24 5/7/02
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24 5/7/02
post predictions, comments, questions, ect about tonights episode. Use spoilers when giving any plot points.
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Another good show. Lady Macbeth really came into her own this episode; was she seriously suggesting what I think she was suggesting? If she was, WHY?! Dennis Hopper is cool, he just shoots everybody! His accent is growing on me now.
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Well.. it will finally happen..
Other than that, I don't understand what motivation Sherry has for inducing her husband to cheat.. maybe to hold against him to keep him in office? Dunno... Another great episode, can't believe there are only 2 left.
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Other than that, I don't understand what motivation Sherry has for inducing her husband to cheat.. maybe to hold against him to keep him in office? Dunno... Another great episode, can't believe there are only 2 left.
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Other than that, I don't understand what motivation Sherry has for inducing her husband to cheat.. maybe to hold against him to keep him in office? Dunno... Another great episode, can't believe there are only 2 left.
Gee with everything that has gone on in real life politics, one would think a male politician would make sure they were never alone with a femaile that wasn't his wife. Guess not.
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Didn't care much for this episode. I am looking forward to the season finale in a couple weeks though. Rumor has it that 3 endings were filmed and no one knows which one will be used.

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Well... she's clearly plotting something and not merely interested in his need for 'entertainment.' I agree, she's the only interesting element left. It's as if I'd be better off watching Dynasty reruns.
anyways... it's been fairly anti-climactic for me. The last good episode imo was the literal car-over-the-cliffhanger. I think they dropped the ball plotwise with the sudden relevance of the war-crime mission and character motivation in general became fuzzy at that point. Hopper is terrible and should be embarassed among the otherwise truly top-notch ensemble.
I feel like a sucker compelled to watch til the end because I've gone this far, even though I don't really care anymore about the characters (I especially want Kim to at least break a nail or something). The networks most cherished type of viewer I suppose. It had so many brilliant moments early on, and the cast deserves more... but it's no wonder it got cancelled.
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anyways... it's been fairly anti-climactic for me. The last good episode imo was the literal car-over-the-cliffhanger. I think they dropped the ball plotwise with the sudden relevance of the war-crime mission and character motivation in general became fuzzy at that point. Hopper is terrible and should be embarassed among the otherwise truly top-notch ensemble.
I feel like a sucker compelled to watch til the end because I've gone this far, even though I don't really care anymore about the characters (I especially want Kim to at least break a nail or something). The networks most cherished type of viewer I suppose. It had so many brilliant moments early on, and the cast deserves more... but it's no wonder it got cancelled.
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They LIED! Those B*stards. Just goes to show that you can't trust what you read in TV Guide.
And to think of the mini drama on the other thread over potential spoilage...
And to think of the mini drama on the other thread over potential spoilage...

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Lady MacPalmer is one evil woman. Getting Patty to come on to Palmer is just sleazy. Seems like she's trying to get the upper hand on Palmer by entrapping him in a moment of weakness/infidelity so she can ride roughshod over him once they are in the White House. Marital Blackmail is thy middle name.
Obviously there is a big ol' mole in CTU for them to acquire Kim so easily at the end of last episode and beginning of this episode. Who can the mole be? It would really suck if it turned out to be Tony, but I really don't know who else it could be (Nina just doesn't make sense, and Mason is too obvious, so he's out).
Hee hee hee, they should have laced Alexis's blood with some radioactive isotope like they did on Alias with Sark to track him, rather than plant the bug on him hospital wrist band (better yet, stick the bug up his butt - now that would have been a comical revelation).
Victor is one ol' meanie, killing that attractive daughter just to put Jack's insurrection down. How do you deal with creeps like Victor? You put them down like the inhuman creatures they are. Can't wait for that to happen.
Palmer is still in danger, I see Victor trying to get off one more shot on Palmer before he leaves the country (how he thinks he's getting on a plane, I have no idea).
Poor Terri, you'd think she was a mushroom with the way CTU tries keeping her in the dark.
Obviously there is a big ol' mole in CTU for them to acquire Kim so easily at the end of last episode and beginning of this episode. Who can the mole be? It would really suck if it turned out to be Tony, but I really don't know who else it could be (Nina just doesn't make sense, and Mason is too obvious, so he's out).
Hee hee hee, they should have laced Alexis's blood with some radioactive isotope like they did on Alias with Sark to track him, rather than plant the bug on him hospital wrist band (better yet, stick the bug up his butt - now that would have been a comical revelation).
Victor is one ol' meanie, killing that attractive daughter just to put Jack's insurrection down. How do you deal with creeps like Victor? You put them down like the inhuman creatures they are. Can't wait for that to happen.
Palmer is still in danger, I see Victor trying to get off one more shot on Palmer before he leaves the country (how he thinks he's getting on a plane, I have no idea).
Poor Terri, you'd think she was a mushroom with the way CTU tries keeping her in the dark.
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Originally posted by Duckie
Well... she's clearly plotting something and not merely interested in his need for 'entertainment.' I agree, she's the only interesting element left.
Well... she's clearly plotting something and not merely interested in his need for 'entertainment.' I agree, she's the only interesting element left.
What WAS that discussion Palmer had with Mason? I can promise you you'll skip 5 years of middle management if you tak this risk... um, you need to get elected first buddy. That was lame.
anyways... it's been fairly anti-climactic for me. The last good episode imo was the literal car-over-the-cliffhanger. I think they dropped the ball plotwise with the sudden relevance of the war-crime mission and character motivation in general became fuzzy at that point.
Hopper is terrible and should be embarassed among the otherwise truly top-notch ensemble.
I feel like a sucker compelled to watch til the end because I've gone this far, even though I don't really care anymore about the characters (I especially want Kim to at least break a nail or something). The networks most cherished type of viewer I suppose. It had so many brilliant moments early on, and the cast deserves more...
Hey - I guess I'm a true FOX sucker this season as I'll continue to hold out hope for the last two episodes of this show and WILL watch - just as I'm doing with The X-Files. BUT, I'm telling you it doesn't look good for either of them in the redemption department.

