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das Monkey 01-30-02 08:00 PM

Enterprise 1/30/02
 
Two in a row? I'll keep this brief so as not to jinx it, but I enjoyed this episode. I think I liked last week better, but this one was still pretty good, and it was refreshing to see both sides of the escape from trouble angle: Archer used his wits to get by the Klingon lady, and Reed used technology to try to escape the atmosphere.

The sonic shower was gratuitous, but it was also nice to see some comaraderie between these characters.

And just one question ... if Gagh is such a delicacy, why does every Klingon eat it for every single meal ... ever?

das

mikehunt 01-30-02 09:04 PM

so did they give the klingon woman a portable UT?
she spoke perfect English almost immediately

MrN 01-31-02 12:26 AM

I think I'm jinxing the quality of the episode just by watching. I missed both the Andoran episode and last week.

This one, had its moments. They're starting to flesh out the characters a bit - especially the translator chick (hoshi?)

The one thing I'm still not impressed with is Archer's captaincy. I mean, the reason they left Earth was because of that Klingon guy. Now, five months later, he finally cracks a book on them and realizes that they're warlike? Hello? Is he waiting for 'Al' to tell him everything?

ratguy 01-31-02 01:07 AM

I say, bring on the gratuitousness! Let's do an hour long retrospective on that decontamination chamber. It was the best part of the whole show! >:)

Anyone convert that scene to mpeg yet?

iawiaw 01-31-02 01:46 AM

Notice that the Vulcan chick's shorts and tank are a lot more skimper than Hoshi's? Yummmmmm! 8-)

Patman 01-31-02 06:02 AM

Pretty sad when the money shot of the episode is given away in the previews from last week. :)

And how come Archer wasn't in the chamber with the other 3?

I think if I had to classify Tripp's personality, it would be of a trust family bloodhound, he's just so easy going and earnest.

Archer's dialogue delivery is...so...stilted..., but I did like seeing him using his noggin in "negotiating" with the female Klingon and later the ungrateful Klingon captain.

Of course, I found it rather funny to see Archer and Tripp so laid back with a total lack of urgency as the trio (Malcom, Hoshi, T'Pol) were on the Klingon ship falling to their deaths, Archer is just poking around the Vulcan archives on Klingons and Tripp is just hanging around waiting on orders.

But the episode definitely made it into the "did not suck" category for a change.

Wizdar 01-31-02 08:36 AM

I must be in a cranky mood this week. Thought this was Booooring.

I'll try to leave it at this:

Originally posted by ratguy
I say, bring on the gratuitousness! Let's do an hour long retrospective on that decontamination chamber.
I don't think her b-eek--eek-bs are real.

ratguy 01-31-02 09:23 AM


Originally posted by Wizdar
I must be in a cranky mood this week. Thought this was Booooring.

I'll try to leave it at this:
I don't think her b-eek--eek-bs are real.

I'm 99.9% sure that they're not. Heck, I bet they pad Hoshi's bra as well. (didn't that chick from DS9 talk about this, how all ST women have their bras padded?)

I wish it had been Hoshi that had gotten up and walked around, so we could get a good look at her too.

Regarding the rest of the show, I thought it was pretty decent. I also noticed the sometimes not so speedy approach some of the crew members took. Let's think this over... the ship is going to implode in ~20 minutes. Hey, lets take a good 5 minutes to teach Hoshi some Vulcan mind trick, just so she can get control over her ADD. Anyone else find this implausable?

Or, perhaps they're trying to set up some Hot, Hot, Lesbian Action between them. :)

Wizdar 01-31-02 09:33 AM


Originally posted by ratguy
I bet they pad Hoshi's bra as well.
Actually, I thought they strapped them down in the DeCon scene to make N'Pol's look bigger. :lol:

Wizdar 01-31-02 10:11 AM

On a positive note, I liked the little part where N’Pol hesitated at Phlox’s suggestion that they were done. There was a hint of impishness when she developed a “headache.”

