I think (and hope) that Wolf wins. I don't like Whitlow...she seems too conniving to me. I'm sure Wolf has done his fair share of trickery, too, but I just don't like Whitlow.

That obstacle thing and the 1.5 mile run were pretty messed up....I mean, it's obvious that Whitlow has gotten into better condition from when she started than Wolf...Wolf was already in good shape when he started. That bullcrap about seeing who can beat their first time by the most is bull. I wonder if they would have had the same format if there were two finalists of the same sex? I wonder if they did that just to keep the game sort of equal...anybody know?

CBS. They sued Fox saying this was a rip off of survivor. ANyone know the result?

CBS's lawsuit is totally ridiculous and they don't have the slightest chance of winning.

I hope Wolf wins too. At first I didn't like him too much, but he's ok now. Whitlow I never much liked. Overall I think Wolf deserves it much more.

That obstacle course was total bs. Wolf actually tried and did well, being in the lead he kept pushing himself. Whitlow slacked off during the whole thing and it really seemed she gave up when she knew how far behind she was. So they then tell them they have to run it again and the person who improves most wins. What crap, did you see Wolfs face - a total "WTF???" look on his face. I can't help but think they did that just to give Whitlow a chance of winning some of the challenges.

That 1.5 mile run was pretty biased too. Wolf was in good shape when he entered and ran the first run pretty fast. The training improved him, but not as much since he was already in shape. Whitlow was out of shape when she started, so no doubt is going to have a lot more stamina now then when she started. Plus the fact that she ran the first one slow, of course she's going to have a faster time in seconds than her first. To be fair they should have at least done percentages and not times. 10% faster of 10 mins is 1 minute. 1 minute faster of 25 minutes is only 4% increase...(not the real time, but good for the analogy) Comparing apples and oranges, and again biased against the stronger candidate.

Wolf is getting screwed. It will be interesting to see how the other recruits vote though, most seemed to dislike Wolf a lot more, but it might come down to the survivor1 effect and they'll vote Wolf since overall he was the better recruit.

From what I heard, it was WOLF. I think he should win because he has worked the hardest from the 2 episodes that I saw.

I don't know but I suspect it is to give the weaker one a chance (otherwise, only the strongest, fastest men would win). Heck, Wolf even beats Whitlow on mind/memory stuff. If it weren't for trick contests, she wouldn't have a chance.

Yeah...that's pretty bogus. What's really gonna suck for Wolf is if the 6 recruits who vote like Whitlow better...a lot of them (especially the female recruits) probably think he's an arrogant SOB. Plus, he's a 22 year-old college kid so they might think he's just a snotty brat who's not worthy of winning half a million dollars.

I don't care all that much but if I had to choose, I choose Whitlow. Wolf is too arrogant, SOB. Gee, Wolf beat Whitlow in the obstacle course. Pitting a guy versus a girl. Whitlow should have voted Wolf off. Whatever.

I agree that the obstacle course was unfair to Wolf. I hope he wins, though. Whitlow (and a couple of the female recruits) just seemed really sneaky and untrustworthy. I'm hoping it ends up like Survivor 1... the way the other recruits have been talking, it sounds like they dislike both Wolf and Whitlow, but since Wolf was more open and honest about his sneaky tactics (like Rich from Survivor), he'll get their votes.

I'm curious. What have the ratings for the show been? Anyone know?

I'm pretty sure Wolf will win, but I hope he doesn't. He's just an egotistical jackass thats way too full of himself.

Initially, the ratings were good. I don't know if they increased or decreased since. There doesn't seem to be much buzz about it.

Well, if I had to go to war with either Wolf or Whitlow backing me up, I'd pick Wolf. I'd also pick him over Whitlow for the big prize was well. She hasn't shown me much when it comes to performance in boot camp missions and drills.

I'm the only one of my friends that has watched Boot Camp. :(

I think Wolf will win the gauntlet, but Whitlow may be the overall winner when it comes to the vote. Most people knew Wolf was manipulating people during the votes whereas I'm not sure everyone caught on to what Whitlow was doing.

Another case of a snake and a rat. Sound familiar. ;)

Anyone change their mind about boot camp after watching this show?

The way they handicapped the gauntlet events (like Coddington's course) irritates me to no end.

I don't know... I think it's an interesting approach. Although I think it would be better if they found some way to weight the results a bit to show Wolf did better initially on both. From the commercials though I don't think Witlow is going to improve her time on the course the 2nd time around. Unless that shot of her giving up on the rope climb is from something else. Remember she's pretty much spent while Wolf is still going strong.

Well, it's a sneaky way of doing it. If you knew going in that your initial time (from the start of boot camp) could help or hinder your chance during the final two gauntlet, the contestants could adjust their level of exertion in the events.

THAT WAS DISGUSTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm truely sickened by that final show!
You would think the rejected recruits could have atleast known the TRUTH before voting. damn.

I guess it all depends upon how you feel about the "beat your own time thing" but Whitlow did beat her time by the most on the 1.5 mile run so I think that's legit. WRT the final outcome and incident that brought it about...

