Tech Talk Discuss PC Hardware, Software, Internet and Other Technology

Amazon Echo

Old 11-06-14, 10:19 PM
  #26  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Quack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Flo Rida
Posts: 6,980
Re: Amazon Echo

I wonder if it would be hard for her to play this?



Also in for it too
Quack is offline  
Old 11-06-14, 10:36 PM
  #27  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
fumanstan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 55,173
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by zyzzle View Post
My statement stands, it has nothing to do with liking or disliking Amazon. Their end goal is a disguised good into an evil (greedy, avaricious) end. It sets a very bad precedent ... Siri at least doesn't try to sell you anything, and I think we could do without her, also. Sometimes thinking for ourselves is better than getting a canned answer back from a tech gadget or device, no?
I'm pretty sure it has entirely to do with disliking Amazon on your part

Personally i'm not concerned about these companies to think of them as Big Brother and that Amazon, Google, Microsoft, or Apple are all out to do evil though, although I can understand some of the concern from others. In the case of this product, it seems useful beyond just trying to sell you Amazon goods and it can function just as a cool gadget for reminders, music, podcasts, whatever.
fumanstan is offline  
Old 11-06-14, 11:07 PM
  #28  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 37,953
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by zyzzle View Post
My statement stands, it has nothing to do with liking or disliking Amazon. Their end goal is a disguised good into an evil (greedy, avaricious) end. It sets a very bad precedent ... Siri at least doesn't try to sell you anything, and I think we could do without her, also. Sometimes thinking for ourselves is better than getting a canned answer back from a tech gadget or device, no?
I can think for myself all I want, but it's not going to get me proper weather forecasts while I'm doing other things. Or tell me how many years it takes Saturn to get around the sun (it was trivia night).

This is just a standalone version of Siri / Google Now.
RichC2 is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 01:11 AM
  #29  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Mikael79's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: IA Now, From MN
Posts: 5,907
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by zyzzle View Post
This appears to be Amazon's version of Big Brother's telescreen... Avoid at all costs unless you want to be monitored 24/7 by one whose intentions aren't good.
Yep, I signed up.
Mikael79 is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 01:24 AM
  #30  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
Supermallet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Termite Terrace
Posts: 54,048
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by RichC2 View Post

This is just a standalone version of Siri / Google Now.
Which makes it a real oddity to me. I can buy a great bluetooth speaker for less than that device, and connect my phone to it, and ask Siri the same questions I can ask Alexa, and also stream music and podcasts and all that. Additionally, I can do all those things with my phone without the speaker, whereas this service is built into the speaker. I just don't see the point.
Supermallet is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 01:45 AM
  #31  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,556
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by Supermallet View Post
Which makes it a real oddity to me. I can buy a great bluetooth speaker for less than that device, and connect my phone to it, and ask Siri the same questions I can ask Alexa, and also stream music and podcasts and all that. Additionally, I can do all those things with my phone without the speaker, whereas this service is built into the speaker. I just don't see the point.
Voice command function without having to touch the device is the only thing I can think of. Or maybe more of a household item vs a personal one. I'm sure people will have a use for it.
Xiroteus is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 02:55 AM
  #32  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,997
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by fumanstan View Post
I'm pretty sure it has entirely to do with disliking Amazon on your part

Personally i'm not concerned about these companies to think of them as Big Brother and that Amazon, Google, Microsoft, or Apple are all out to do evil though, although I can understand some of the concern from others. In the case of this product, it seems useful beyond just trying to sell you Amazon goods and it can function just as a cool gadget for reminders, music, podcasts, whatever.
Hey, don't you know that those big companies actually have great influence on how things get done in society's sociological framework? They can and will try to cater to their own interests above all else. I don't know if that is all right in the long term... It certainly isn't healthy for the average consumer.

Until we have an automaton as realistic as the one shown in THE MACHINE, I won't believe these big players are without some "evil" (= greedy, self-serving) intent.

