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Venusian 06-02-02 04:29 PM

Star Trek question
 
whats the deal with shape shifters?


Odo was a shape shifter and the people studied him cuz he was unique.


then there was a shape shifter in star trek 6 which was before ds9 in our time and startrek time.


now, i'm watching tng and there is a shape shifter on here and they dont know what she is. the doctor makes a mention of a record of a type of shape shifter in the archives or something.

so how is it there are all these shapeshifters and noone knows what they are.

das Monkey 06-02-02 04:49 PM

I'm not sure what you're asking.

Odo was studied on Bajor by Dr. Mora Pol. As Odo was a shapeless mass of organic goo at the time, it's pretty likely Dr. Mora found him to be unique.

I don't see how Martia from Rura Penthe or Anya from 'The Dauphin' relate to Odo's uniqueness in the Alpha Quadrant, particularly from the perspective of a Bajoran scientist (not a member of the Federation).

das

Venusian 06-02-02 04:51 PM

well it just seems like everytime they see a shapeshifter they are fascinated and dont know what it is.

kirk could identify martia pretty quickly (if i remember correctly), but noone on enterprise except the doctor seemed to know what anya was

Venusian 06-02-02 04:52 PM

also, did you actually know all those names or did you have to look em up?

das Monkey 06-02-02 04:59 PM


Originally posted by Venusian
well it just seems like everytime they see a shapeshifter they are fascinated and dont know what it is.

kirk could identify martia pretty quickly (if i remember correctly), but noone on enterprise except the doctor seemed to know what anya was

Kirk was so close to retirement after the Khitomer incident that perhaps he didn't file an official report.

As for how he identified her, it went something like this:

McCoy: How in Floyd's Barber Shop did you do that?
Martia: I'm a chameloid.
McCoy: What? I'm a doctor, not a dictionary.
Kirk: A shapeshifter. I've heard of you.

Anyway, he had heard of them in his travels but never actually seen one until she identified her self as a chameloid. I think it's unlikely that every officer in Star Fleet is acquainted with every alien in existance, especially some dead shapeshifter Kirk once met in prison. In any case, I'm sure shapeshifters are like telepaths; they're not all from the same species.

das

das Monkey 06-02-02 05:04 PM


Originally posted by Venusian
also, did you actually know all those names or did you have to look em up?
Haha ... I'd like to tell you I looked them up, but well ... this is <I>Star Trek</I>. You need to know this stuff. In truth, though, aside from Wesley's ho, those are all fairly well-known characters.

das

mikehunt 06-02-02 07:18 PM

I think the other shapeshifters had to stay basically humannoid, while odo could literally turn into any shape

Venusian 06-02-02 09:57 PM

okay, just watched enterprise and they had telepathic shapeshifters. it seems like there are a lot of shape shifting species out there

Venusian 06-02-02 09:58 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey


Haha ... I'd like to tell you I looked them up, but well ... this is <I>Star Trek</I>. You need to know this stuff. In truth, though, aside from Wesley's ho, those are all fairly well-known characters.

das

that is both impressive and sad. although i said something to a friend of mine and he identified the episode by title right away as well.

das Monkey 06-02-02 10:18 PM


Originally posted by Venusian
that is both impressive and sad. although i said something to a friend of mine and he identified the episode by title right away as well.
Having a good memory is neither impressive nor sad. It just is what it is. I remember what I see after watching something on television. Other people remember crazy baseball statistics. It's only sad if you sit around memorizing these things.

das


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