This may seem in conflict with complaints about the character, but consider that one of Spock’s endearing qualities was his occasionally being “cute” and making a subtle joke or two. This is not the same thing as the bitchy, angry Vulcan we’ve complained about in the past.

ratguy 01-31-02 11:57 AM


Originally posted by Wizdar
This may seem in conflict with complaints about the character, but consider that one of Spock’s endearing qualities was his occasionally being “cute” and making a subtle joke or two. This is not the same thing as the bitchy, angry Vulcan we’ve complained about in the past.
In total agreement with you here. Back when they were playing B5 at 7pm, I'd watch the last few minutes of ST:TOS before B5 came on. I'd not seen TOS for many years, and watching this time I realized that Spock had the best lines out of all the characters. I was floored, as I didn't remember him being as funny as he was. It made me appreciate his character that much more.

ratguy 01-31-02 12:00 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
Actually, I thought they strapped them down in the DeCon scene to make N'Pol's look bigger. :lol:
Glad to see someone else calling her N'pol. I invented that right after seeing the pilot. (although I doubt I'm the only one to have thought it up)

das Monkey 01-31-02 12:06 PM


Originally posted by ratguy
In total agreement with you here. Back when they were playing B5 at 7pm, I'd watch the last few minutes of ST:TOS before B5 came on. I'd not seen TOS for many years, and watching this time I realized that Spock had the best lines out of all the characters. I was floored, as I didn't remember him being as funny as he was. It made me appreciate his character that much more.
TOS's reign of badass-ness centers around the wit between Kirk, Spock, and McCoy. The Trek franchise (love it as I do) has yet to find the same chemistry between any character. Leonard Nimoy is a singular talent, and it's a shame his Vulcan portrayal is so often overlooked.

das

das Monkey 01-31-02 12:07 PM


Originally posted by ratguy
Glad to see someone else calling her N'pol. I invented that right after seeing the pilot. (although I doubt I'm the only one to have thought it up)
Well, to appease your ego, I use it in daily coversation (as much daily conversation that involves discussing this particular show). :D

das

Wizdar 01-31-02 12:17 PM


Originally posted by ratguy
I invented that right after seeing the pilot.
That was YOU?

Dude! :up: In my book you're right up there with the inventors of pr0n and the das boot edition. ;)

G. Noel Gross 01-31-02 12:52 PM


Originally posted by ratguy
I say, bring on the gratuitousness! Let's do an hour long retrospective on that decontamination chamber.
You're a rat after my own heart.

ratguy 01-31-02 01:13 PM


Originally posted by G. Noel Gross

You're a rat after my own heart.

I'll be honest. I think the show is pretty good, but the reason I keep coming back is hopes of more decontamination scenes with either N'pol or Hoshi.

On the other hand, B5 keeps me coming back because of the story. Lyta is just an added bonus.

das Monkey 01-31-02 01:21 PM


Originally posted by ratguy
I'll be honest. I think the show is pretty good, but the reason I keep coming back is hopes of more decontamination scenes with either N'pol or Hoshi.
I guess I'm in the minority, but N'Pol does nothing for me.

das

Wizdar 01-31-02 01:28 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
I guess I'm in the minority, but N'Pol does nothing for me.

das

I can't seem to keep my eyes off her obvious distractions, but I've never been a member of the "bigger is better" club.

Ivanova gives me the hot. :)

das Monkey 01-31-02 01:54 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
Ivanova gives me the hot. :)
Ivanova does little for me, but Claudia Christian gives me the double hot. She likes to wear braless white t-shirts to conventions ... boi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-ng.

das

ratguy 01-31-02 01:56 PM


Originally posted by Wizdar
I can't seem to keep my eyes off her obvious distractions, but I've never been a member of the "bigger is better" club.

Ivanova gives me the hot. :)

I think her breastsesesesss are a little large for her body, but I definately find her face attractive. Something about her is damn sexy. She's even more attractive when she's not in her ST makeup. That's not something I could say about Nine of 10. I thought Jeri Ryan looked fairly attactive in the body suit & makeup, but every other picture I saw of her completely turned me off. I never understood ST geeks fascination with her.

Hoshi's much cuter than either of them anyhow. :)

ratguy 01-31-02 01:57 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey


Ivanova does little for me, but Claudia Christian gives me the double hot. She likes to wear braless white t-shirts to conventions ... boi-oi-oi-oi-oi-oi-ng.

das

Pics?

(I think someone is forgetting the rules)

das Monkey 01-31-02 01:59 PM


Originally posted by ratguy


Pics?

(I think someone is forgetting the rules)

"someone" is at work right now. :)

das

mikehunt 01-31-02 03:17 PM

T'Pol was on the USA rerun of JAG a few days ago
breasts were somewhat smaller

Wizdar 01-31-02 03:39 PM


Originally posted by das Monkey
"someone" is at work right now. :)

das

So?

Check the B5 thread. ;)

grunter 01-31-02 03:53 PM

This is what annoys me about modern Trek.

The conversion never fails to steer towards which actress this week gave who "the hot." 7 of 9 was the death-knell of Voyager and, unless they start injecting her with a much more pronounced character, "clown-lips N'Pol" is the weakest link of the current Enterprise.

