Derrich

I was very disapointed.
First, it was way to easy for the shooters to get to the women. CTU agents were made to look like keystone cops. Especially after the girls were able to escape the killers on thier own.

The 'turn down the dirt path' part was far fetched. And then Terri actually says 'I think I lost him'. I could see the cliches already piling up. The car rolling down the hill was nice. But car's just dont explode like that. All would have been forgiven if Kim had died. This is only a one season story, so why be so protective of all the characters. Let a few major characters die. Killing her would have raised the stakes 10 fold. It would've been even better if the shooter had doubled back(like he should have), saw Terri, and killed her too. The shock factor would have went through the roof. The Jack/Nina tension would be incredible and Jack would be out for revenge instead of just doing his job. But instead, the writers took the easy way out and even threw in the amnesia cliche.

I wont even mention the tape recorder, making the staffer a spy, and Milo jumping in even 5 minutes with 'Jack, you HAVE to see this!'. Worst.Episode.Ever.

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rfduncan

As dangerous as the rating game is for this show, I don't think FOX or the writers/producers would risk this (the second half of the season was scripted and shot while the 1st half was airing supposedly). Killing a pregnant, traumatized woman will NOT get your viewership up regardless of how high the stakes become. This would also turn Jack into a man who is blood-thirty for revenge - which is exactly what the Drazen brothers are. You can't do that - it becomes boring (everyone has a deathwish) and there is no ultimate payoff.

Second - WHAT IS UP PEOPLE?!?! Terri has been awake since say 7am THE DAY BEFORE. She was obviously in a failing mental state when Kim asked to stop the debriefing at the safehouse - did no one see Terri's glazed "I'm-totally-out-of-it" look?!? She has been awake for probably at least 31 hours straight, searched for (with a hired assassin) and found her kidnapped daughter, was raped, escape the clutches of the kidnappers with her daughter, found out she was pregnant, sat through an interrogation conducted by a woman who had an affair with her husband, escaped a second kidnapping/murder attempt with her daughter while being shot at only to ultimately kill her own child by poor parking on a dirt road. Wouldn't YOU lose it and then your memory too?

Keith Palmer's storyline is still weak. At least we FINALLY got a scene where he doesn't get into an arguement that ends with him all belligerent and storming out of the room in a huff. This guy is just too much (and his acting isn't enough)... how old is he supposed to be because I know 12 year olds who would have surveyed this situation more thoroughly than Keith "they killer my friend Dr. Feragamo so let's call the police even if I did murder my sister's rapist" Palmer. This is supposed to raise the emotional stakes for Sen. Palmer in the long run, but it is all so subdued. Does anyone really care in comparison to what JACK is doing?

I am frankly disappointed with many of you who have posted criticisms here and claim to be loyal viewers! A lot of the "plot holes" and stuff people are complaining about are simply their own misunderstandings - or simply that people have not be watching carefully. Come on folks! This is not your average Law & Order television where you can take a leak even if it isn't a commerical break and not miss anything! The cast of characters is altered with each episode and the stakes are always shifting once something else is revealed or unfolds (a tricky task for any viewer of this show). If you arent' getting this stuff on the 1st viewing, best tape it because it is only going to get more complicated for the next several episodes!

Just my .02

das Monkey

*yawn*

I complained about this show being too gimicky when it started, and now it's returned to that.

Nina leaving them was stupid.
The fact that no one at CTU ever checks in to the home office ... stupid. Considering they know of at least 3 assassins, you'd think they'd check in every 10 minutes at LEAST.
There's a back door to Palmer's hotel without a guard? Sure ... why not.
Amnesia? Melrose Place is right.
"I think I lost him. Lemme go check." Are we in an 80s horror film?

As for letting Kim die, the writers already proved they were pussies by not killing Terri when they first had the chance. My back collapsed under the weight of all the cliches as she rolled down the window just before the car went down the hill, and then they play it up with the triumphant music like we didn't know she had gotten out of the car.

But in a world where badass secret agent dude who flinches when anyone walks into a room gets killed in a freakin' bathroom and CTU agents are like red shirts in Star Trek ... I guess anything can happen.

Thankfully CTU is within 2 minutes drive of anywhere in the entire state.

Hey, it's great that some people have attached to this show like it's the second coming, but you can't blame some of us for getting tired of cliche after obvious manipulation after cliche. After a few rocky episodes, the show really started showing some direction and was very entertaining. But since the escape episode, it's obvious that the writers have just been making it up as they go. You get a real sense that they didn't think the show would get picked up for the full season, and now they're scrambling around trying to make something of everything. I've watched every second of every episode and will continue watching them, but the criticism is valid. This show is stumbling along.

das

Patman

I just wished the writers would kill off Palmer's son, he is just too obnoxiously stupid to watch week in week out.

