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Haven't seen it yet. I will be taping it all this week... and hopefully I can watch the first episode this weekend.

Hmm, according to my Dish Network PVR (like a TiVo) - parts 1-5 are being played this week and re-run quite often, parts 6-10 are next week.

Since they're recorded and I can fast-forward through the commercials, it's not anywhere near 20 hours . . . I feel sorry for those who still use a VCR to record shows.

Started watching the first show and wasn't too impressed - - it just had a very "TV-movie" feel about it that I didn't like. I'll give it a couple more shots . . .

Wow.. I didn't realize Sci-Fi channel had generated such fierce geek ire! As someone who enjoys sci-fi, but doesn't/didn't watch Star Trek, Farscape or much series tv at all really, it took an unusually positive rave of a review in the Post for me to give Taken two hours of my evening. It's very good. So far I'd agree with that article's assessment that it's MUCH less pretentious than that tedious FOX show... and it's certainly the most intriguing sci-fi this viewer has seen in years. I'm settling in for the long stretch. I'll be taping 24 this week (now THERE's a show worthy of boycotting... from mediocre latter half of first season to just plain BAD second season)

Not sure about anyone else but I was not too impressed with last night's two hour episode. Not sure I am going to sit through the next nine parts....

Yeah, Sci-Fi likes to interupt their stream of seemingly endless commericals with movie snippets.

I'm TIVO-less, so any recording for me still relies on good ol' VHS, which would require a minimum of three tapes (if I used the crappy 6 hour mode - 10 if I went with 2 hour). Luckily, the absence of any quality television programming doesn't require that I use my VCR for anything other than timeshifting my BtVS viewing.

Now I'm curious to see the 1st episode -- considering most found it rather mediocore.

I think it's important to realize that it's 10 parts -- so the 1st part is more about establishing the universe and characters than it is about plot. I'd imagine it would get better.

Hi

Since I live in Canada, I wont be able to watch this miniseries so could anyone tape it on vhs or dvd ( without commercials if possible ) ? I would trade any of these dvds for copies of the entire series :

Ring 2 ( PAL Region 0 )
Bride Of Chucky
Night Of The Intruder ( Uncut, PAL Region 0 )
Hell Night
Shock
The House On Sorority Row
Bats
The Hole : Deluxe Edition
X-Files Fight The Future DTS


if you can help me out, email me : [email protected]

Thanks

I am not watching the show but am curious to know if the show is tanking in the ratings or not. Looked online and couldnt find any overnight ratings.
I hope it gets below Farscapes numbers and the station loses its shirt.

I dunno.. I like it so far and will probably watch it til the end. It's amazing to me that people are condemning this because Farscape was cancelled on the Sci Fi network. I watch FOX quite often, even though they cancelled some of my favorite shows (Undeclared, Dark Angel, Greg the Bunny).. I'm not condemning them forever. Life goes on. I guess some people like to really hold a grudge. I just don't really see how Sci Fi is registering your disgust for Farscape being cancelled by not watching Taken. Handwritten letters to the network might be more effective in your disproval.

Tried it. 'yawn'

It was nice to see Eric Close (of Dark Skies fame) back on the screen, but the script just draggggggged.

I have the first 2 episodes recorded so far, haven't watched yet. I did notice that SciFi is really pushing this show. I believe it was on from 7pm (rerun of the first episode) until 3am (2nd episode played 3 times back to back). Thats a lot of airtime they are devoting to this.

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth BenCJedi •<HR SIZE=1>It's amazing to me that people are condemning this because Farscape was cancelled on the Sci Fi network. I watch FOX quite often, even though they cancelled some of my favorite shows (Undeclared, Dark Angel, Greg the Bunny).. I'm not condemning them forever. Life goes on. I guess some people like to really hold a grudge. I just don't really see how Sci Fi is registering your disgust for Farscape being cancelled by not watching Taken. Handwritten letters to the network might be more effective in your disproval. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

Before condemning our actions, some quick research on what really happened and/or reading the posts in this thread will reveal why this is completely different. While boycotting the channel itself is a perfectly acceptable response to their actions to kill anything remotely science fiction in the past 3 years, <I>Taken</I> holds a special place as <I>Farscape</I> was cancelled in large part to divert funds to larger advertising of the miniseries and be able to air each episode 4 times in a row. They promised and commissioned a 5th season (which has been completely written and is part two of a promised two-season long arc), but once they secured the rights to <I>Taken</I>, they intentionally sabotaged the show's ratings, then lied about its impending cancellation, then backed out of their 5th season contract, and once caught issued a press release packed with more lies about both the show and its viewers.

