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Old 06-04-15, 10:28 PM   #1
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Please help me choose a new motherboard!

So after many blue screens and troubleshooting, I am almost certain my mobo is shot. I'd really appreciate some help with choosing one from Newegg as I'm ignorant as far as boards, CPU's, etc. I need a board for a MicroATX case with one PCI-Express slot unless onboard video has HDMI. I'm not sure if any CPU is compatible with any board, but my current CPU is an AMD. As far as budget, cheaper the better (under $100). Thanks guys.
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Old 06-04-15, 11:00 PM   #2
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

We'll need more information then that, as motherboards have specific CPU compatibility. We'll need to know what type of AMD CPU you have.
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Old 06-04-15, 11:05 PM   #3
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

And do you know if you are able to take the CPU off the motherboard you have know? Not sure if you're trying to do that, move your current CPU to a new motherboard. I had an old Dell Zino (small HTPC) and the CPU was pretty much glued to the motherboard.
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

Also need to know your RAM config and type if you are bringing that over.
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Old 06-04-15, 11:57 PM   #5
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

If it's a prebuilt computer (Dell, HP, etc, not homemade or local shop built) post the make and model number.

Run this and post screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard and memory tabs.

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
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Old 06-05-15, 12:29 AM   #6
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

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If it's a prebuilt computer (Dell, HP, etc, not homemade or local shop built) post the make and model number.

Run this and post screenshots of the CPU, Mainboard and memory tabs.

http://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html
It is not pre-built. A friend of mine helped me build it years ago.
The CPU is an AMD Athlon. I will be migrating the CPU as well. The motherboard I'm replacing is an Asus A8V-VM SE if that matters. The RAM is DDR-333. As far as seeing if the CPU is removable, I flipped up the metal clip but it doesn't seem to budge, but I'm not really sure how to remove it.
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

Wow, that's a pretty old system. This is probably one of those cases where you're probably much better off spending $300 on a cheap budget or refurb system then trying to replace the motherboard, but if you're intent on keeping that one it might be easiest to just look for a used version of the same model on ebay so you're not worrying about finding drivers or changing chipsets since it's an old VIA chipset Socket 939 motherboard.
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Old 06-05-15, 02:11 AM   #8
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

Agree with Fumanstan. That setup is so old you'll need to see what you can find on ebay, but you'll get a better bang for your buck doing a MB/CPU/RAM upgrade.

If your in Long Island then you might want to check out MicroCenter. Whenever I'm looking for a cheap CPU/MB upgrade I see people posting great bundle deals from there but they are for local store pickup only.
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

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Agree with Fumanstan. That setup is so old you'll need to see what you can find on ebay, but you'll get a better bang for your buck doing a MB/CPU/RAM upgrade.

If your in Long Island then you might want to check out MicroCenter. Whenever I'm looking for a cheap CPU/MB upgrade I see people posting great bundle deals from there but they are for local store pickup only.
Yeah I'm not far from Micro Center. I'd really prefer New Egg though. So basically I should change the board, RAM, & CPU?
Can you recommend anything from Newegg?
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Old 06-05-15, 08:23 AM   #10
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

I'm a little out of the loop, particularly with the latest MBs. Others may be able to help out more.

$100 isn't much to work with because you'll be spending $25-30 on 4GB of RAM. An extra $50 would open up a lot more options.

Also, what do you use the system for? What OS are you running?

Personally I would get a G3258 from Microcenter for $50, which is $20 less than Newegg. This Intel processor is a budget builder darling because it can be overclocked easily, but even if you don't want do that it's still a good value. I think Microcenter prices them as a loss leader because they are popular.

I'd have to research MBs but there are several in the $40-50 range on Newegg that work with the G3258.
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Old 06-05-15, 09:25 AM   #11
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

If you can't afford to upgrade, just buy another board like the one you think is bad

Asus is still a decent company, the board is worth buying a second time if you can't afford anything else

http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...&condition=new

but I really agree with others, time to upgrade, will see if there is a bundle on newegg and post back
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Old 06-05-15, 09:27 AM   #12
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

or for $150, you should be able to make something like this work out (but note this is a SLOW processor)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...=Combo.1625896

Your current windows install might not boot on this board, if you can re-install great, if you need to 'transfer' your existing install there are a couple things you can do.
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Old 06-05-15, 11:13 AM   #13
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or for $150, you should be able to make something like this work out (but note this is a SLOW processor)
It's all relative. Looking at the specs for AMD Athlon CPUs that use the Socket 939 on his current Mobo, that "slow" processor is significantly faster than the best possible CPU he currently has.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare.php?cmp[]=82&cmp[]=61&cmp[]=1494
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_939
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/29...cket-processor

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Your current windows install might not boot on this board, if you can re-install great, if you need to 'transfer' your existing install there are a couple things you can do.
When replacing a motherboard, Windows will almost always need a new activation. If it's an OEM license, technically it can't be transferred. If it's a retail license (including "upgrade" version), it should activate on the new motherboard if it's been about a year since the last activation.