But, until then I'll sit back and watch the show and see what becomes of this latest Amazon ploy...
zyzzle is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 07:52 AM
  #33  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 417
Re: Amazon Echo

I was intrigued and interested when I first heard about the device yesterday, but with more time to think about it, the more likely I am going to pass on this. Like other people have said, I think it will be fun to use for about 15 minutes or so and then it'll just collect dust.

I requested my invite, so I still have time to decide but it's looking like a no at the moment.
scorpion is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 08:23 AM
  #34  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 37,953
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by Xiroteus View Post
Voice command function without having to touch the device is the only thing I can think of. Or maybe more of a household item vs a personal one. I'm sure people will have a use for it.
Yeah, I compare it to the Moto X, that phone has a dedicated second processor that basically does nothing but listen for voice commands.

Last edited by RichC2; 11-07-14 at 08:30 AM.
RichC2 is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 08:58 AM
  #35  
DVD Talk Hero
 
D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB)'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Stick out your tongue!
Posts: 39,042
Originally Posted by Xiroteus View Post

Voice command function without having to touch the device is the only thing I can think of. Or maybe more of a household item vs a personal one. I'm sure people will have a use for it.
Both my note 3 and Note 4 can do voice activation hands free. It can't buy something with a single command though, nor would I want it to. Doesn't really work for my needs.
D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB) is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 09:36 AM
  #36  
DVD Talk Hero
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 25,062
Re: Amazon Echo

I would probably use Siri a lot more if I didn't have to hold down the home button to activate it. So I can see the point.
Tracer Bullet is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 10:40 AM
  #37  
DVD Talk Godfather
 
fumanstan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Irvine, CA
Posts: 55,173
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by zyzzle View Post
Hey, don't you know that those big companies actually have great influence on how things get done in society's sociological framework? They can and will try to cater to their own interests above all else. I don't know if that is all right in the long term... It certainly isn't healthy for the average consumer.

Until we have an automaton as realistic as the one shown in THE MACHINE, I won't believe these big players are without some "evil" (= greedy, self-serving) intent.

But, until then I'll sit back and watch the show and see what becomes of this latest Amazon ploy...
Rage against that machine!
fumanstan is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 11:05 AM
  #38  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,556
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by D.Pham4GLTE (>60GB) View Post
Both my note 3 and Note 4 can do voice activation hands free. It can't buy something with a single command though, nor would I want it to. Doesn't really work for my needs.
My smart phone is getting too old!

I thought the newer phones may have had something like that.
Xiroteus is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 01:22 PM
  #39  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Goat3001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: NYC
Posts: 16,706
Re: Amazon Echo

I requested an invite. I think it's a cool gadget for the price. I'm in the market for bluetooth speakers anyway and I know I can get cheaper ones but with all the other cool stuff it can do I'll bite. It's only $100. If I don't get an invite I wouldn't pay $200 for it.

I also like the idea that I can name it. Trying to decide between "cock sucker" and "ass hole". I guess I have time to figure that out.
Goat3001 is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 01:32 PM
  #40  
Psi
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Psi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Texas
Posts: 8,698
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by zyzzle View Post
Hey, don't you know that those big companies actually have great influence on how things get done in society's sociological framework? They can and will try to cater to their own interests above all else. I don't know if that is all right in the long term... It certainly isn't healthy for the average consumer.

Until we have an automaton as realistic as the one shown in THE MACHINE, I won't believe these big players are without some "evil" (= greedy, self-serving) intent.

But, until then I'll sit back and watch the show and see what becomes of this latest Amazon ploy...
You're over-thinking it. Sheesh...
Psi is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 02:45 PM
  #41  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: frass canyon
Posts: 16,249
Re: Amazon Echo

I'd get this bitchy version of Alexa:

RoyalTea is offline  
Old 11-07-14, 05:05 PM
  #42  
DVD Talk Hero
 
davidh777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Home of 2013 NFL champion Seahawks
Posts: 40,507
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by Decker View Post

Music: Listen to your Amazon Music Library, Prime Music, TuneIn, and iHeartRadio.