ABC and FOX have cancelled more beloved shows in my lifetime than many people have even heard of, and I keep watching them too. There is no comparison.

Written letters politely requesting their highest rated show not be cancelled were met with hostile and threatening replies. Requests that they release the original 88 episodes to another network so someone else could pay for the 5th season were met with even further threats. Thanks for the suggestion.

das

P.S. SFC had been lying to its viewers for over 3 years now ... <I>Farscape</I> is just the proverbial straw that pushed us over the edge (yeah, I like mixing my metaphors).

And, in case you missed the first 4 airings of each episode, this week's 5 episodes will be shown again all day Saturday. And if you missed that, all day Sunday as well.

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Dvdsky •<HR SIZE=1>And, in case you missed the first 4 airings of each episode, this week's 5 episodes will be shown again all day Saturday. And if you missed that, all day Sunday as well. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

But what if I miss <I>those</I>? :)

I went searching to see if The Taken Network would reair the whole series after it was over and found this bit of programming on Satruday Dec 21.

3:00 PM MOVIE SO I MARRIED AN AXE MURDERER
5:00 PM MOVIE SERIAL MOM

Now <I>that</I>'s what I call Sci-Fi.

das

P.S. I answered my own question. If I miss the 4 nightly airings, the Saturday repeats, and the Sunday repeats, I can still catch all the episodes the following Saturday and Sunday. Whew! For a second there, I was scared.

rotfl


I hope they find time to re-air Braveheart too. I missed that the first time they showed it. Too much sci-fi, too little time. ;)

Wow. I wish Sci Fi had payed as much attention to Farscape as they are with Taken.
Someone was telling me about the show at work today. It sounds like X-files crossed with "V" and a few other things.
At least Farscape was original.

I wasn't a big Farscape fan and only caught a few episodes of it, but it was far from original. Seemed like it was basically Star Trek (or any other number of countless space-travel shows) with a smaller crew.

I couldn't disagree with you more. Farscape has many aspects of it that are quite original and refreshing. Rarely do you watch an episode and think "oh yeah, this is just like that episode of [x-files, startrek, battlestar galactica, whatever] where the same thing happened."

And (aside from the fact that it takes place in outer space), I really can't think of anything that would make it similar to any of the various Star Trek incarnations. In fact, I don't think the two shows could be much more dissimilar.

Well after clicking through 92 different pages of Taken propaganda I finally found the schedule for the 21st.

Un-friggin-believable.

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth Jeraden •<HR SIZE=1>I wasn't a big Farscape fan and only caught a few episodes of it, but it was far from original. Seemed like it was basically Star Trek (or any other number of countless space-travel shows) with a smaller crew. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

You may not have liked the show, which is perfectly fine, but you're really selling it short by claiming it wasn't original. It has almost nothing in common with <I>Star Trek</I> aside from it taking place in space (in which case you could claim that <B>2001</B> was basically <B>Plan 9 From Outer Space</B>) and even less in common with other space-travel shows. At its most basic premise, it's a crew of random escaped criminals who don't like each other, don't trust each other, and have stolen a ship from their captors, a ship that happens to be alive and doesn't really have to do a damn thing it doesn't want to. While that's a gross oversimplification of the concept, even at such a basic level, it bears little resemblance to any show I've seen. Add to that the fact that the plots are hardly your typical science fiction, introducing concepts untouched by even 35 years of <I>Star Trek</I>. On top of that, episodes would begin in the middle of a story and maybe even end in the middle of a story. It wasn't episodic television per se, yet it wasn't your standard arc story. It was just a 45-minute snapshot of some event in the lives of these characters. Sometimes you got a complete story from start to finish; othertimes, just a brief glimpse at a particular moment. From a completely animated episode, to an episode where each actor played a different character, to an episode where each actor played a different character in his own body, to an episode where each actor played multiple other characters in the same body at the same time, to an episode taking place entirely inside a computer game, these guys pushed the envelope, tried new things, and challenged the viewer to go where he had never been before.

