Knockin' On THE MOLE's Door (8/6 Series Finale & Recap)
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Knockin' On THE MOLE's Door (8/6 Series Finale & Recap)
Tonight's the night. We will finally know the answer that has been bugging us since the series was pulled in October, and then re-aired at the beginning of the Summer....
There will be no poll tonight. We'll be posting our reactions anyways. In addition, later on, I will be posting the recaps to the polls.
As for the thread title, someone mentioned that Anderson will be actually unlocking the doors. Still, I decided to do a play on "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", which is both a Bob Dylan song and the title to the Cowboy Bebop movie. Enjoy..... I'll see you guys after 10 PM PT.
Who is the mole?
There will be no poll tonight. We'll be posting our reactions anyways. In addition, later on, I will be posting the recaps to the polls.
As for the thread title, someone mentioned that Anderson will be actually unlocking the doors. Still, I decided to do a play on "Knockin' On Heaven's Door", which is both a Bob Dylan song and the title to the Cowboy Bebop movie. Enjoy..... I'll see you guys after 10 PM PT.
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Yay!
Surprisingly enough the actual Mole only got three votes as the Mole from the reunited players tonight. Was that the big surprise?
What a terrific episode. I couldn't wait to see all the players together again... last year's group was fun and this one was just as good. Definite improvement was how they introduced the winner and the Mole behind locked doors.
Terrific recap of the games, the sabatoges, the hidden clues (which we all basically managed to figure out), and how everyone played the game.
Now if only we can get a third season going.....
Spoiler:
What a terrific episode. I couldn't wait to see all the players together again... last year's group was fun and this one was just as good. Definite improvement was how they introduced the winner and the Mole behind locked doors.
Terrific recap of the games, the sabatoges, the hidden clues (which we all basically managed to figure out), and how everyone played the game.
Spoiler:
Now if only we can get a third season going.....
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Well I was right about the winner, but that damn Mole tricked me up.
And to AJW
I was disapointed that
but besides that I loved it.
C'mon ABC, Mole 3!!!!
And to AJW
Spoiler:
I was disapointed that
Spoiler:
C'mon ABC, Mole 3!!!!
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One difference in this year's recap is the Mole didn't go into the deatails of how the producers worked with the Mole on sabatoges, meetings, info on the other players, etc... I kinda liked the 'behind the scenes' that Kathryn covered in Mole 1.
So this episode was taped last fall? How on earth did the players keep this info to themselves? Aside from fear of not getting paid. Heh. Poor winner had to go broke for nearly a year! Ack.
So this episode was taped last fall? How on earth did the players keep this info to themselves? Aside from fear of not getting paid. Heh. Poor winner had to go broke for nearly a year! Ack.
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Originally posted by PacMan2006
Did anyone else think the challenges for The Mole 1 were a lot more interesting and complex than this year?
I think the original was better.
Did anyone else think the challenges for The Mole 1 were a lot more interesting and complex than this year?
I think the original was better.
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I'm glad Dorothy won. She was basically the only player to complete the entire game. Heather pretty much quite playing 3 or 4 weeks ago.
We all knew Bill was the Mole thanks to the geeks online who watched each episode frame-by-frame.
I was a little disappointed by some of the "clues" placed throughout the series. Bill's astrological sign illuminated in the sky? come on! (though I must be an idiot to have missed all those nautical clues)
One thing I don't understand after watching this episode. Why in the world would players split their votes? It's one thing to keep your answers open at the beginning of the game but Al split his votes and he was just eliminated a couple of weeks ago. They practically doubled their odds of being elliminated. I say pick one person and go with it.
We all knew Bill was the Mole thanks to the geeks online who watched each episode frame-by-frame.
I was a little disappointed by some of the "clues" placed throughout the series. Bill's astrological sign illuminated in the sky? come on! (though I must be an idiot to have missed all those nautical clues)
One thing I don't understand after watching this episode. Why in the world would players split their votes? It's one thing to keep your answers open at the beginning of the game but Al split his votes and he was just eliminated a couple of weeks ago. They practically doubled their odds of being elliminated. I say pick one person and go with it.
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Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
I might be in the minority here, but a few episodes back when they had that night mission with the ball being hit, Bill said he was used to seeing Anderson in his bathrobe, but since he was dressed up, he figured it was a competition. To me, that raised a red flag, as why would he see Anderson at night in the first place?
