounding more like a stand-up comedy duo than former presidential rivals, Bill Clinton and Bob Dole yesterday described their forthcoming face-offs on "60 Minutes" as dignified debating, not partisan brawling.

"I just wanted to make sure I wouldn't do anything that a former president shouldn't ," Clinton said from New York. "I respect this program. It's a serious program." And if it doesn't work out, "we can always get fired."

"I'm around to keep an eye on him," Dole said.

"Bob Dole sucker-punched me into this," Clinton said. "I'm dumb enough to do it and now they're stuck with me."

The 1996 combatants for the White House, who will be conducting two-minute debates starting Sunday night, each did several takes at their first taping yesterday morning in Manhattan. There was plenty of kibitzing from executive producer Don Hewitt, who made numerous suggestions about simplifying sentences and improving delivery as they hashed over whether taxes should be cut before a war. "They are so malleable, pliable and ready to understand they're in a new medium," Hewitt said.

The deal for the former opponents to revive the old "Point/Counterpoint" debate on the CBS newsmagazine reflects their late-blooming friendship, television's hunger for celebrity and the collapsed wall that once separated the political and media worlds.

"It's not going to be a screaming match," Dole said. "We're not going to get a hatchet out and beat each other up. It'll be provocative."

The arrangement, negotiated by Washington superlawyer Robert Barnett, who represents both men, will last 10 weeks but could easily be renewed next season if the format works and Clinton and Dole have the time to keep taping the segments.

"This is about all the television I want to do," said Clinton, who had toyed with offers of a daily talk show on NBC or CBS. "I'm trying to do something that would help my fellow citizens without being over the top. I don't care so much about making converts to my ideas as helping people to understand the issues."

Asked if it was unseemly for a former president to have such a high television profile -- and to criticize President Bush -- Clinton said that "it's a matter of public record" that he has "expressed my differences with the current administration" on such issues as the Kyoto global-warming treaty.

"If I get up and tie my shoes in the morning, someone criticizes me. This will enable Rush Limbaugh to help raise another $45 million for groups I don't agree with." (Clinton has a serious prosecution complex with Limbaugh)

Limbaugh, who says he almost never engages in fundraising, was quick to slam Clinton on his radio show. "The stuff people really want to hear Bill Clinton address will not even be brought up -- Juanita Broaddrick (who accused him of a 1978 sexual assault), North Korea, contempt-of-court citations. . . . This is just more of the Bill Clinton rehabilitation legacy tour," Limbaugh said.

Former Clinton spokesman Joe Lockhart said that Limbaugh should "keep his mouth shut" and that the debates are "just one way to continue being part of the public service system," in addition to Clinton's global work on AIDS and other issues. (Once again proving that free speech is an idea only suitable for those that liberals determine can use it properly)

The Democratic ex-president and the Republican ex-lawmaker share one unusual bond: Their wives won Senate seats as they were leaving public life. Both men said they hoped not to cause trouble for the officeholders in the family.

"I'm going to be anxiously awaiting Sunday nights," Hillary Rodham Clinton said from Capitol Hill yesterday. "Elizabeth Dole and I will be holding our breath. . . . If people don't agree with what he says, they should call his office, not mine."

The New York senator said her husband was drawn by the prospect of a "civilized" discourse that would not be "ranting and raving." (And thus, it will not get ratings)

As for the North Carolina senator, she said: "Bob assures me that it's all part of his strategy to win the presidency -- of the Senate Spouses Club."

Hewitt first approached Barnett last fall with the idea of sharing a weekly commentary segment. He said he pitched the segment as an alternative to "that raucous, overheated, Sunday-talk-show, John-McLaughlin-screaming" format. "Someone can express what he wants to say and the other guy can counter it thoughtfully and politely."

Barnett said he already had a four-inch folder with offers for broadcast, cable, radio and Internet programs from around the world. But Clinton was intrigued by Hewitt's proposal, even though years earlier he had been angry with "60 Minutes" over its handling of his appearance during the 1992 campaign to deny Gennifer Flowers's allegations of an affair.

"Hewitt and I talked a thousand times," Barnett said, hashing over how long the segment would be, who would pick the subjects and, inevitably, who had enough stature to be Clinton's opponent. Barnett has played the Republican opponent in mock presidential debates for several Democrats, including Clinton.

"During the discussions it became obvious to everyone that it should be Senator Dole," Barnett said. "He is a war hero and was a presidential candidate, Senate majority leader and party chairman, and he and the president have a great relationship. (and quite possibly the worst debater ever to be elected to any office in the United States of America)" Hewitt said he got the idea from Clinton's former White House counsel, Lloyd Cutler, and former Nixon Cabinet member Pete Peterson.

