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adamblast 10-18-01 02:54 PM

Got to agree that the holodeck was a major misstep... And giving it to the Kingons this early is a continuity disaster... Although it did provide us with the line: "Hey, I can see my house from here!" :rolleyes: :)

Damfino 10-18-01 03:09 PM


Originally posted by caipirina


oh .. and it is ok to show nipple and call it nipple on TV as long as it is anatomically at the wrong spot ??? yeah yeah !

No. It's only ok to show a man's nipples.


Also, is it me or did these Klingons seem rather tame?

mikehunt 10-18-01 03:41 PM

I think Hoshi had gotten the klingon language loaded into the comm system


Originally posted by grunter
Why is it the Klingons spoke English? According to the earlier episodes, the universal translator isn't exactly "universal" quite yet. (That's why we have Hoshi). But we have Klingons that actually speak Earth-tongue. What's up with that?

Selective use of continuity is a frustrating thing.

Oh and the new "Enterprise" cliche is getting a little annoying. I'm referring of course to the way the characters always make a note of precisely how many weeks they've been on their journey. If B&B were going to dive into this continuity thing, then they should just go balls-out. But unfortunately, I think the best we'll get is the occasional dialogue footnote about what happened with "species X" such-and-such weeks back.

*sigh*


Wizdar 10-18-01 03:52 PM


Originally posted by Damfino
No. It's only ok to show a man's nipples.
[Heavy sigh] Yah, my favorite part of the female form.


We're WAY past nipples (as far as talking about them), thanks to Bill and Monica. ;)

renaldow 10-18-01 04:06 PM


Originally posted by Jason
I always thought the holodeck was a cheap plot element and any story involving getting trapped on it or hoho characters coming to life was utterly pointless. I swear, if they build their own holodeck, I'm going to stop watching.
I have to agree, and that's a major reason I never watched any of the other ST shows very much. After that holodeck has taken over the Enterprise a few times and held people hostage at other times, it seems like they'd shut it down for good.

Lou Pole 10-18-01 04:40 PM


Originally posted by renaldow
I thought it was an entertaining episode, but there's one thing that was really stupid.

'Here's some gelatinous cubes, it's the closest we could get to your water.' Then later on he's on a boat in the holodeck floating on water. I thought perhaps it would be some other fluid, but when he's back on the Enterprise describing it it's water and he says he could even smell the salt air.


I'm glad Im not the only one that caught the stupidity of that.

and I too like the way T'Pol sits in the captains chair -other-

Duran 10-18-01 06:43 PM


Originally posted by renaldow
I thought it was an entertaining episode, but there's one thing that was really stupid.

'Here's some gelatinous cubes, it's the closest we could get to your water.' Then later on he's on a boat in the holodeck floating on water. I thought perhaps it would be some other fluid, but when he's back on the Enterprise describing it it's water and he says he could even smell the salt air.

Yes, but the water they were floating on was holographic, remember. One would hope the stuff they were feeding him was not. :)

MrN 10-18-01 11:43 PM


Originally posted by Duran


Yes, but the water they were floating on was holographic, remember. One would hope the stuff they were feeding him was not. :)


But, didn't she act like she didn't know what water was?

Patman 10-19-01 07:59 AM

Who was the chick that got Trip pregnant? She had this smoldering sexiness that cross species line.

I find myself incapable of looking away when T'Pol is onscreen. :)

Duran 10-19-01 09:16 AM


Originally posted by MrN



But, didn't she act like she didn't know what water was?

I took it to mean that they didn't have any/couldn't synthesize it. I have a hard time believing a spacefaring race wouldn't know what you get when you combine 2 hydrogen atoms with 1 oxygen.

Wizdar 10-19-01 10:12 AM


Originally posted by das Monkey
Anyone care to explain to me why this race, masters of cloaking technology and holodecks, needed Gomer Pyle's help with their engines?

das

I’m going more for Whitledge (Nick Adams in No Time For Sergeants) :)

Coupla thoughts:

The Enterprise is supposed be a more functional, perhaps cramped, ship. So, why is the captain’s shower (-eek-)about the same size as the captain’s mess?

T’Pol as a stand-up comic: don’t quit your day job. (I think the gnome on SU2 has better delivery.)

Flox: you’d think with all the advances that medicine has made, they could fix the side of your mouth that doesn’t work. Physician, heal thyself.

If this is the only time they use a holodeck, I think I can live with it. If they do it again, I think the writers should take a substantial cut in pay. Save the laziness for the obligatory time-travel series conclusion.

Reality check: decompression takes a lot more time than compression.

My vote for worst line of the season: “I can see my house from here.”

Series constants, so far: technology breakdown, meal in the captain’s mess, scene with the dog, T’Pol’s knockers (:)) -- anything else?



Wizdar’s pick for where “that line” should have been:

Gravity is restored and Archer falls to the floor of the shower.
Archer: “Ho, boy!”

:D

das Monkey 10-19-01 10:58 AM


Originally posted by Wizdar
...

:lol:

das

caipirina 10-19-01 11:13 AM


Originally posted by Wizdar

Coupla thoughts:

The Enterprise is supposed be a more functional, perhaps cramped, ship. So, why is the captain’s shower (-eek-)about the same size as the captain’s mess?

:D

Was wondering the exact same thing .. one may hope that he has to share it with Hoshi and T'Pol and we get to see that sometime soon :)

P

MrN 10-20-01 01:14 AM


Originally posted by caipirina


Was wondering the exact same thing .. one may hope that he has to share it with Hoshi and T'Pol and we get to see that sometime soon :)

P


The way they've been exploiting T'Pol, if the ratings start to fall, I predict mini skirts and low-cut tops.

spainlinx0 10-20-01 02:14 AM

I don't see the problem with the holodeck here, and the people who don't see how they would suck at space travel. Maybe they just FOCUSED more on holodeck technology. Some species seem to do thing better than others. That's how I rationalize it to myself.

Wizdar 10-20-01 07:11 AM


Originally posted by MrN
The way they've been exploiting T'Pol, if the ratings start to fall, I predict mini skirts and low-cut tops.
Ain't no way I'm watchin' if Scott puts on a mini! I've seen him in a dress on Quantum Leap, and he just doesn't have the legs for it...

:D

caipirina 10-20-01 10:17 AM

yummy .. can i eat that wall panel ??

loved that idea :)

Slumbering Fist 10-21-01 02:11 PM

The fact that they had holodeck technology yet were crap at repairing/having good engines didnt bother me. You could make the same argument with humans splitting the atom before making other, seemingly simple in comparison advancements.

I dont really like the hick, so I wasnt overly enthused with the episode, but it was okay.

Wizdar 10-21-01 10:24 PM

Oh, I get it now!

CARBON-ated water... -rolleyes-

Giantrobo 10-22-01 06:07 PM

I think this was the first time I heard the Phrase "Knocked Up" on a Trek show. rotfl

I like this show!


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