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pagansoul 03-19-03 12:32 PM

Hay, the only reason I watched the thing was for the twins. The scenes with the twins were the best. The last segment was my favorite even though it went over the top in some places. The running, the stomping to call on the worm. I still loved it and I read the books (15 years ago). I just never try to expect things to be anywhere as good as a book. I'm just glad they made the effort.

Wizdar 03-19-03 12:54 PM


Originally posted by pagansoul
I just never try to expect things to be anywhere as good as a book.
There are many folks who expect a movie to be exactly like a book. That’s an unreasonable expectation (on many levels), IMO.

If I want to experience the book, I’ll read it. I’m looking for a different experience, although I’d like for there to be some continuity.

I remember a question posed to Harrison about the first movie about if he’s going to portray the ornithopters accurately. I’m thinking, c’mon, people, give him some room for creativity. :rolleyes: (BTW, aerodynamically speaking, they’re doing it wrong. But that’s for another discussion. ;))

Several Stephen King book movies seem exactly like their books. But, for some reason, they’ve never given me the same level of excitement found in the printed version.


Was unimpressed with the 2nd part of CoD. And I detest the music. I hope the 3rd has something to look forward to.

Spoiler:
I don’t remember a worm being “kidnapped” in the books. Of course, there’s lots of things I don’t remember…

bboisvert 03-19-03 01:37 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
Spoiler:
I don’t remember a worm being “kidnapped” in the books. Of course, there’s lots of things I don’t remember…

As I recall (and, I admit, my memory on this is fuzzy too), it is mentioned in the book but wasn't a major plot point. More of a 1 or 2-line thing "They tried it, it didn't work." They probably just included it in film because it would look cool (which it did).

thejammy 03-19-03 01:43 PM

now I never read the books But Children of Dune(scifi miniseries) is that a compilation of the several collection of books?

bboisvert 03-19-03 01:47 PM

Children of Dune (the miniseries) is based on the 2nd + 3rd books in the series. The first night covers Dune Messiah. The second and third nights cover Children of Dune.

Deckard-10 03-19-03 01:52 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
And I detest the music.
I love the music......so much so that I went and bought the soundtrack yesterday. I think Brian Tyler did a wonderful job of conveying (musically) the sense of awe and epic scale of Dune.

Wizdar 03-19-03 03:17 PM

O.K. Let me clarify: the music is just fine. But it doesn’t fit the movie. It’s too “American.”

I like the mood set by the music from the first movie better. It provided a very “foreign” feel that I think was important to “the awe and epic scale of Dune.”

But that’s JMO. YMMV.



Frankly, I haven’t found much to hold my interest here. I’m wondering if I would be lasting this long if I hadn’t read the books.

Kind of like with Taken. I’m hoping it will be worth it. I guess I’ll find out in a few hours.

Terrell 03-19-03 03:21 PM

I watched the entire 6 hour series. Here are my thoughts.

This is pretty much just like the original series. 95% of it consisted of people in fancy costumes, sitting around fancy sets while taking part in long winded discussion about very strange things. Banal dialogue. I just found the first 5 hours boring as hell. If you like all talk and no action, you should love this. No drama, suspense, and definitely no action. I've seen more action in a 1 hour episode of Smallville than I saw in 6 hours of CoD. These people never really do anything. Thus, my problem has to stem with the source material. After watching both th first mini-series and now the CoD mini-series, I now no longer wonder why so many hated the original.

Now, onto some positives. The last hour was very good. The reunion of Leto and his father in the desert was good stuff. Leto returning transformed was also good sutff. I thoroughly enjoyed the last 60 minutes. My only question would be where in the hell was this during the first 5 hours?

The effects were definitely a notch above the original. However, it's still about as good as you're going to get for a TV series. Effects are nowhere near the best effects used in film. I imagine low budgets and lack of experience on the part of the VFX house is the reason. But still, this was solid work for a TV and definitely a step above the work in the original Dune mini-series.

I was particularly impressed with Alec Newman and the actor playing Leto. The actress that played Leto's sister also did good work. I can see any of those three actors succeeding in big budget feature films. Surprisingly, Susan Sarandon gave an incredibly stiff performance. The actress playing Aliyah was terrible. The rest of the performances ranged from so-so to terrible.

For me, the best I could rate it would be a ** out of *****. I'm being kind by giving it that rating. The last hour couldn't make up for the first 5 hours of sheer boredom.

Deckard-10 03-19-03 05:17 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
O.K. Let me clarify: the music is just fine. But it doesn’t fit the movie. It’s too “American.”
I think it fit the movie fine, but that's just my opinion. -wink-

Deckard-10 03-19-03 05:29 PM


Originally posted by Terrell
This is pretty much just like the original series. 95% of it consisted of people in fancy costumes, sitting around fancy sets while taking part in long winded discussion about very strange things. Banal dialogue. I just found the first 5 hours boring as hell. If you like all talk and no action, you should love this. No drama, suspense, and definitely no action.
Have you read the books? Your statement makes it sound like you watched this without any knowledge of the Dune series at all.


After watching both th first mini-series and now the CoD mini-series, I now no longer wonder why so many hated the original.
...and yet you sat and watched it for 12 hours?

Wizdar 03-19-03 05:41 PM


Originally posted by Deckard-10
...and yet you sat and watched it for 12 hours?
Hell, that's less time than I invested in Taken. :lol:

Terrell 03-19-03 11:32 PM


Have you read the books? Your statement makes it sound like you watched this without any knowledge of the Dune series at all.
Nope! I had no knowledge of the books or the subject material.


...and yet you sat and watched it for 12 hours?
Well, I say I watched the original. I was on and off, but I watched most of it. I did watch all of CoD. It's called giving the mini-series a fair chance in the hopes it will get better. It did in the final hour, but by that time it was too late. Now, if I cut out after a few hours and tried to post my opinions, you would say I didn't give it a chance. Right?:) So, I gave it a chance so I'd have an informed opinion.

Those are mine. Different from your's I'm sure. But that's how I feel.

Ginwen 03-20-03 12:56 AM

I liked this one better than the first, although I found the first night a little dull.

I read the books not that long ago, and enjoyed seeing it brought to life.

I though Susan Sarandon was surprisingly bad, and Stilgar was pretty weak as well, but everyone else was pretty good.

Wizdar 03-20-03 07:51 AM

Well, I finally got to Part 3. If I were looking for a buncha action (I wasn’t), I would have been disappointed. But as it was, I can’t say it was all that much.

Great improvement in the music, though. ;)

Deckard-10 03-20-03 09:59 AM


Originally posted by Terrell
Those are mine. Different from your's I'm sure. But that's how I feel.
Well, at least you gave it a chance. That's more then I can say for a lot of people I know.


Originally posted by Wizdar
Great improvement in the music, though. ;)
-wink-

neiname 04-01-03 03:53 PM

I watched the first miniseries again yesterday and realized how much better Children of Dune is from a production standpoint. I really did like Children of Dune and hope they continue making them but I think God Emperor of Dune may be a bit tough ;) I guess I'll wait another 15 or so years till someone remakes Dune again.

Eric F 04-01-03 06:06 PM


but I think God Emperor of Dune may be a bit tough
They can just get Jabba the Hutt to do the whole film.

Wizdar 04-01-03 06:59 PM

But who's gonna decide if Leto shoots first?

Chew 04-02-03 06:26 AM


Originally posted by Wizdar
But who's gonna decide if Leto shoots first?
http://www.celebrityforever.com/ppic/g/george_lucas.jpg


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