Anyone else think Buffy is going down the drain?
 

I am sorry to say, this used to be my favorite show, but since its moved to UPN(dont know if it matters at all) but the show started going down the toilet. I didn;t find the season premiere, that entertaining, last season wasn;t that good, definetly the worst season, anyone else agree with me? For the other hand though smallville Frickin ROCKED!

Must be different writing team. It can affect the show...

Oh god. I see it's time to start avoiding the Buffy threads around here again.

I enjoyed this episode a lot (as well as most episodes last season) and I can't wait to see what they have in store for us in the coming weeks.

i thought tonight's Buffy was kick ass....

MATT

I thought so too, the ending really threw me for a loop. :)

I've thought Buffy has been going down the drain since season 3 ended.

Last year was the last straw. Maybe two episodes were good.

I'm not watching this year. My Buffy website's in my profile if anyone wants to hear more about my thoughts.

Loved it. Better than most of the eps last year. I am in for another season :)

Completely agree. Loved it, loved it, loved it. (but then again, I loved last season as well ;) )

~wis

I also enjoyed tonight's show. I look forward to the upcoming season.

I thought it was a great setup for the (possibly final) season. They really can't help but be better than last year but hopefully they'll approach the quality of season 2 or 3.

This was one of the better "set-up" episodes of any series that I've seen. I'm thinking that this will be the best season since season 4 (which I liked a lot), maybe since season 3.

Last season had some pretty weak episodes, but I've got a feeling that this year is going to rock!

going? it's been there a while already

I won't be switching off. Compared to the rest of the crap out there a mediocre episode of Buffy is still better.

My only concern for this season is that there is not too much time setting up Dawn and her new 'outsider' clique to take over for Buffy. I am not a Dawn fan, and it would just not interest me.

Comparitively speaking, Buffy is still one of the better shows on TV. Even last season, which was lackluster for Buffy, was a notch above other programs.

IMO, Buffy and The Sopranos are what good TV is all about.

While I have sentimental attachment to the Faith era :eyebrow: , I still enjoy BtVS a lot, and find it easily one of the most entertaining shows on television.

All indications are that this will be the final season, and if the season premiere was any indicator it should be pretty good one...

Make that 3 people who, without reserve, absolutely LOVED last season.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it was the BEST SEASON yet! Downbeat, a little lost, making poor choices -- it was the perfect "becoming an adult" season for one of these maturing teen angst shows.

Finally a season free from some cheap show-down with the "big bad."

But yeah, I typically avoid the "Buffy" threads on the television forum because they don't take dissension from the hive-mind group-think very well.

;)

Re: Anyone else think Buffy is going down the drain?
 

No

Aside from Dawn's whining, I really liked last season as well. IMO, every show needs a little dose of reality at some point before it goes back to basics.

No way is Buffy going down the drain.
Different does not equal bad.
The stories have always been top notch and that is what counts.

I liked the season premiere very much. I like the "new Sunnydale High" setting, liked the "Spike driven insane by getting his soul back" plot-line, like the "Buffy working at SDH" concept, and actually gasped out loud when Warren "morphed" into Glory. Oh, and Dawn? Maybe worth the prison time.

rotfl

Stop reading my mind :lol:

All good things must come to an end. The show may have run it's course.......

I think the season got off to a very good start.

1 year, 2 weeks and counting.

I thought last season, although not the best Buffy season, was still one of the best shows on TV. Most episodes were were quite good and several were excellent:

Normal Again (one of the 10 best ever IMO)
Tabula Rasa (funniest episode in a long time)
Bargaining (2 hr season premiere)
Gone
Dead Things

And everyone seems to forget that the best episode of Buffy ever was part of last season. "Once More With Feeling" was quite simply some of the best 68 mins of TV ever. (the original airing is still greenlighted on my 20hr TiVo) It alone makes Season 6 notable. Plus the episodes before and after related to the musical. The episode wouldn't be as good without them.

Re: Anyone else think Buffy is going down the drain?
 

uh...no.

Best to worst IMHO:

3 = Faith, the mayor, etc etc...
5 = Started off weak, but built perfectly to its climx
2 = A lot of great stuff, although a few filler episodes were cheesy
4 = Big bad was weak, but had some great ideas and moments
6 = Okay moments, but not focused
1 = Good main villain, but a lot of corny eps

rotfl

I seriously think I'm just a Buffy mark, because I love every season. I just enjoy the characters, and even when an episode is not as strong as previous ones, I feel there is always at least one or two real highlights per episode. Obviously not everyone agrees with me, but I have loved this show since it premiered.

spainlinx,
I agree with you completely. There have been very few episodes (maybe 2) that I thought were a complete waste of time. Even when an episode is just filler, I like to watch the characters interact. And I don't understand the bad rap that season 6 seems to have. For the most part I rather enjoyed it;) My wife was always laughing quite a bit at the trio;)

Plus the last few minutes of this past season 7 episode showed that there is still plenty of life left in Buffy.

Michael

Just my two cents worth....

Seasons 1-5 were pretty good in their own ways, and I would have a hard time picking a "best" season of those five.

However, last season, I thought Angel had better stories and a better arc than Buffy, although Buffy came back with a better season-ending episodes than Angel (Both were good). The only good episodes, IMHO, last season were the premiere, musical, the asylum/alternate reality, and the black Willow episodes. James Masters even had problems filming the Buffy rape scene.

So far this season, what I have seen is a return to the Buffy that we all used to love. Somehow, something is building up again, and I can't wait.

It's still regretable that Anthony Stewart Head will not return to the series permamently, but that's his choice.

yea i would agree, i loved the musical and that alternate reality episodes were brilliantly written. I have high expectations of this show and last season didn't cut it, i didn;t like the whole idea of willow turning evil, cause shes one of the crew and i didn;t think that fit, but i was kool in the episodes when she like wripped warren skin of and use her crazy magic, I am hoping that this season will be a good one, so far its pretty cool, Also good news is today i found out buffy season 3 comes to dvd in January, i know im a bit late, I know i started this thread but i still love the show, To me its going down the drain but i love it so much that its still a great show, one of the better ones on tv, just not my favorite anymore!

From what I have been reading, SMG is not returning to Buffy next season. The show is suppsoed to continue with that Trachtenberg(sp) character becoming the lead.

First Katie Holmes, now SMG...whats a guy to do? the hottest chick left on tv will be tina fey.

SPY

Again: the re-emphasis of the high school and the creation of the Scrappies was needed in order to get back to the "year one vibe"--which the producers & writers decided would be their theme for this year. It's certainly possible that SMG will decide to quit, and that Whedon & Co. will decide to continue the storyline as a spinoff--but neither is true as of now, and they've stated several times that that's not why things are playing out as they are in S7.