I don't know why so many people get so bent out of shape over the way these shows decide the winner.

Both recruits rubbed people the wrong way. It was the way they did it that made a difference.

It's not only the physical part that's important, but the mental part(any muscle bound bonehead can win a physical challenge if he/she is the strongest. What separates the thestrong from the weak is the mental aspect.

While both recruits schemed, did it behind the scenes while was much more confrontational, accusing people to their face in front of others and making a spectacle out of it, people remeber these things, people don't care to be emabarrased especially in front of others.

And I don't think it would be fair to let the other recruits know what went on after they were dismissed. Otherwise it would be an all aout lovefest not to offend anybody.

That's fair enough but I think the recruits who were left in the game at the time of the incident should have been given the accurate information as to what exactly happened once it was discovered. Unless of course it wasn't found until they were editing the tapes afterwords, then nobody knew...

OH MY GOD!!! :mad:

I'M NOT EVEN GONNA BOTHER WITH THE SPOILER CAVEAT BECAUSE I AM PISSED OFF AS ALL HELL. WHAT TOTAL B.S.! I CAN'T BELIEVE WHITLOW WON...:mad:

WAS THIS FRICKIN' JUICED???? :mad:

THAT GIRL IS IRRITATING AS ALL HELL. IT MADE ME CRINGE TO SEE HER AFTERWARDS....AND I HATE THAT DAMN SMILE. :mad:

I THINK IT'S SO SAD THAT WOLF LOST BECAUSE OF MORETTI (SHE WAS THE ONE WHO LEFT HER DAMN D-RING!!!) :mad:

I'M SORRY THAT I'M WRITING IN ALL CAPS, BUT I'M JUST STEAMED AS A MO-FO. :mad:

BTW, I'M STILL MAD. :mad:

It's terrible how I'm getting so worked up over a TV show...:(

I couldn't agree more. What pissed me off the most was that Moretti got up there and said she voted for Whitlow because Wolf left the d ring when it was really her d ring. Wolf worked harder than anyone from beginning to end. It was him that got Whitlow into the Gauntlet.

I wonder what the people that voted for Whitlow because of the whole d ring thing think now after seeing what really happend?

neither of the last two contestants are the one's who should be hated...it should be moretty w/ a "y." in the episode with the whole yaney-moretty-wolf incident, they showed at the end what happened--it was moretty who failed to remember to take her damn d-ring out of the tunnel (altho she gave it to wolf and wolf dropped it, it was still HER responsibility). then when they got to the detonation point, SHE was the one who swiped Yaney's d-ring so it looked like she had all of her equipment (yaney ran back to the explosives to see why they were taking so long and left his d-ring at the detonation point).

wolf was robbed.

--HN

p.s. yeah, i watched the show a little ;)

The question for everyone now is though, would you watch Boot Camp 2 and what would you like to see changed?

I hated the resolution of Boot Camp! Those dismissed recruits are jackasses for voting the way they did.

Thompson and Yaney are major wusses.

I knew the women would vote as a bloc.

Wolf did himself no favors with the way he conducted himself, but Whitlow spent 2 of those weeks on crutches, while the rest of recruits were busting their butts on a hourly basis. I still can't believe she slinked all the way to the big prize.

One of the changes I would make is to make each and every recruit earn their right to vote during a challenge for every vote on dismissal hill. I can't stand recruits that get a vote just for breathing.

The other change is making the voting anonymous so that peer pressure doesn't factor into it as much.

If you are going to host a game that involves tons of physical activities, but rely on politics to settle matters, why even have the physical activities, just conduct a different form of battle of the wits and not misrepresent the game to the American public.

Wolf was robbed!

I haven't watched an episode, and never will.
The change I would make to the show is to stop calling them recruits.

I am not in the armed forces, but if I was, I 'm sure that I would feel offended that these people are being called recuits when they only war they are fighting is for half a million dollars.

Yeah, since I'm a couch potato, I'd probably watch Boot Camp 2...

The major change I would want to see is a "reunion" type show like how they had on Survivor afterwards. I'd love to see everyone's faces after they'd found out that it was Moretty who left her D-ring instead of Wolf. They would have been sitting there eating crow. Bastards. :mad:

I think the voting was anonymous, wasn't it? I think they voted (wrote down the name in their binder thing) and then went back into formation. I think when each recruit was talking, they were just giving the reasons behind their voting...they had already voted beforehand.

So, what the hell makes you qualified to even voice an opinion?!

See above.

Count me in as another person who is pissed about the ending of this show. WTF! Whitlow hardly survived the Gauntlet! Wolf totally dominated the events and was screwed out of the prize. I guess the moral of the story for future Boot Camp contestants is to make friends and not worry about the physical conditioning part - it is irrelevant in the game.

I didn't think Whitlow had a chance after the gauntlet. Wolf only needed one vote. It shocked me that he couldn't get a single vote but I'm glad he didn't win. He was arrogant to the bitter end and after it was over.

Tough cookies, kid. Now, go back to college.