I might be in the minority here, but a few episodes back when they had that night mission with the ball being hit, Bill said he was used to seeing Anderson in his bathrobe, but since he was dressed up, he figured it was a competition. To me, that raised a red flag, as why would he see Anderson at night in the first place?
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Originally posted by Officer Cartman
Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
Spoiler:
I was irritated that it wasn't a two-hour finale. It could have been, who really needs an hour of "According to Jim" repeats? And ABC wonders why nobody watches them...
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Originally posted by Officer Cartman
Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
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Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
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Edit - I was slightly not quick enough.
Another edit - Funny, your question lay there for almost 40 minutes and then three people answered it within three minutes, I'm sure not aware of the others answering.
Last edited by movielib; 08-07-02 at 12:16 AM.
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Originally posted by Officer Cartman
Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
Ok, I overslept and missed the 1st half hour, I just tuned in when Anderson made the announcement of who won. What happened up until that part? Did Heather think Dorthy was the Mole, or did Dorthy just answer the questions faster?
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Well, it was fun being proven right. And, for Dorothy to be Heather by one questions..... wow......
Please, ABC, let there be a Mole III....
Please, ABC, let there be a Mole III....
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Recap: Episodes 1-4
So, now that the mole has been revealed, the winner finally is able to collect the check, and the last one got eliminated, it's time to compare the polling results from the weekly polls to the actual results.
Each group has a number by it. This is the number of votes by DVD Talk Members.
The group which the mole was part of will be bolded, and the player marked with the -M
The group which the winner was part of will be italicized, and the player marked with a -W
Everone else has a number by their name. This indicated which episode they got executed, or in one case, bribed.
Episode recaps are linked to Television Without Pity website. (Thanks Static Cling)
(5/28) What was The Mole's role during the leadership game?
The Leaders Team (6)-Bill-M, Darwin-9
The Crossbow-Biathlon Team (1)-Bob-1, Bribs-10, Rob-5
The Pulse-Ropewalk Team (2)-Heather-12, Lisa-3, Myra-6, Al-11
The Swing-For-Life Team (6)-Katie-8, Patrick-4, Dorothy-W, Elavia-7, Ali-2
Total votes: 15
EXEMPTION-1: Elavia-7: Failed to complete task
EXEMPTION-2: Dorothy-W, Lisa-2: Talked two players out of room
PENALTY: $1,000 each-Katie-8, Darwin-9 (Leaving room)
EXECUTED: Bob, Ali
Television Without Pity recap: (Episode 1) (Episode 2)
(6/4) Is the Mole "Smart" or "Dumb", and who did they face?
"Smart" Group & Little John (3)-Dorothy-W
"Smart" Group & Little Jane (2)-Rob-5, Bill-M
"Smart" Group & Neither (1)-Nobody
"Dumb" Group & Little John (1)-Katie-8, Patrick-4
"Dumb" Group & Little Jane (2)-Myra-6
"Dumb" Group & Neither (0)-Nobody
"Did Not Play" & Little John (1)-Nobody
"Did Not Play" & Little Jane (2)-Bribs-10, Heather-12, Elavia-7, Darwin-9, Lisa-3
"Did Not Play" & Neither (1)-Al-11
Total votes: 13
NOTE: The "Did Not Play" group actually was the group that was swinging on the Dam.
NEUTRALIZED-3: Dorothy-W
EXEMPTION-3: Al-11-Winning Little John/Jane, Katie-8-Given by Al
EXEMPTION-4: Dorothy-W (2nd), Rob-5, Bill-M-Got all 5 question right in smart/dumb game
EXEMPTION-4 (lost): Katie-8, Patrick-4, Myra-Failed to completely stump smart players
PENALTY: $5,000-Patrick-4 (Ripped pages out of diary)
EXECUTED: Lisa-3, Patrick-4
Television Without Pity recap: (Episode 3) (Episode 4)
Each group has a number by it. This is the number of votes by DVD Talk Members.
The group which the mole was part of will be bolded, and the player marked with the -M
The group which the winner was part of will be italicized, and the player marked with a -W
Everone else has a number by their name. This indicated which episode they got executed, or in one case, bribed.
Episode recaps are linked to Television Without Pity website. (Thanks Static Cling)
(5/28) What was The Mole's role during the leadership game?