I wasn't all that crazy about the amnesia angle for Terri, that poor woman has gone thourgh a whole lot in the past day and a half.

I did dig Kim's kleavage as she was making her way up the side of the drop off.

Can't believe an operative like Ellis would get whacked so easily. It's like, oh, I'm on TV, whack!

Buh Bye, Alberta!

Gandalf

I absolutely agree with this. I am among those who stated disappointment with various cliches when I saw them in 24. But I challenge anyone to show me a show without cliches. Its most direct "competition", Alias, I can tell you what happens in each episode after seeing the first five minutes, after ep.4 or so aired.

I hope they'll pick up towards the end with 24. Most of the cliches that were used in the series were props to move the show quickly into a certain new situation. This time I guess they want the two women separated, Jack in the dark again just when it seemed he has the upper hand, etc.

Oh and also look for that new boss of his to be the next CTU mole. If he isn't, he sure acts like it. Also it wouldn't make sense to be someone else unless it's Alberta or Chapelle. But I'd bet on the new boss, whatever his name is.

das Monkey

Made the whole car crash angle worth it.

das

das Monkey

Once & Again

What do I win?

das

Patman

You don't think Judy's becoming a cliche?

Bring back Will Gluck!

Static Cling

I think Xander Berkeley's character's name is Mason. He's currently in Jack Bauer's (Kiefer's) boss position at CTU, a position most recently vacated by Alberta Green.

Geoff H

I had a thought about halfway through the episode that I thought would be really cool, but it doesn't seem likely to happen:
What if the lady having an affair with Drazen is also working with him? By that I mean, what if the whole "I'll do whatever I can to help you stop the assasination attempt" thing is really just a ploy to get her inside CTU and close to Bauer?

Static Cling

Yeah, I had that thought, too. I'm actually surprised that the Felicity-lookalike is still alive. Next show looks really good, too.

CarlosTheDwarf

"I think I lost him. Lemme go check."

The most cliche, unbelievable part of the entire series. Obviously they had to get her out of the car, but maybe they could have done it a better way.

JuryDuty

Yeah, I agree, that was definately the weakest line I've seen in this show. I actually shouted at the TV when she said it. It was like saying, "We're safe now. What could possibly happen?" Too easy of a set up.

Still, I love this show and am surprised how much they put into it. I don't know how they could ever have a second season without the viewers feeling like, hey, they did that already...because they've done EVERYTHING!

AgtFox

As I was watching Wednesday's show and Teri fell on the ground I immediately said to my wife that she would wake up not remembering anything or with temporary amnesia because of the shock. My wife was afraid the daughter was dead and I said no way...and there was also no way the car would blow up that fast on that small of a drop.

I also said to my wife that this new group of assassins are far more adept at what they do than Gaines' group was, although there is not as much planning in this group's mission. CTU agents suck at their jobs if they put up no fight (other than the black agent). It's pretty obvious there is a mole in CTU, I doubt it is Nina though. I'm pushing more towards Tony or that new guy (forget his name...the division guy).

Venusian

Numanoid

I have to disagree here. Do any of you folks who claim to "know" when a car will or will not blow up have any supporting evidence, or is it just what you think would happen? Allow me to tell you a story which happened to me a couple of years ago. I had just gone through a toll plaza and was looking in my rear-view mirror when I noticed a car heading for the plaza at about 60 mph (in the manual lanes - which means you have to stop and deal with the toll booth person, no less). No one knows why, but the car was making no attempt to slow down, whatsoever. Well, the car hit the cement divider which launched it into the air while causing it to perform a 180 degree roll at the same time. It emerged on the other side of the plaza (thankfully missing the operator's booth) and landed on its roof. Myself and a couple of other cars pulled over to render assistance. By the time I was out of my car and had made about three steps toward the crash, the car burst into a huge fireball and was completely engulfed in flames. Whoever was in there never had a chance. So, I happen to know from firsthand experience that cars do indeed "blow up that fast". It was truly like watching a movie.

CarlosTheDwarf

Numanoid:

I think cars blowing up in real life is a rare occurence, whereas in movies and T.V. it is the norm.

Sominex

MAYBE...


in the next eppisode or the one after, they will let us know there was a BOMB in the car?

After all, these assasins are pretty thorough.

Sominex

But Milo is a little nosey

And with Jack and the senator having Milo dig up all that info AND all the info Ellis sent him, he probably read up on what was going on and overhead them talking about it

I do not think he is a mole, but who knows... This show is GREAT for keeping me on the edge of my seat


It was also VERY suspicious that Nina left the house, but still... She seems legit

Sominex

ONLY piece of eye candy? Am I the only one finds Nina attractive? How about that eppisode with her in her bra? Good stuff!

I think Jacks daughter AND Nina are pretty hot

Sominex

Also-


Is "Milo" played by the same actor on "Six Feet Under"?

CarlosTheDwarf

yes