Survivor 3/28/02
 

OMG!

Maraamu finally wins a reward challenge! They get to raid Rotu's camp for, I guess, anything they can carry back to their own camp.

gabriel has to be voted off as soon as possible.

if i have to hear him "rap" again ... :mad:

And the plot thickens...

Maraamu wins the immunity challenge - the SOS challenge - it definitely helped them when they raided Rotu's stuff. Anyhow, the leading contender to get he boot tonight is Gabe, who stupidly played the situation, IMHO. John has engineered the fracturing of his own old tribe, and the BAS are just hanging back letting the carnage begin...


BTW, BAS = Barquerlounger All-Stars (aka Rob, Sean, Vecepia)

Good grief!

I don't know how the BAS has managed to turn it around. It has to go to Gabe's silly non-commital to John, and just horrible political play, and that's what did him in. What a doofus.

Gabe got a unanimous boot (well, we didn't get to see Zoe's vote)!

My take on why the vote went the way it did:

Rob's playing it cool, he just needed Rotu to vote off any of the old Rotu off to get the numbers closer to his side, and he accomplished that by letting John think he's running the show. Rob didn't want a 4-4 vote and hoping that Gabe would win a tie-breaker, (if Gabe loses, John definitely targets Rob and Sean). So by getting Gabe off (who didn't want any part of an alliance, it seemed), Rob was still able to whittle down the numerical advantage by letting John do all the "heavy lifting" and the BAS just sat back and let old Rotu cannibalize themselves.

BAS played it as well as possible given their odds. Awesome!

I loved the previews: Rob to John: "Do I looked like I got "stupid" written all over my face?"

Oh well... Gabe's gone. I liked the guy a lot, so I am actually sorry to see him go.



For a moment. at the TC, I thought that I got it all wrong and that John might go after a tiebreak with Gabe, with Gabe going out in the next episode (although that wouldn't have been too smart a move anyway) as I didn't see Sean casting his vote for Gabe...







The trick here is, to make things clearer, in the TC of the first episode. Watch closely when Rob approaches the TC voting booth. He is clearly wearing his golden bandana around the arm. Then the camera switches to his hand as he writes down the vote and surprise: he wears a blue bandana!!! Furthermore, 10 seconds later Sean walks to cast his vote. He has his hat hanging around his neck and you can clearly see the white string on his neck. Switch to a camera from behind as he starts writing the vote and he is not wearing the same clothes (easy to notice that hat string is not there, but also he is wearing his orange tshirt instead of the read one). And then he starts writing the vote with a large curved motion that can only be the beginning of a C or G (not the S that he actually voted that night). That's why the swap was easy to predict by some, although not in all its details, as well as tonight's vote being no big surprise.







Now back to strategy... I agree with Patman about the way they reasoned. I guess they never got to convince Gabe to vote with them (did he vote for Rob? I didn't catch it and I don't have the recording yet) so that was the only thing to do.



I'm not sure, though how they can get more advantage from this. One possible way would be if Rotu wins next time and the 3 Rotus stay together, voting _what's her name_ out. Upon the merge, although they know that Sean/Rob are not the best persons to hang with, they may join with them to break John's power alliance. Zoe doesn't seem like too convinced about that alliance anyway, while Tammy would do absolutely anything to get her further.







Tammy looks like the best player to me right now, but my favourite character is by far the RobFather. When he'll get eliminated the show will become plain boring given the characters that are still in the game. Each ep. Rob's remarks are funnier than all the other's put together and although I find it quite impossible I am still hoping he's going to pull a Will on this game... :)





.--edited to emphasize the 1st ep. spoiler for those that didn't know about it.

What an interestin development. I didn't see this coming at all. Next week looks to be good, too. John's taking charge, huh? Let's see how well that goes over.

spoilers....








WTF just happened ?

I thought Gabe would be in the final 4 !

What an idiot he is. All he had to do is say I'm voting with you guys and getting rid of the 3 new guys. Why would he be so stupid ?

Then John tells Sean the plan, why ? He gave them a chance to win. If the 3 Morons get Gabe to vote out John there would be a tie. At least they would have achance at winning the tie-breaker
and then gain the majority of the tribe.

It doesn't make sense for the 3 Morons to vote off Gabe.
Now it's 4 Rotu (who are solid) against the 3 Morons. They have to know that 1 of them is next.

All Rotu has to do is throw the next immunity challenge and that's it. They are still way out numbered with Gabe gone.

I wanted Gabe to go far but he deserves what he got. If you're not there to win and play the game then go home.

In next week's reward challenge, Rotu will send up John, Tammy, Robert, and one of the remaining four. And then in the immunity challenge they'll send up 3 of the remaining 4 not in the reward challenge, and one from John/Robert/Tammy. Makes you wonder how they'll stack up against Maraamu now that they booted off the "brains" of Rotu (Gabe).

You have to admit, this game can really turn on a dime based on personality traits that get the best of the contestants at the worst possible time.

Remember when I said that the old Maraamu tribe members were "battle-tested" by having to go through so many early Tribal Councils, and Rotu was too busy singing Kumbaya and not really "in the game". And then they lose an immunity challenges, and the pressure gets to them, and the wheels come flying off, and they start cannibalizing their core advantage for no real good reason except for John's insecurities. John's the real idiot in all of this at the current moment.

I agree that John is the leading idiot atm. Assuming his alliance of four is strong, by voting Gabe off he is guaranteed to have set doubts in the minds of Neleh, Pappy and Kathy. And if the current four Maraamus win the next IC they'll come into the merge as a very strong four as well and things will become more difficult as John's 4 already would have voted out one of V, Sean or Rob, so the other 2 will no that they are not to be trusted. However, the two ex-maraamus will have the decisive key votes there in case the two 4-some groups go at each other.