Sure, you may not have liked the show, but it was nothing if not original.

das

How exactly does a cable network threaten a fan who asks that their favorite show not be cancelled?

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth DodgingCars •<HR SIZE=1>How exactly does a cable network threaten a fan who asks that their favorite show not be cancelled? <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

1) Threaten to never air the remaining 11 filmed episodes in the US.
2) Threaten to never release the original 88 episodes to a network that wants to pick up the 5th season.
3) Threaten to contact the ISPs of Save Farscape sites to have the sites shut down ... this did happen
4) Threaten to ban anyone from Sci-Fi IRC servers for discussing Farscape, even in the channel named #Farscape ... this also happened. An administrator went so far as to limit the channel to 88 people, clear mockery that "88 is the limit" of not only users but episodes.
5) Threats of lawsuits against those participating in Save Farscape campaigns.
6) Threats to cancel scheduled cast member chats ... this happened as well, except instead of cancelling the event, they waited until everyone got into the chat and then rebooted the server. When everyone returned, they rebooted the server again. Repeat until the guest has to leave. While this <I>could</I> be attributed to server overload, an IRCop admitted that he was the one doing this and threatened to continue doing it unless we ceased all discussions regarding "Farscape" in the #Farscape channel.

You want more?

When the show was first cancelled, two major campaigns (that later joined forces) were launched to try to save it. The #1 rule of both campaigns was to NEVER, under any circumstances, threaten to boycott the channel or its programming. Anyone writing a letter or making a phone call was instructed to be as polite and professional and <I>positive</I> as they could be, and despite the continued rude and hostile response, the campaign was unbelievably civil and friendly towards The Taken Network and went out of its way to remain that way. They even tried to work with The Taken Network to have the fans promote the final 11 episodes to air in 2003 and help raise ratings for all parties, and they were told to screw off.

We have received little but threats, hostility, and doubletalk on all fronts concerning this issue.

das

The 2nd show was much better than the 1st. I hope "They" are setting us up for some great shows they final 5 nights.

Looks like I am going to watch all ten nights.

Looks like this will be the highest rate show ever on the Sci-Fi channel:

http://tv.zap2it.com/news/tvnewsdaily.html?29226

<B>The first evening of Sci Fi's ten-night miniseries "Taken" shattered the channel's audience record, with a 4.9 household rating and over 6 million unique viewers. This installment of the alien abduction saga topped the previous audience record holder, "Frank Herbert's Dune, Part One," by 28 percent.

</B>

Don't flatter yourself, Hammer. There was nothing "creative" about what you've done. You could have called the thing, "Stephen Spielberg Presents 20 Hours of Dead Air" and it would have received a high rating. There's also nothing "risky" about it. We already knew USA got good ratings. You didn't need to convert the Sci-Fi Channel to another USA to prove that. Selling your soul to Satan is often a profitable venture in the short run ... in the long run, however, we all must pay the price for our actions.

Anyway, looks like they got what they wanted. They sold everything they had for this one rating. I hope it was worth it.

das

Sounds like a bunch of hooey to me. Not really threats.

A bunch of hooey? Not threats? Threats are just that but these were carried out.
Wish we could reboot Sci Fi indefinitely.

Hooey?

Hooey??

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Next...

Well, Sci-Fi didn't issue any death threats or anything (yet), if that is what you were looking for.

With the way you guys are acting, it sounded like they had!

I'm sorry, but all this just sounds like a bunch of fans who are bent out of shape that their favorite show was cancelled.

Loved the 3rd show, it just keep getting better and better.

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Originally posted by DodgingCars
With the way you guys are acting, it sounded like they had!
I'm sorry, but all this just sounds like a bunch of fans who are bent out of shape that their favorite show was cancelled.

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I admit it - i'm sometimes scattered when I post which means my point might not come across.
[In my defense, i'm more of a VOCAL person]

But, I can NOT for the life of me understand how you arrived at this conclusion by reading das' various posts?!?! :hscratch:

das, perhaps it's time for a "Explain It To Me Like I'm A Six Year Old: Sci-Fi, Lies, & Farscape" thread...?</center>

Thanks for the insult.

