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das Monkey 03-06-03 03:57 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Adrian •<HR SIZE=1>das,

I have a life. I'm not like some people here who live in this thread (err forum). :)
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I have nothing to offer in response to that comment but -rolleyes- Enjoy your movie ...

das

Patman 03-06-03 08:01 AM

Simon simply went with the teeny-bopper factor when he picked Carmen (she's cute, young, blonde, nice rack) with a yodelling type of voice. Perhaps he was drunk. I don't think he's all that good a judge of vocal talent, but I think he's more into looks and packaging of "musical talent".

If I see Ruben with another "205" XXXXL jersey, I'm crossing him off the list.

BTW, they should have told us the America's choice first (because everyone knew Clay was moving into the next round), and then hit the audience with Simon's bombshell/braindead pick of Carmen.

Patman 03-06-03 08:03 AM

My wishlist for the first 4 casualties of America Idol 2:

Rickey
Charles
Corey
Carmen

das Monkey 03-06-03 08:16 AM

Looking at the list, I see once again there's great representation from the South. Depending where you draw the line, we have one from GA, one from AL, three from TN, one from NC, and two from the independent nation of Texas.

At this point, I find I have little to no interest in Carmen, Charles, Julia, or Kimberley. I know it sounds mean, but Julia just gives off this "trashy" vibe to me, and as powerful as Kimberley's voice is, she annoys me. I'm not particularly thrilled over Corey, Rickey, or Trenyce either, but I don't have any real negative feelings about them yet. In any case, I'll wait until they have a chance to really sing before reserving judgment on any of them.

das

Patman 03-06-03 08:34 AM

How many theme shows can they come up with for 10 weeks plus the sing-off show at the end?

I'm looking forward to seeing how many are one-trick ponies and which ones are the real singers.

das Monkey 03-06-03 08:39 AM

Yeah, I'm sure some of these finalists will fall apart outside of their element.

I'm looking forward to another Big Band style night, but I'm definitely dreading the Ford Focus Cola-Cola Group Sing-a-longs.

das

Patman 03-06-03 08:53 AM

I have the clip of Kelly Clarkson doing "Stuff Like That" from the Big Band night last season, and she just owns that style of vocals and presentation.

Jadzia 03-06-03 09:10 AM

I was glad that Simon picked Carmen.

She is a different kind of singer, and I think it will be a better competition to have different singing styles represented.

You can only have so many Whitney Houston style balladeers.

I thought Carmen's song was bad, but I did like her voice and thought she had great stage presence. I was baffled at why the judges dissed her but praised Nasheka, who I thought was boring as hell.

I was happy Simon gave Carmen a shot. I think it will be interesting hearing what she comes up every week (as long as she lasts).

I gotta wonder who will be "voted off the island" first. It will all depend on what the first week's "theme" is and how good the contestants are at adapting their style week-to-week.

I think only then we will see who are the one-trick ponies, and who has the talent to really shine.

Personally, I think Clay will do really well. He has an amazing voice and he seems well-suited to singing various styles of music. I'm hoping he goes far.

Patman 03-06-03 09:17 AM

I laughed when they were showing the contestants at the Oliver Bean party and Clay made his ears look really really big. LOL!

Carmen should keep the straight hairdo because the curly pasta salad look is not appealing (to me).

Jadzia 03-06-03 09:37 AM

Am I the only one who thinks Carmen kind of looks like Buffy?

Every so often her facial expression would start to look a little like SMG.

Jadzia 03-06-03 09:40 AM

And she also looks a lot like "American Dreams" Brittany Snow

Carmen:

http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants...enrasmusen.jpg


Brittany:

http://www.nbc.com/photos/Primetime/...s/1AMDba02.jpg

Patman 03-06-03 10:22 AM

Umm...not to me. Carmen's lips are much fuller, and her eyes are less inviting than Brittany's.

(I can't believe I'm now watching American Dreams as well...)

potvin48 03-06-03 12:49 PM

How does this show work from this point on? Who votes? How many people leave each week? When is the show on from now on?

MrX 03-06-03 01:13 PM


Originally posted by potvin48
How does this show work from this point on? Who votes? How many people leave each week? When is the show on from now on?
Call in votes and 1 person a week leaves.

potvin48 03-06-03 01:15 PM

Wow, so this goes for another 3 months? What do they do on each show? how long is each show (I assume one hour)?

So from here on out, the judges really don't do anything?

Patman 03-06-03 01:16 PM

With 11 weeks of shows, they should have the season finale at the very end of Sweeps in May. Nice way to stretch out the season for the entire month of May by including 2 more contestants at the last minute.

MrX 03-06-03 01:23 PM


Originally posted by potvin48
Wow, so this goes for another 3 months? What do they do on each show? how long is each show (I assume one hour)?

So from here on out, the judges really don't do anything?

I think it will still be 1 hour Tuesday with a half hour on Wednesday. The judges will still give out their opinions but they don't have a say in who moves on.

rkndkn 03-06-03 01:31 PM

I think the reason Simon was so upset with the producers is because he was, in effect, forced to choose Carmen. I think everyone got together, was told Clay was America's pick. They then must have had a coin-toss type of situation, and Randy and Paula ended up getting to pick before Simon. Meaning Simon was left with a very poor pool to choose from. I frankly thought Carmen was one of the worst of the bunch, though she has an interesting tone to her voice. I think Simon was VERY upset because it makes him look bad to end up picking Carmen.

briank 03-06-03 01:37 PM

I really think the guys outshine the girls in this setup of 12.

I hoping Ruben and Clay go the furthest.

das Monkey 03-06-03 01:37 PM

What Simon did was definitely a bit low-class, calling out the Producers on camera; but the way Paula, Randy, and Seacrest kept kissing ass and then tried to FORCE Simon to apologize after the commercial was absolutely pathetic.

das

Daytripper 03-06-03 02:05 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
What Simon did was definitely a bit low-class, calling out the Producers on camera; but the way Paula, Randy, and Seacrest kept kissing ass and then tried to FORCE Simon to apologize after the commercial was absolutely pathetic.

das

It was pathetic. But it also felt forced. Like they had all talked about doing it beforehand.

fujishig 03-06-03 02:08 PM

Didn't they eliminate two people (EJ and Jim) on the first "finals" show last year? I missed when they were booted, and I don't think I missed two shows...

zuffy 03-06-03 03:23 PM


Originally posted by rkndkn
I think the reason Simon was so upset with the producers is because he was, in effect, forced to choose Carmen. I think everyone got together, was told Clay was America's pick. They then must have had a coin-toss type of situation, and Randy and Paula ended up getting to pick before Simon. Meaning Simon was left with a very poor pool to choose from. I frankly thought Carmen was one of the worst of the bunch, though she has an interesting tone to her voice. I think Simon was VERY upset because it makes him look bad to end up picking Carmen.
That is what I was thinking.

MrX 03-06-03 03:52 PM


Originally posted by rkndkn
I think the reason Simon was so upset with the producers is because he was, in effect, forced to choose Carmen. I think everyone got together, was told Clay was America's pick. They then must have had a coin-toss type of situation, and Randy and Paula ended up getting to pick before Simon. Meaning Simon was left with a very poor pool to choose from. I frankly thought Carmen was one of the worst of the bunch, though she has an interesting tone to her voice. I think Simon was VERY upset because it makes him look bad to end up picking Carmen.
While that's possible I don't see why he'd take Carmen when he told Nasheka she was brilliant the night before unless he saw something he liked in her.

Patman 03-06-03 03:53 PM

Too bad Simon isn't professional enough to not let his "feeling down" affect his criticism of the contestants. The man lacks empathy and a heart.


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