Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
#2851
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
I'd wager that 90% of the population wouldn't know Stan Lee from his name. Show them his picture and, "Oh yeah. That old guy in the superhero movies." Stan was a well known figure in comics, which is a sub culture. Comics are like a secret club and those who read them are in on the secret.
As huge as Game of Thrones is, less than 1% of the population knew the books existed and had ever read one. Those who had been reading them before the tv series were in on something that everybody else was left out on. Comics are like that.
As huge as Game of Thrones is, less than 1% of the population knew the books existed and had ever read one. Those who had been reading them before the tv series were in on something that everybody else was left out on. Comics are like that.
Yes the comics and characters are more widely known, but that doesn't mean they are as important to the general public as they are to the sub culture.
If a single guy had invented Trix, Alpha-Bits, Cocoa Puffs, Captain Crunch, Fruit Loops and Lucky Charms and died today, people would think about it minute and then never think about it again. That's what comics mean to the general population. It is in error to apply Stan's importance to the sub culture to the entire population.
Maher is wrong in not recognizing Stan's importance to the subculture, and right in that most people don't give a shit.
If a single guy had invented Trix, Alpha-Bits, Cocoa Puffs, Captain Crunch, Fruit Loops and Lucky Charms and died today, people would think about it minute and then never think about it again. That's what comics mean to the general population. It is in error to apply Stan's importance to the sub culture to the entire population.
Maher is wrong in not recognizing Stan's importance to the subculture, and right in that most people don't give a shit.
#2852
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
At a certain point I just had to mute all of Jack Kingston's filibustering. Too bad because I like Malcolm and Natasha.
#2853
DVD Talk Ultimate Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
rw2516 really hit the nail on the head.
#2854
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
I’m not projecting anything. I know people who are more casual type viewers who recognized Stan and after seeing multiple Marvel films started to recognize him and expected him to pop up. I’m sure if my circle of people who aren’t big comic fans recognized him that there are more out there. Even in the theaters or whatever when he’d pop up for his cameo he pretty much always got a reaction of some sort.
#2855
DVD Talk Limited Edition
#2856
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
#2857
DVD Talk Hero
#2858
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Absolutely no evidence to back up their claims.
Their willingness to mislead and outright lie are some of the worst examples of what's wrong with politics today.
I would pay good money for an opportunity to spend some time alone with them...
They are annoying.
Both have a habit of trying to take over the show (particularly West).
#2859
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Ugh. Matt Schlapp was the opening guest this week. When I heard that, I almost turned it off in disgust. As usual, when Bill pointed out any of the many, many, reasons Trump should not be President, Schlapp was the king of whataboutism. "But Obama... but Hillary..." Fuck Matt Schlapp.
The rest of the show was okay. Steele's evaluation of the current state of the 2020 presidential race was depressingly believable.
Mary Katherine Ham looked like she was dressed to go out clubbing after the show. Could that dress have been any tighter?
The 'Trump CPAC Speech Album' bit was funny. What a fucking depraved moron we have for a President.
The rest of the show was okay. Steele's evaluation of the current state of the 2020 presidential race was depressingly believable.
Mary Katherine Ham looked like she was dressed to go out clubbing after the show. Could that dress have been any tighter?
The 'Trump CPAC Speech Album' bit was funny. What a fucking depraved moron we have for a President.
#2860
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
I like it when Bill has on conservatives because it gives him the chance to call them on their hypocrisy and bullshit and affords them the opportunity to respond and answer for themselves. They won't get challenged like that anywhere else.
#2862
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Steele's evaluation of the current state of the 2020 presidential race was depressingly believable.
Mary Katherine Ham looked like she was dressed to go out clubbing after the show. Could that dress have been any tighter?
The 'Trump CPAC Speech Album' bit was funny. What a fucking depraved moron we have for a President.
Of course, the case could be made there are millions of "depraved morons" out there too...
Which is why so few are willing to go on his show.
#2863
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Jim Jordan was on Meet the Press last week, and he clearly articulated the GOP position on Trump: they don't give a shit about the scandals and lies as long as Trump is pushing their far right wing agenda, especially with court appointments, and this is what Matt Schlap had to say as well. I also heard a GOPer on some news show voicing the same thing this week.
Trump famously said he could kill someone and get away with it, and that is not far from hyperbole, as far as the GOP is concerned.
As long as Trump is pro-White, pro-rich, anti-regulation, and anti-abortion, the GOP is all good.
Trump famously said he could kill someone and get away with it, and that is not far from hyperbole, as far as the GOP is concerned.
As long as Trump is pro-White, pro-rich, anti-regulation, and anti-abortion, the GOP is all good.