Incidentally last night's episode truly was the second in a string of "good" episodes. Even though you knew there was literally no danger of those three characters biting the big one over the course of the hour, there were enough touches of realism to make it enjoyable.

Still - they did encounter the Klingon ship . . . in the dark, with flashlights . . . again.

bboisvert 01-31-02 04:03 PM


Originally posted by grunter
Still - they did encounter the Klingon ship . . . in the dark, with flashlights . . . again.
But no dog! ;)

(Unless you want to count the Klingon dogs that they were going to eat. :) )


By the way, I absolutely agree with you. Hot or not (I'd vote not), T'pol is a terribly weak character... when she should probably be the most interesting. But, I suppose the producers and writers don't care, since she was obviously hired only for her breasts. During the writing meetings, I can see it now... "Hmmm... it seems like there isn't much character development here... we seem to be having a really tough time writing this Vulcan character... the audience is going to start getting bored with her... WAIT! I've got it! Shower scene!!!!" Problem solved.

But, this episode wasn't bad overall. Definitely not as great as last week, but it does fall into the "doesn't suck" category.

BT 02-01-02 06:14 PM

Good episode, no gratuitous Porthos or spelunking action, although they did break out the flashlights in the dark again. :D

Have a feeling we'll be seeing the Klingons again sometime soon... :)

Bakula needs to tweak Archer a little still. He's a work in progress...

-BT

Wizdar 02-01-02 06:51 PM


Originally posted by BT
Bakula needs to tweak Archer a little still.
Ya think? That's like saying Bill Gates is slightly rich.

Mopower 02-01-02 10:30 PM

N'Pol or (Jolene Blalock) was on the cover of the October 2001 Maxim. I think "their" fake but look kinda real if that makes any sense.....you get to see quite a bit of her....to bad she has an outie! yuck!

ratguy 02-01-02 10:57 PM


Originally posted by Mopower
N'Pol or (Jolene Blalock) was on the cover of the October 2001 Maxim. I think "their" fake but look kinda real if that makes any sense.....you get to see quite a bit of her....to bad she has an outie! yuck!
You think they are? You must not have been judging for as long as I, for I am 99% sure that they're fake.

P.S. There, Their, & They're are your friends, use them well. :)

Mopower 02-01-02 11:45 PM


Originally posted by ratguy



P.S. There, Their, & They're are your friends, use them well. :)


Hey man There and They're done me wrong once real bad......I have nooooo use for those bastards!!! ehhehehhehe

mllefoo 02-02-02 12:14 AM


Originally posted by ratguy
I say, bring on the gratuitousness! Let's do an hour long retrospective on that decontamination chamber. It was the best part of the whole show! >:)

Anyone convert that scene to mpeg yet?

My husband said the vulcan chick should go into porn.

mllefoo 02-02-02 12:25 AM

N'Pol (heh, like this name better than the real one) is the token seven of nine character, only without the emotions. I think her character could be a lot better if the writers could see past her rack long enough to make her a little less biz-nitchy. Spock didn't start coming into his own right away either. It wasn't till he was discovered to have a latent sense of humor and all those superpowers that he began to get really cool :D There may be hope for the N'Pol.

Cap'n Archer...ho boy, don't get me started. I'm still having my doubts that the Unbelieveable Scott Bakula will start playing his character a little better. He's close to Keanu Reeves in his stiffness, but he doesn't have that cute dumb puppy dog look that Keanu has going for him. But the series is young yet, and all of the different Trek series started off a bit stiff. So far the only thing I like about Archer is Porthos. Man, that dog can ACT!

I'm really enjoying this series in spite of its flaws.

ratguy 02-02-02 01:21 AM


Originally posted by mllefoo


My husband said the vulcan chick should go into porn.

Your husband would also be correct.

Snake Plissken 02-02-02 02:50 AM

Crewman Cutler was a hottie!!!

ratguy 02-02-02 09:21 AM


Originally posted by Snake Plissken
Crewman Cutler was a hottie!!!
Which one was she?

ratguy 02-02-02 09:25 AM

N/M, I think I found her. Was she in the second to last episode? I missed that one.

http://www.antaeus.org/Antaeus/LUCK/tWaymire.gif

grunter 02-02-02 11:56 AM


Originally posted by mllefoo


My husband said the vulcan chick should go into porn.

Actually I was thinking she should become a lip model for some anti-herpes medication like "herpicin" or "acyclovir". Those lips look dangerously close to bubbling over into full-blown sores.

If anything on that woman's body has been enhanced, it had to be those smackers. What? Is she half duck-billed platypus? Or just part-clown on her mother's side?

Disturbing, either way.


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