The Leaders Team (6)-Bill-M, Darwin-9
The Crossbow-Biathlon Team (1)-Bob-1, Bribs-10, Rob-5
The Pulse-Ropewalk Team (2)-Heather-12, Lisa-3, Myra-6, Al-11
The Swing-For-Life Team (6)-Katie-8, Patrick-4, Dorothy-W, Elavia-7, Ali-2
Total votes: 15
EXEMPTION-1: Elavia-7: Failed to complete task
EXEMPTION-2: Dorothy-W, Lisa-2: Talked two players out of room
PENALTY: $1,000 each-Katie-8, Darwin-9 (Leaving room)
EXECUTED: Bob, Ali
Television Without Pity recap: (Episode 1) (Episode 2)
(6/4) Is the Mole "Smart" or "Dumb", and who did they face?
"Smart" Group & Little John (3)-Dorothy-W
"Smart" Group & Little Jane (2)-Rob-5, Bill-M
"Smart" Group & Neither (1)-Nobody
"Dumb" Group & Little John (1)-Katie-8, Patrick-4
"Dumb" Group & Little Jane (2)-Myra-6
"Dumb" Group & Neither (0)-Nobody
"Did Not Play" & Little John (1)-Nobody
"Did Not Play" & Little Jane (2)-Bribs-10, Heather-12, Elavia-7, Darwin-9, Lisa-3
"Did Not Play" & Neither (1)-Al-11
Total votes: 13
NOTE: The "Did Not Play" group actually was the group that was swinging on the Dam.
NEUTRALIZED-3: Dorothy-W
EXEMPTION-3: Al-11-Winning Little John/Jane, Katie-8-Given by Al
EXEMPTION-4: Dorothy-W (2nd), Rob-5, Bill-M-Got all 5 question right in smart/dumb game
EXEMPTION-4 (lost): Katie-8, Patrick-4, Myra-Failed to completely stump smart players
PENALTY: $5,000-Patrick-4 (Ripped pages out of diary)
EXECUTED: Lisa-3, Patrick-4
Television Without Pity recap: (Episode 3) (Episode 4)
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Recap: Episodes 5-8
(6/11) What did the Mole do in tonights episode?
Treaded Water (10)-Bill-M, Bribs-10, Darwin-9
Talked (4)-Katie-8
Got locked in a cell (3)-Al-11, Heather-12, Myra-6
Ran around town (9)-Rob-5, Dorothy-W, Elavia-7
Total Votes: 26
EXEMPTION: Heather-12 (Declined)-had to leave Al and Myra in cells
EXECUTED: Rob
Television Without Pity recap
(6/18) What group was the mole in during the Pizza/Mountain Bike Game?
Pizza (7)-Myra-6, Bill-M, Katie-8
New Bike (7)-Darwin-9, Elavia-7, Dorothy-W
Old Bike (1)-Bribs-10, Heather-12, Al-11
Total votes: 15
EXEMPTION: Elavia-7 (2nd)-least liked player, offerred $15,000
PENALTY: $10,000 combined-Heather-12 (Touched Bicycle), Darwin-9 (2nd), Bill-M (Contraband Ice Cream)
EXECUTED: Myra
Television Without Pity recap
(6/25) What role did the mole play in Gnome Home/Gladiator game?
Raced First (0)- Heather-12
Raced Second (10)- Bill-M
Raced Third (1)- Elavia-7
Caesar (2)- Dorothy-W
A Guard Who Stood (5)- Katie-8, Darwin-9, Bribs-10
A Guard Who Died (1)- Al-11
Total: 19 votes
EXEMPTION: Bill-M (2nd) - Broke the Gnome
EXEMPTION (lost): Bribs-10 - Wore Brutus helmet, had to slay other players and Caesar
EXECUTED: Elavia (took $50,000 bribe and left the game)
Television Without Pity recap
(7/2)In the town square, the mole was...
reunited with their loved one. (18)- Bribs-10, Bill-M, Darwin-9, Heather-12
not reunited with their loved one. (2)- Katie-8, Dorothy-W, Al-11
Total votes: 20
EXECUTED: Katie
Television without Pity recap
Treaded Water (10)-Bill-M, Bribs-10, Darwin-9
Talked (4)-Katie-8
Got locked in a cell (3)-Al-11, Heather-12, Myra-6
Ran around town (9)-Rob-5, Dorothy-W, Elavia-7
Total Votes: 26
EXEMPTION: Heather-12 (Declined)-had to leave Al and Myra in cells
EXECUTED: Rob
Television Without Pity recap
(6/18) What group was the mole in during the Pizza/Mountain Bike Game?