So those are the ones built-in, but it can stream from your phone as well.
So basically the same stuff I can play on my phone.

But heck, I requested an invite. I'm a sucker for Bluetooth speakers, but I don't see paying $99 for this.

Originally Posted by fumanstan View Post
I know, I like pointing it out
True, some people in this subforum may not read the others.
davidh777 is offline  
Old 11-09-14, 11:48 AM
  #43  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
kstublen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 7,750
Re: Amazon Echo

I requested an invite, but I doubt I'll end up getting it. It has a lot of potential, but I don't know how much use I'd actually get out of it since I don't use Amazon for my music needs.

If there was a way to use the Echo to control my Sonos speakers though, then I'd be all over it. I do like the apparent ability to set alarms, timers, and add things to lists with just a voice command.

I know you can change the command from "Alexa" to something else. I wonder if you can change the voice from female to male too. If so, HAL is a no brainer for the command indicator.
kstublen is offline  
Old 11-09-14, 10:37 PM
  #44  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: SnogBox
Posts: 7,160
Re: Amazon Echo

1) Rename to react to "computer"
2) Buy out Logitech and integrate into home theater. "Computers, tune TV to Monday night football."

I see this having some hickups, but great potential. The always on part is the key. I don't use Siri much, but have more lately when I don't have use of hands. Would be even better if always reactive, integrated into other devices, and doesn't choke at half the things you say.
Superman07 is offline  
Old 11-10-14, 11:38 AM
  #45  
DVD Talk Legend
 
sracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Prescott Valley, AZ
Posts: 12,174
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by Decker View Post
I wonder what the deal with the "Invitation" to buy is. If a Prime Member requests an invitation and is turned down, I'm sure he'd be pissed that he'd have to pay double instead. Any explanation anywhere as to who does or does not rate an invite?
Good point. As for why the "invitation"? Maybe I'm cynical but I think it is nothing more than marketing gimmick. Make something restricted and people will want it, even if they wouldn't want it if it were "readily available".
sracer is offline  
Old 11-10-14, 12:55 PM
  #46  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
DaveNinja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Sacramento (The City of a Beer)
Posts: 6,659
Re: Amazon Echo

I want one (and signed up for the invite). I need a bluetooth speaker for the kitchen. I also want a robot to talk to when i'm drunk
DaveNinja is offline  
Old 11-10-14, 01:05 PM
  #47  
DVD Talk Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: frass canyon
Posts: 16,249
Re: Amazon Echo

I wonder how long it takes to "boot up" when you turn it on.

If someone doesn't want it to be listening all the time could they plug it into a wall outlet connected to a light switch?
RoyalTea is offline  
Old 11-11-14, 03:47 AM
  #48  
DVD Talk Gold Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 2,556
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by RoyalTea View Post
I'd get this bitchy version of Alexa:

The reaction of her, oh okay after telling her about the tablespoons is perfect.

That's a very good point, unless she did zero baking all her life someone of any adult age would likely know that.
Xiroteus is offline  
Old 11-11-14, 09:46 PM
  #49  
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
 
Obey The D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Northern NJ
Posts: 8,617
Re: Amazon Echo

If you close your eyes while watching the video you'd think Drew Barrymore played the mom.
Obey The D is offline  
Old 11-12-14, 07:50 PM
  #50  
DVD Talk Limited Edition
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Lake Ridge, VA
Posts: 6,211
Re: Amazon Echo

Originally Posted by Tracer Bullet View Post
I would probably use Siri a lot more if I didn't have to hold down the home button to activate it. So I can see the point.
If your iPhone is plugged in, saying "Hey Siri...." activates the feature.
SunMonkey is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.