Well... anyway, in brief, John is a moron.

I can't believe how stupid people are on this show. Why would gabe not vote with his tribe and kick off one of those 3? It makes no sense. Right now, Rotu should be owning this whole thing. They should be the final 8. Now they screwed it all up because the other 3 in M are wondering why one of their old tribe members got booted.

John's basically done in my opinion. How do you go in front of people that control your destiny and tell them how your a leader and how your so confident.

I just don't get it. They must really pick some bright people to go on that show [NOT].

I don't think it's a matter of "intelligence" but a matter of personality types that does in some of the contestants with a numerical advantage. Basically their paranoia gets the better of them and they fail to take in the big picture, and act on surviving for 3 days at a time, rather than for 39 days. Still, I'm enjoying how the swap has totally changed the game and made it interesting.

Rob is a lot smarter than he looks...or sounds.

Episode 6 Preview

Paschal, Kathy and Neleh are shocked when they learn Gabriel, whom Paschal
considered a son, was voted off the island.

John relishes his newfound position of power, but Rob is quick to challenge it.

One castaway encourages the tribe to throw the immunity challenge.
The question is, will they?

I don't see Rob having this master plan. Anyway you look at it they loose.
Next week, scenario one: Rotu looses the immunity challenge, John, Robert, Zoe & Tammy vote off
one of the 3 morons.

Scenario two: Maraamu looses and they probably vote off Kathy (or maybe Gina).

How does this help the 3 morons ?

They blew there one shot last night. They should have got together with Gabe and targeted one of the 4 Rotu and hope they win the tie-breaker, then they would have a 4-3 majoroty and could vote off the rest of Rotu.

Btw, did you see who Gabe voted for, Rob M.
He wound up voting for one of the 3 morons anyway.
Why didn't he just tell John and Tammy he would vote for Rob when they asked him ?



Gabe sailing around the island after he got kicked off.
http://www.survivorfever.net/gabe_sailing.jpg

I can't believe how stupid the old Rotu were. Ok, if you're worried that Gabe "might" join with the new tribe members, why not head that off at the pass by voting one of the new tribe members. Its not as if Sean and Rob have been gracious to the rest of Rotu.

If you have issues with Gabe, then address them later after you've gotten rid of the threat (not that there was much of a threat.) You don't cannibalize your own strength based on possible insecurities.

And I love how that one chick reasoned why she was voting off Gabe (I don't know her name yet). "He's not here to play the game."

Oh, that's briliant. If you think he's not playing the game then how is he a threat to you? Wouldn;t you raher want to vote off someone who is trying to win the game at all costs?

But you have to admit, the character of "The RobFather" is a stroke of genius for CBS.
He keeps it interesting, even if you think he's toast. Stranger things have happened once the merge is on (after next week's episode). We've already seen how easily fractured the old Rotu tribe was once they lost an immunity challenge and had to go to Tribal Council.

Patman,

I don't thin Rob is a mastermind pulling the strings behind the scenes.
I think he is a lazy idiot.

I wouldn't say Rotu is fractured because one of their members wasn't there to win the million $$. All Gabe had to say was I'm voting for Rob, instead of his stupid response.
John said to him we're still sticking to our plan of reuniting Rotu right ?
They have a plan of reuniting the old Rotu tribe back together, it doesn't sound like a fractured tribe to me.

But here's the funny part, what if the now Maraamu tribe sees what went downwith Gabe, and decided that the old Rotu is a thing of the past, and then other mini-alliances start forming, and it'll be just as unpredictable, and if the Robfather plays his cards right and plays on the insecurities and the lack of trust that's now on display with the Rotu tribe, anything is possible.

Judging by the previews, Paschal was visibily shaken when he learned of Gabe's ouster, so the seeds of mistrust have taken root, plus for all he and Neleh know is that they can't really trust their former tribemates anymore. This opens a huge door for the BAS.

And no, I don't think the Robfather is lazy in the game, he's lazy in the stuff that doesn't matta in the game. The Robfather was blending in with the lazy folks in his original Maraamu tribe, and used it to ride the wave of bad immunity challenge play to make it this far. Hunter couldn't do it, and look where he is now?

Did anyone else get the impression that the "BAS"+John immunity challenge players threw the immunity challenge last night?

What better way to begin picking at the Maraamu 8 than by forcing them into a tribal council?

Huh? Gabe was the one that couldn't see that 14th piece and that's what caused Rotu to lose the reward challenge.

I'm sure Gina is filling in Paschal and the rest on the 3 morons.
There's no way they are going to form an alliance with any of them !
The 3 moron's days are numbered.

I like your BAS name, Patman. I just thought of another good name for those morons:

A Tribe Called Rest.

I miss Jugs. :(

I was just about to post that I thought the challenge was rigged. Maybe they did throw it. But the way the challenges were laid out. First a challenge where logs are hidden all over the place (producers could hide them differently for the different tribes). And Gabe mysteriously can't find the last log because it's hidden back in the bushes? I dunno. Seemed rigged to me. And then to follow that up with the one challenge that specifically gave Maraamu an advantage, and even if they didn't do as well (arguable), it's still a judgment call. I dunno. The whole episode just felt like a setup to force Rotu into tribal council.

das

P.S. I know I'm in the minority here, but I like Gina.

did last nite IC SOS appears on the survivor #1 also?? Pappy's USA flag really help in Maraamu IC last nite.

Gina is physically pretty nice looking, but her voice just makes me want to throw my TV brick sometimes at her.

I still don't buy the Rotu threw the reward challenge.

I have to wonder if Zoe threw the immunity challenge because the "thing" they made was absolutely sucky. Zoe should have known better, being a sea-faring captain herself.