Hewitt sat down with Clinton in his Harlem office. "This gives you a chance to make a mini-State of the Union once a week," he told the former president. (and Bill accepted since that is something he thinks a former President should do )

Soon afterward, Hewitt huddled with Dole in his downtown Washington office, where they watched tapes of the old "60 Minutes" debates between James Kilpatrick and Shana Alexander -- which were memorably mocked by Dan Aykroyd and Jane Curtin on "Saturday Night Live" with the zinger: "Jane, you ignorant slut!"

Hewitt and the others were struck by how long the three-minute segments seemed by today's standards, and he decided to limit the debates to two 45-second statements followed by 15-second rebuttals. They will take turns going first and e-mailing each other their scripts.

After further negotiations over such matters as salaries, which were described as substantial but not disclosed, Clinton and Dole held a practice taping early last month, in full makeup, at Georgetown's Four Seasons Hotel. Everyone was pleased with the outcome. Clinton likened the civil exchange to those between his old boss, antiwar senator J. William Fulbright, and Secretary of State Dean Rusk during the Vietnam conflict. Clinton and Dole left separately to preserve the project's secrecy.

The pair have not always been boffo at the box office. Their second debate in 1996 drew 36 million viewers, the lowest number in the history of such televised encounters. Dole complained in that campaign that various Clinton scandals weren't receiving enough attention, asking: "Where is the outrage in America?"

But Lockhart said the two men grew close when Dole left the Senate and backed Clinton on military intervention in Bosnia, and when they teamed up to raise scholarship money for families affected by the Sept. 11 tragedy.

Dole is no stranger to punditry, having been a Comedy Central commentator as well as a Pepsi and Viagra pitchman, while Clinton recently did a round of interviews with Katie Couric, Judy Woodruff and Larry King.

Asked yesterday how a man who once gave hour-long speeches could distill his wisdom to 45 seconds, Clinton said: "I have no idea. I hope I'm an old dog that can still learn new tricks."

Dole said 45 seconds was perfect because "I don't have any ideas." (And thus the perfect conservative for CBS)

Will their feelings be bruised if their debates turn into a new "Saturday Night Live" skit? "I'd be hurt if it doesn't," Clinton said.
Obviously my thoughts are in (). What a terrible idea no matter how you slice it
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Re: The Bill Clinton and Bob Dole Show!!!

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(Clinton has a serious prosecution complex with Limbaugh)
Did you mean persecution, or are there actual legal wranglings afoot?
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I can't wait for the viagra debate......
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I'm quite certain that Clinton would never do anything a President or ex-President should not do.

I heard Clinton is getting 1 million dollars for this. They didn't say how much Dole is getting - less I would imagine. However, Dole doesn't need the money as much as Clinton.

If Dole is not to far gone and can return to his old days when he was sharp, acerbic, and just plain mean it should be "interesting."

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If Dole is not to far gone and can return to his old days when he was sharp, acerbic, and just plain mean it should be "interesting."
Or they could just hire Norm MacDonald to play him.
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Dole was interesting once? IMO Dole sucks. BUCHANAN should have won the 96 primary. Clinton is a disgrace. I don't even like calling him an american. He is a worse traitor than B. Arnold. 2nd worst President ever.

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Originally posted by classicman2
If Dole is not to far gone and can return to his old days when he was sharp, acerbic, and just plain mean it should be "interesting."
I can't wait for him to say "Bill, you ignorant slut!"

Dole should cream (bad choice of words given the object here?) Clinton in discussions of policy and legislative matters. And, with nothing at risk, Dole's wit could be great to watch. Especially if aimed at Clinton.

But I have a feeling these bits will be well researched and scripted so it'll just be your-side/my-side statements. Boring.
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Dole. . .cream. . .viagra

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Sorry, just giving my honest opinion on Bill and Bob

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Dole. . .cream. . .viagra

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Yeah, I guess it works for the subject and the object of the sentence.
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Starting when?
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Starting when?
Starting tonight (3/9) and it's at some point in the middle of the show.

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Maybe there's hope of the "old" Dole after all.

Dole Displeased With '60 Minutes' Debate
Sun Mar 9, 9:06 AM ET

GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) Former U.S. Sen. Bob Dole says he's displeased with the first of at least 10 debates against former President Bill Clinton that will air on "60 Minutes."

The two 1996 presidential opponents taped a debate Thursday morning about the wisdom of a tax cut in wartime. It will air Sunday.

"I think it needs to be a little tougher," Dole said Friday before speaking at a Lincoln Day dinner held by Guilford County Republicans. "It needs to have a little more edge to it for people to be interested."

Clinton picked the first topic and Dole will choose the next.

Each of the debates will feature about 45 seconds of commentary from each man.

"I don't know how they'll get it into 60 minutes," Dole said. "To try to get (Clinton) to say anything in 45 seconds is pretty hard."

Both men are spouses of U.S. senators. Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), D-N.Y., and Sen. Elizabeth Dole (news - web sites), R-N.C., were "both terrified" about what their husbands may say, Clinton has said.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...le_6&printer=1
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