Dr. Rosenrosen

Others must have felt it as dull as I did for there not to be a thread up by 10am EST.

I don't even have any wild new hypotheses to share. Things that annoyed me:

1. The cops' search of the parking lot was completely lame. They're searching for a political assassin and don't check under cars, or screen any cars that leave the lot?

2. The Palmer wife subplot is routine and painful to watch. I expect this from wrestling-- as someone pointed out earlier, they're setting the wife up to be shot.

3. Early in Milo's trace they said it was down to a 500 square mile area. Then, after the trace was narrowed, they got it down to a 'radius of 25 miles' -- or 1962 square miles! Even with a 25 mile diameter, it'd be 491 square miles. Show should be smart enough to know high school algebra.

das Monkey

Originally posted by doughelm
1. The cops' search of the parking lot was completely lame. They're searching for a political assassin and don't check under cars, or screen any cars that leave the lot?

Lame lame lame.

Show should be smart enough to know high school algebra.

Maybe that's the problem. They only took algebra, but never made it to geometry.

das

AgtFox

Yes, there was a LOT of unrealistic behavior in last night's episode. The cops not checking under cars was just stupid. Even my wife said, "I can't believe they aren't checking under the cars".

And the losing the trace thing...c'mon, there is an area you can search so why don't you send out a search party to comb the area? Sheesh, they make it sound like there is nothing to go on. Get Tommy Lee Jones on the case...he'll check every outhouse, henhouse, safehouse, etc. in the area .

I've figured out half of this show, or think I have:



It was a pretty dull episode, I would guess next weeks will be good. The stretches of realism really hurt this episode though.

Dr. Rosenrosen

[QUOTE]Originally posted by AgtFox


Hmm... My take is still

Groucho

I guess I'm in the minority because I thought this was the best episode to date. Very exciting, and perfect pacing between the various storylines. The show is kicking into high gear now!

As for the cell phone trace nitpick, he cut it down from on 500 square mile zone to three 25 square mile zones before the connection was lost. The details don't matter...all that matters to the story is that they weren't able to complete the trace.

Here's what I think is going on (surprised nobody's guessed this yet):

bralph

That wouldn't explain why they seem to also be after Jack in addition to Palmer.

Groucho

I didn't get the idea that using Jack was "personal." I think he's just a convenient patsy.

rfduncan

Well how about THIS one ... Jack pulls the fire alarm in the stairwell (do they HAVE pull alarms on the fire stairs?) of an office building and NOT ONE PERSON is seen evacuating the building via these escape stars during his 10+ floor descent. COME ON!

The cell phone tracing - sorry but 20+ minutes to trace a call? Sounds rather ridiculous.

I don't believe Jamie is dead. Just like I don't believe that Jack's boss who said she was the only one he could trust is dead either.

Tony certainly had some suspicious moves of his own this episode - making Milo decode the encrypted email he "miraculously discovered" on Jamie's computer instead of concentrating on tracing Teri's call. Isn't ANYONE else in the CTU unit doing anything besides shuffling papers or is it just Nina, Tony and Milo?!?!

Overall - I enjoyed this episode especially since it feels like a ramp up to ELEVEN NON-STOP WEEKS OF NEW EPISODES!

Gdrlv

Anyone else think that Alberta might be in on everything too? I thought there was a definite sense of forboding when she walked into the CTU.

Also, the parking lot search was probably the lamest thing on the show so far. Not only did they not look under the cars, but Jack's having a frigging conversation with Nina and Teri while the search is going on? Ah well, still one of my favorite shows on the tube right now, so I'm still looking forward to next week...

Gdrlv

I disagree. It seemed like they really wanted Jack dead here, promising that both Jack and Palmer would be dead before the end of the day.

Groucho

The wanting Jack dead business was part of the "next week" promo. I'm guessing he'll do something to really tick them off to elicit that comment.

immortal_zeus

Well...the first half hour was pretty intense....Jack being swarmed by cops and all...while they tried to trace the phone call to Teri and Kim's location.

Alberta Green seems like a biatch. Glad I don't have to work for her.

Groucho...I've been saying that for over a month now. But since we didn't know about these brothers until now, I was saying that the rapist was Gaines' son or something instead. It was just speculation, but I was trying to figure out why the bad guys wanted Palmer dead.