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Old 06-05-15, 05:25 PM   #14
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

I can up the budget to around $200 to upgrade the board/RAM/CPU. I'd be running Win7 (and will upgrade to 10 when available). If Windows needs to be reinstalled that isnt a big deal. I mainly use it for basic tasks, no gaming, but I do a lot of video encodes/editing.
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Old 06-05-15, 10:08 PM   #15
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

So I just did a search on Newegg for 'Micro ATX motherboard combo' and had quite a lot of choices starting at $49 (this is not including RAM).
What do you guys think of this...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-565-_-Product

and if i'm not mistaken, it looks like I can use my current RAM with it, plus, it has an HDMI port which I'm looking for.
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Old 06-05-15, 10:31 PM   #16
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

The ram is different, you would need to buy ram to make that board work. (333 vs 1333)
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Old 06-05-15, 10:36 PM   #17
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

bear with me for a second, there are a ton of options. I like to spend money wisely and not just rush to do something I later regret

wmansir back up in post 10 gave you the best advice, now that you are saying you have $200 to spend, do it wisely.

Buy the G3258 processor from either newegg or MC if you want to save a few bucks (1150 socket)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-374-_-Product


Grab this motherboard, after rebate $38 - and has HDMI you want

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-693-_-Product

and then which version of windows 7 do you run, 32 bit or 64 bit?

64 bit, get this ram ($44)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820313429

32 bit get this for $34

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820226285

and you have the best value for the money spent in your current situation IMO
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Old 06-05-15, 10:57 PM   #18
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The ram is different, you would need to buy ram to make that board work. (333 vs 1333)
More importantly, his original RAM is DDR, while the new motherboard takes DDR3 RAM. The old RAM physically won't fit; they move the notch every generation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR_SDRAM
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

For a $200 budget you could probably move up a level over the G3258. Microcenter has the Intel Core i3-4170 for $100. The biggest difference between the two is the i3 has hyperthreading, which gives a significant boost for multithreaded apps like video encoding.
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Old 06-06-15, 04:54 AM   #20
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For a $200 budget, I would get this combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.2372667

$90, plus a $10 mail in rebate, so $80 total.

Plus Microcenter's $100 i3-4170 plus ~%10 tax. (Newegg has i3-4160 for $120, still under $200 total if you count rebate)


Cheapskate (with zero interest in overclocking) combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.2372202

$76, plus $10 rebate, $66 total.

Plus Microcenter's $43 G3250. ($56 on Newegg). This is basically the same as the G2358, but without the overclocking potential.



Honestly, I would get the first MB/Memory combo regardless of the chip. 8GB dual channel vs 4GB single channel is well worth the extra $15.

You can get the cheap MB in combo with the 8GB memory, but you lose the USB 3.0 front header and only save $5.
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Old 06-06-15, 02:31 PM   #21
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

Guys thanks again for being so helpful. The reason I'm stuck on Newegg is because I have a line of credit with them & just dropped a huge chunk of change on concert tix so I'm pretty cash poor right now. Anyways, you guys know better than I do so instead of myself choosing is there something everyone can agree on?
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Old 06-06-15, 05:04 PM   #22
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is there something everyone can agree on?
Probably not, there are 1000's of options

My last post is cheaper

wmansir's last post is better


If I were doing this on credit, I would go with cheaper, I dislike credit and avoid it like the plague. But on the other hand, since you appear to keep machines so long, it may be worth it to spend a little more and get the better setup

At this point it is really up to YOUR buying preference, you have a couple good options that I don't think anyone is arguing against
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Old 06-06-15, 10:06 PM   #23
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

ok So how about the mobo/ram that wmansir recommended
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...i8f0009mo00053

..and the cpu that 4KRG recommended
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...4ss0009mo00053

BTW, 4kRG, I can use either 32 or 64 bit.
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Re: Please help me choose a new motherboard!

I'm not sure if the board has a PCI-E slot but if it does I currently have this video card...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814130585

Would there be any benefits in using it over the onboard video?
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Old 06-07-15, 12:17 AM   #25
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That board isn't worth running over Intel's onboard GPU.

You're previous post is a good compromise and you will be able to upgrade it easily to a faster chip in the future. The only thing I would recommend is considering the G3250. Same chip as the G3258, but without the unlocked multiplier. If you have absolutely zero interest in overclocking then it would save you [email protected]
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