Pizza (7)-Myra-6, Bill-M, Katie-8
New Bike (7)-Darwin-9, Elavia-7, Dorothy-W
Old Bike (1)-Bribs-10, Heather-12, Al-11
Total votes: 15
EXEMPTION: Elavia-7 (2nd)-least liked player, offerred $15,000
PENALTY: $10,000 combined-Heather-12 (Touched Bicycle), Darwin-9 (2nd), Bill-M (Contraband Ice Cream)
EXECUTED: Myra
Television Without Pity recap
(6/25) What role did the mole play in Gnome Home/Gladiator game?
Raced First (0)- Heather-12
Raced Second (10)- Bill-M
Raced Third (1)- Elavia-7
Caesar (2)- Dorothy-W
A Guard Who Stood (5)- Katie-8, Darwin-9, Bribs-10
A Guard Who Died (1)- Al-11
Total: 19 votes
EXEMPTION: Bill-M (2nd) - Broke the Gnome
EXEMPTION (lost): Bribs-10 - Wore Brutus helmet, had to slay other players and Caesar
EXECUTED: Elavia (took $50,000 bribe and left the game)
Television Without Pity recap
(7/2)In the town square, the mole was...
reunited with their loved one. (18)- Bribs-10, Bill-M, Darwin-9, Heather-12
not reunited with their loved one. (2)- Katie-8, Dorothy-W, Al-11
Total votes: 20
EXECUTED: Katie
Television without Pity recap
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Recap: Episodes 9-13
(7/9) What role did the mole play in tonights game?
Dismantle A Car (18)- Darwin-9, Bill-M, Bribs-10, Dorothy-W
Stomp Grapes (7)- Heather-12, Al-11
Total votes: 25
NEUTRALIZED: Dorothy-W (secret sticker placed by Bill)
EXECUTED: Darwin
Television Without Pity recap
(7/16) What roles did the mole play today?
Buyer & Evader (3)- Heather-12
Buyer & Tracker (2)- Noone
Buyer & Lookout (2)- Dorothy-W
Buyer & Tracker and Lookout (0)- Noone
Seller & Evader (0)- Noone
Seller & Tracker (1)- Noone
Seller & Lookout (18)- Bill-M
Seller & Tracker and Lookout (2)- Al-11, Bribs-10
Total votes: 28
EXEMPTION: Al (2nd)
EXECUTED: Bribs
Television Without Pity recap
(7/23) Who the heck is The Mole, anyway?
Bill (26)-M
Dorothy (2)-W
Heather (6)-12
Total votes: 34
EXECUTED: Al
Television Without Pity recap
(7/30)Regis, my final answer is...
Bill is the mole, and Heather wins. (10)
Bill is the mole, and Dorothy wins. (17)
Dorothy is the mole, and Bill wins. (3)
Dorothy is the mole, and Heather wins. (2)
Heather is the mole, and Bill wins. (5)
Heather is the mole, and Dorothy wins. (1)
TO BE CONTINUED.
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(8/6)No poll posted.
In the order that the players were executed, they were asked to guess who is the winner and who is the mole.
Bob (WM): Dorothy is the winner, Bill is the mole.
Ali (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Lisa: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Patrick: Bill is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Rob (WM): Dorothy is the winner, Bill is the mole.
Myra: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Elavia (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Katie (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Darwin: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Bribs (M): Heather is the winner, Elavia is the mole , no it's Bill.
Al: Bill is the winner, Heather is the mole.
EXECUTED: Heather
WINNER: Dorothy
MOLE: Bill
Television Without Pity recap
Dismantle A Car (18)- Darwin-9, Bill-M, Bribs-10, Dorothy-W
Stomp Grapes (7)- Heather-12, Al-11
Total votes: 25
NEUTRALIZED: Dorothy-W (secret sticker placed by Bill)
EXECUTED: Darwin
Television Without Pity recap
(7/16) What roles did the mole play today?