Speaking of Palmer....I want to kill his wife myself! Biatch!

I'm not sure that Tony is all that suspicious....he just needed Milo to do two things at once.....I thought it was very lazy of Tony to call Milo on the phone when Milo is like 20 feet away, though. Get up and walk, people!

Could Teri be pregnant? That was the first thing that came to my mind when she winced. Obviously, not from the rapist, because the effects wouldn't come that fast...but from Jack (or somebody else if she's been unfaithful...which I don't think she has, but hey, who knows?). Maybe she's starting to get a little morning sickness?

G. Noel Gross

I'm with you. I love every moment of this show's contrived and manipulative stabs at tension. You're SUPPOSED to yell at the screen. Enjoy.

AgtFox

Of course this whole thing could be a lot like Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. If you've played it and beaten it you'll know what I'm talking about

Dr. Rosenrosen

This would also explain why it was so important that Bauer, not anybody else, is the CTU patsy. Though I also think there is revenge about Bauer being part of CTU's "Internal Affairs".

Geofferson

I agree, this was very lame. There is no way Jack would talk on the phone while the cops are looking for him.

BTW, I missed the last 2 minutes of last night's show. I got interrupted when Jack went down to the parking ramp and was talking to the Financial Advisor's limo driver. Could someone please post what happened after that?

Thanks.

Dansize

Koffel comes out of the elevator, enters the garage where the valet signals for the limo. He gets in the car and it pulls off. There is a scene where he asks the driver to turn on the A/C. At that point we see Jack is driving. End of episode.

Geofferson

Thanks! I can't wait 'till next week's episode.

Venusian

with 14 episodes left i'm sure there are gonna be some good ones and some in which nothing major happens but it just builds for the others.


alberta and nina obviously have a past, which i'm sure we'll dwelve into to. the whole psychiatrist thing will come up again and it'll probably tie into the other stuff. I'm guessing the rape thing has to do with the main story line so it probably does involve the brothers' family (their other brohter, nephew, something)

Deftones

Last night's episode was good, but not great. I agree that those cops were friggin retards trying to search for Jack. They would've had the whole friggin squad out there searching w/ the dogs if they thought he was contained in such a small area. Plus, they wouldn't let any cars leave out of the parking lot. The entire area would be shut down. Other than that, I liked the episode. I do agree, though, that Palmer's wife is getting really annoying.

Neitzl

Call me crazy, delusional or even perverted but....
With Alberta and Nina....the first thing I thought was
that Nina and Alberta were lovers at one point and that
Jack took Nina away from her, thus making for the "awkward" situation Alberta referred to.

Am I nuts or what???


Neitzl

Venusian

its not the first thing that crossed my mind but with jack and nina's history, then nina and tony being involved...it just kinda figured maybe nina was involved with alberta too

AJW

Am I the only one who thinks Teri and Nina look a lot alike? No I'm not trying to come up with some conspiracy theory here....just an observation.

rfduncan

Or a big perv!

You guys, come on! I think Tony quite clearly stated Nina and Alberta's relationship just prior to Alberta's entrance. He said something like, "Didn't she used to work under you in (can't remember which) unit?" So the tension is something like, Alberta obviously did something sneaky to leap frog over Nina into a higher ranking position and is now NINA'S boss. Either that or Nina moved to CTU to work/be with Jack (hence Alberta sexual innuendo jab to Nina about screwing) and in the process screwed herself out of the promotion which Alberta nabbed. Anyway, there is surely more backstory on this to follow and certainly a huge fly in the ointment for these folks trying to help Jack out from that end.

hondo21

Agreed, but what about the two Einsteins who pulled him over in the first place? Think about it -- why did they pull Jack over? They were specifically looking for him after his escape, so wouldn't they know he was "armed and dangerous" and would be a risk to flee? How stupid were they to just pull up behind and then slowly approach the vehicle like it's a routine traffic stop. They should have blocked his vehicle in the front driver side, jumped out with both guns squarely aimed at Jack's head.

Over all it's an enjoyable show and I'll keep watching. But it's easy to pick at these kind of details.

I also think still think that the whole 747 blowing up in the sky overnight and then no apparent news coverage in the morning is ridiculous. Primary day or not the news media focus would be on the plane crash, not what Palmer is doing. We've seen not one word about the plane since sunrise. Is this being de-emphasized now due to 9/11?