Look, I'm not going to get into a debate about how evil Sci-Fi Channel is. But from what I've read in this thread it just sounds like a bunch of fans upset about their show being canceled -- everything else is just internet rumors in my opinion, unless you want to give me a link to some actual news stories that show that Sci-Fi acted this way.

If so, then I'm wrong. If not, then I stand by my original statement.

(<b>Any chance that the impassioned people boycotting the broadcast of <i>TAKEN</i> can also boycott this thread ... so that the rest of us can stay on topic and discuss the show?</b>)


After three episodes, I'm not overwhelmed, but I am enjoying it. Several nice touches, and the acting is quite good. Hopefully our patience will be rewarded....

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Originally posted by DodgingCars
Thanks for the insult.

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No DC. Don't take it that way. I'm not insulting you. That's just one of my favourite lines from Philadelphia. I use it a lot in my personal life.

In fact http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=255594 .

Anyways...i'm sure das could validate most of these claims.

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth DodgingCars •<HR SIZE=1>If so, then I'm wrong. If not, then I stand by my original statement. <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

You are wrong. You can choose to believe me on this one or not. It's really not that important either way. All I can tell you is this: of the 6 things I listed, I personally witnessed firsthand and have proof (hard evidence, not speculation) of 4 of them, and I have seen the proof (scanned documents on official letterhead) of the other 2. There are two reasons the "news" (term used loosely) media hasn't covered these issues: 1) they don't care ... it's just a stupid TV show; 2) to avoid bad blood (since we didn't exactly have the upperhand), the fans made a soft agreement with SFC to not publicize the proof of these threats (which were posted quite prominently for a few days) - in exchange, SFC would stop issuing them.

As the campaign's goal was never to shut down SFC and was completely devoted to saving <I>Farscape</I>, dragging the channel through the mud and exposing all the crap they pulled wasn't going to do anyone any good, so we just dropped it in some futile attempt to show good will in the face of a remarkable lack of professionalism. It's clear that effort wasn't very successful, but what the hell ... we were trying to take the high road ... I guess it was the right thing to do. The funny thing is, what I posted isn't even the worst of it. But I shouldn't get into all that or I'll get myself in trouble.

If you choose to believe that people would get this angry over something so trivial had SFC not acted so horribly, then you're perfectly entitled to do that. Your skepticism, however, doesn't change what happened and who was there when it happened. In the end, all I can ever do is relay the events to others; whether they choose to accept it or not is outside of my control. Thankfully, I'm not alone, and those of us who have been through this ordeal are going to have some interesting stories to share when it's all said and done.

das

<BLOCKQUOTE> • Quoth marty888 •<HR SIZE=1>(<b>Any chance that the impassioned people boycotting the broadcast of <i>TAKEN</i> can also boycott this thread ... so that the rest of us can stay on topic and discuss the show?</b>)

After three episodes, I'm not overwhelmed, but I am enjoying it. Several nice touches, and the acting is quite good. Hopefully our patience will be rewarded.... <HR SIZE=1></BLOCKQUOTE>

:) This was the merged thread of discussions about Sci-Fi acquiring <I>Taken</I> and leading up to its broadcast. You can find discussion of the actual content in the other thread. Originally, I thought they were going to do a thread for each episode, but it appears that they're just talking about all of it in the one thread. Aside from a request that the thread title be changed to something less hostile (which a mod took care of) and a subsequent personal attack from another member, the thread is entirely about the content of the show.

I think it's OK to have one thread about the anger of SFC diverting funds from quality shows to advertise <I>Taken</I> and one thread to actually discuss <I>Taken</I>. I hope you find the discussion you're seeking in that thread.

das

Crawford's sons death was very surprising. This reminds me of Band of Brothers, anyone can and will die at any time.

<B>Question: One of the Towns People said one of the Alien treid to show off his powers at 16 years old. How can that be when the Father of the girl who gave birth to the twins said she got pregnant in 1958 (or 1959), which was 12 years before. Did anyone catch that statement also and record the show so they can listen to it again. I guess I can record the same show tonight before the new show starts.</B>

Most people dont know everything Sci Fi has done and how they have alienated people. If they want to live in their little bubble thats fine but you cant ignore the truth.
I had another friend ask me last night if I was watching it and I explained to him why I wasnt. He didnt know how Sci Fi was handling the show and was quite surprised and dissapointed.