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Watched it with some friends, and we had a good laugh. Not much to say that hasn't already been said. I like how Terri has free reign of CTU to bother everyone. It was a great moment when Mason told her to f off.
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Xander Berkeley is a god among men. Did you catch the sidelong glance he gave one of the Alexis-recoverers? I still don't think he's the mole.
Show was bad. The introduction of CTU Dana was nonsense-- where was she for the past 21 hours, doing her hair?
And can we play the "Exactly what accent does Dennis Hopper have" game? I'm going with "Hybrid of Boris and Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle, but with a speech impediment".
Show was bad. The introduction of CTU Dana was nonsense-- where was she for the past 21 hours, doing her hair?
And can we play the "Exactly what accent does Dennis Hopper have" game? I'm going with "Hybrid of Boris and Natasha from Rocky and Bullwinkle, but with a speech impediment".
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Originally posted by PacMan2006
It didn't get cancelled. Supposedly, there's a "90%" chance it'll return next season.
It didn't get cancelled. Supposedly, there's a "90%" chance it'll return next season.
WRT who's the mole in CTU game, I still think it's Mason. So far everything he's done has really benefitted the terrorists more than anyone else. His hands seem to be conviently "tied" at times. Of course that might be the obvious choice and therefore wrong

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All you people bad mouthing the show, why the hell do you even watch then? Personally I think the show's been great from day one.
All you people bad mouthing the show, why the hell do you even watch then? Personally I think the show's been great from day one.
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The actress playing Dana was formerly on "Pasadena" as the secretary doing the one of the son of the newspaper owner. I hope doesn't turn out to be the mole either, though she's easy on the eyes.
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I do not expect her to live til the end. Palmer's financial backers can bump her off and guarantee him the sympathy vote come election time and get him in the White House.
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Have any of you surfed around Fox's 24 website? ( http://www.fox.com/24/ ) I saw a lot of references to chess, especially in Kimberly's section; these reference this site: http://www.princeton.edu/%7Ejedwards/cif/chess.html , which has the strategy
So, who would be the pawn at this point in the story?
Five Steps to Victory
1. Identify the weakness
2. Fix the weakness
3. Attack the weakness with your pieces
4. Your opponent will be forced to defend the weakness
5. Then, AND ONLY THEN, attack the weakness with a pawn
1. Identify the weakness
2. Fix the weakness
3. Attack the weakness with your pieces
4. Your opponent will be forced to defend the weakness
5. Then, AND ONLY THEN, attack the weakness with a pawn
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Originally posted by das Monkey
No offense, but this mentality annoys me. If the show sucked all the time, I wouldn't watch. If the show returns for another season, I probably won't watch. But I'm not going to ditch a show just because it has a few stupid episodes. It started average, got real good, then slowly got stupid after they renewed it for the full season. I'm not going to stop watching just because of those one or two bad episodes. Actually, right now, it's more like five or six bad episodes, but I've invested 22 hours of my life watching this show. I may as well see how it ends. And I'm not going to silence my opinion just because it happens to be negative. Positive praise is meaningless without criticism.
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No offense, but this mentality annoys me. If the show sucked all the time, I wouldn't watch. If the show returns for another season, I probably won't watch. But I'm not going to ditch a show just because it has a few stupid episodes. It started average, got real good, then slowly got stupid after they renewed it for the full season. I'm not going to stop watching just because of those one or two bad episodes. Actually, right now, it's more like five or six bad episodes, but I've invested 22 hours of my life watching this show. I may as well see how it ends. And I'm not going to silence my opinion just because it happens to be negative. Positive praise is meaningless without criticism.
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Dang. Who is the mole? Everytime I think I know, I remember a reason why it can't be them. Nina can't because she has done to many things that would fly in the face of her being a villain. And Tony--He shot Drazen's brother 2 weeks ago.
It could be Milo, but my bet is on that Chapelle a**hole. And Mason--I hated this guy a month ago, and now I think he is hilarious. Is that him as the villain in Shanghai Noon?
I like how they clearly made Hopper a monster--though they did borrow that scene right out of Usual Suspects.
My bet is that the producers and writers didn't know who the villain was going to be either, until the night before they shot the episode.
It could be Milo, but my bet is on that Chapelle a**hole. And Mason--I hated this guy a month ago, and now I think he is hilarious. Is that him as the villain in Shanghai Noon?
I like how they clearly made Hopper a monster--though they did borrow that scene right out of Usual Suspects.
My bet is that the producers and writers didn't know who the villain was going to be either, until the night before they shot the episode.
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Dang. Who is the mole? Everytime I think I know, I remember a reason why it can't be them. Nina can't because she has done to many things that would fly in the face of her being a villain.
Dang. Who is the mole? Everytime I think I know, I remember a reason why it can't be them. Nina can't because she has done to many things that would fly in the face of her being a villain.
And Tony--He shot Drazen's brother 2 weeks ago.
It could be Milo
but my bet is on that Chapelle a**hole. And Mason--I hated this guy a month ago, and now I think he is hilarious.
The FOX promo for next week (which I only overheard from another room) was:
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My bet is that the producers and writers didn't know who the villain was going to be either, until the night before they shot the episode.

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Originally posted by PacMan2006
For any fans of the show, Kiefer Sutherland/Jack Bauer will be on Jay Leno's 'Tonight Show' (May, 9th, 2002).
For any fans of the show, Kiefer Sutherland/Jack Bauer will be on Jay Leno's 'Tonight Show' (May, 9th, 2002).
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