#2864
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Jim Jordan was on Meet the Press last week, and he clearly articulated the GOP position on Trump: they don't give a shit about the scandals and lies as long as Trump is pushing their far right wing agenda, especially with court appointments, and this is what Matt Schlap had to say as well. I also heard a GOPer on some news show voicing the same thing this week.
#2865
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
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#2866
Banned
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Bill is so out of touch. The whole panel took him to task for most of the discussion segment.
#2867
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
I disagree with Bill about the Democratic primary debates/Fox News issue. You don't legitimize what has become a propaganda outlet for the hard right-wingers by giving them an important platform like that. The hardcore Fox News viewers who would only be exposed to the Dems in such a way are probably incapable of being persuaded to listen to reason. Anyone who is actually open to hearing the Dems arguments should have no problems finding their debates on other channels. Bill often criticizes the Dems for being too weak and not playing hardball like the Pubs do. Telling Fox News to fuck off is a sign, I think, that the Dems have a spine.
Some will say that Fox has respectable news people like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier and Shep Smith. So out of the dozens of regulars on Fox every day, you can name three or four who aren't totally in the pocket of the Republican party. Fuck that. Let Fox News get rid of the nutjobs like Hannity, Carlson, and Pirro if they want to be taken seriously by 'the other side'.
Some will say that Fox has respectable news people like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier and Shep Smith. So out of the dozens of regulars on Fox every day, you can name three or four who aren't totally in the pocket of the Republican party. Fuck that. Let Fox News get rid of the nutjobs like Hannity, Carlson, and Pirro if they want to be taken seriously by 'the other side'.
#2868
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Fox News is bad, but so are CNN and MSNBC. To think otherwise is living in a bubble. So if either CNN or MSNBC are hosting Democratic debates, then Fox News should be allow to as well. And all 3 should likewise be allowed to host Republican debates.
#2869
DVD Talk Special Edition
#2870
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
MSNBC has a left bias, sure, but they will usually report on and call out Democrats who do or say bad things. MSNBC may be 'friendly' toward Dems, but I don't see any evidence that, say, Maddow or Matthews is directly influencing the policies of the party.
CNN is cynical in that they seem only to care about ratings, even if that means bringing on the air personalities that repeatedly lie and obfuscate. CNN will chase and air whatever stories they thing will bring the most eyeballs. They will go for 'salacious' over 'substantial' any day. So, yeah, fuck CNN for being without a moral compass at all.
FOX News, however, puts on the air a bunch of science-denying, race-baiting nutjobs who lie and spin furiously to benefit the Republican Party and to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. And we've seen that people like Hannity and Pirro (who are both pretty unhinged) have a direct effect on Trump's mindset. FOX News is more than just 'friendly' toward the Republican Party, they are licking its asshole and screaming to the world that this shit tastes good.
#2871
DVD Talk Gold Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
It's a tough call: engage or not.
Can Fox viewers be open to science, logic, and rational reasoning?
I dunno...my gut reaction is only a few would be.
What to do?
IMO, we have reached a place of No Return.
IOW, it's time for a divorce.
Get out the maps and the Cartographers and get it done.
Can Fox viewers be open to science, logic, and rational reasoning?
I dunno...my gut reaction is only a few would be.
What to do?
IMO, we have reached a place of No Return.
IOW, it's time for a divorce.
Get out the maps and the Cartographers and get it done.
#2872
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
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FOX News, however, puts on the air a bunch of science-denying, race-baiting nutjobs who lie and spin furiously to benefit the Republican Party and to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. And we've seen that people like Hannity and Pirro (who are both pretty unhinged) have a direct effect on Trump's mindset. FOX News is more than just 'friendly' toward the Republican Party, they are licking its asshole and screaming to the world that this shit tastes good.
FOX News, however, puts on the air a bunch of science-denying, race-baiting nutjobs who lie and spin furiously to benefit the Republican Party and to demonize anyone who disagrees with them. And we've seen that people like Hannity and Pirro (who are both pretty unhinged) have a direct effect on Trump's mindset. FOX News is more than just 'friendly' toward the Republican Party, they are licking its asshole and screaming to the world that this shit tastes good.
#2873
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Damn Bill, sometimes you just have to know when to lay off the religion stuff. Mayor Pete is a rising star, but as soon as he mentions he wants to be inclusive of all people, even ones of faith, you jump all over him! Isn't Bill one of the people that say just how bad a purity test is for candidates?
#2874
Banned
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
Bill is still a bigoted, out of touch dick.
He called himself "middle-class" this episode. This is the guy who donated 1mil to Obama's re-election campaign in 2012.
He called himself "middle-class" this episode. This is the guy who donated 1mil to Obama's re-election campaign in 2012.
#2875
Re: Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO) - Series Discussion Thread
I read on Twitter that MSNBC has been telling their pundits to skip Maher's show after his House-N**** comment last year. Is this true?