Buyer & Evader (3)- Heather-12
Buyer & Tracker (2)- Noone
Buyer & Lookout (2)- Dorothy-W
Buyer & Tracker and Lookout (0)- Noone
Seller & Evader (0)- Noone
Seller & Tracker (1)- Noone
Seller & Lookout (18)- Bill-M
Seller & Tracker and Lookout (2)- Al-11, Bribs-10
Total votes: 28
EXEMPTION: Al (2nd)
EXECUTED: Bribs
Television Without Pity recap
(7/23) Who the heck is The Mole, anyway?
Bill (26)-M
Dorothy (2)-W
Heather (6)-12
Total votes: 34
EXECUTED: Al
Television Without Pity recap
(7/30)Regis, my final answer is...
Bill is the mole, and Heather wins. (10)
Bill is the mole, and Dorothy wins. (17)
Dorothy is the mole, and Bill wins. (3)
Dorothy is the mole, and Heather wins. (2)
Heather is the mole, and Bill wins. (5)
Heather is the mole, and Dorothy wins. (1)
TO BE CONTINUED.
Television Without Pity recap
(8/6)No poll posted.
In the order that the players were executed, they were asked to guess who is the winner and who is the mole.
Bob (WM): Dorothy is the winner, Bill is the mole.
Ali (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Lisa: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Patrick: Bill is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Rob (WM): Dorothy is the winner, Bill is the mole.
Myra: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Elavia (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Katie (W): Dorothy is the winner, Heather is the mole.
Darwin: Heather is the winner, Dorothy is the mole.
Bribs (M): Heather is the winner, Elavia is the mole , no it's Bill.
Al: Bill is the winner, Heather is the mole.
EXECUTED: Heather
WINNER: Dorothy
MOLE: Bill
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Last edited by Mark Holtz; 08-10-02 at 05:54 PM.
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Well, lets see... I had Bill as a secondary mole candidate (behind Darwin) from the pool game, and he was my first choice since the dollar $Bill$ clue (which no one else mentioned around here but me). I never really suspected Dorothy or Heather at all. When it got to the end, I thought Dorothy would win. I was right. So, theres a certain double edged sword, a smug satisfaction combined with absolutely no shock and surprise (which I would actually prefer).
It was a pretty good game, but I never saw the first one. Still find Mole a little low rent and not as tense when compared to Amazing Race. Nice to see how utterly clueless the people involved were, though somehow I cant help but think it (the evicted final mole suspicions) may have been ‘tweeked’ for drama sake... except for Al, he cant act and was genuinely surprised it was Bill. But they were pretty split with the majority choosing Dorothy or Heather as the Mole and Bill being the least likely.
Anyway, depending on the night they choose to air a Mole 3, I’d watch it. Bring it on.
It was a pretty good game, but I never saw the first one. Still find Mole a little low rent and not as tense when compared to Amazing Race. Nice to see how utterly clueless the people involved were, though somehow I cant help but think it (the evicted final mole suspicions) may have been ‘tweeked’ for drama sake... except for Al, he cant act and was genuinely surprised it was Bill. But they were pretty split with the majority choosing Dorothy or Heather as the Mole and Bill being the least likely.
Anyway, depending on the night they choose to air a Mole 3, I’d watch it. Bring it on.
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Al was my favorite player, even tho I picked him as the mole. LOL
Best Line was Al shouting "You bastard!"
Props to Trugator for saying Bill from the beginning and talking smack with me.
Great episode
Best Line was Al shouting "You bastard!"
Props to Trugator for saying Bill from the beginning and talking smack with me.
Great episode
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Here's an article about Mole 3:
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ent...+seems+li kely
This article was written June 25th, though.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ent...+seems+li kely
This article was written June 25th, though.
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That's really comforting, especially since Anderson would be back. If ABC knew what they were doing, they would renew it. I would imagine that if it does return, it could be a midseason replacement.
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wow, i had i backwards. i thought dorothy was the mole and bill would win. some of those clues were stupid, and some of them were really ingenious. hopefully we'll have season 3 of the mole. definately a good show to have during the summer when all the reruns are on.
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Here's hoping for a Mole 3.....I actually had it right this time. I was way off in the Mole 1... Thank you Bill I'm actually glad that the clues were not very easy to find. I would have been upset if they were super obvious. Great Season