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Old 09-02-13, 10:34 PM
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Microsoft buys Nokia

it's been rumored for months and months. now it's official: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/news/...ncementPR.aspx

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/micros...031642393.html
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Old 09-02-13, 11:09 PM
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Re: Microsoft buys Nokia

Well, that means somebody will make Windows Phones.
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Old 09-02-13, 11:21 PM
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Well, that means somebody will make Windows Phones.
Now, if they can only find a way to purchase market share.
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Old 09-02-13, 11:39 PM
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I wasn't aware MS could afford Nokia. I guess this is Bellmar's last big deal for MS.
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Old 09-03-13, 12:52 PM
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It seems like a bailout for Nokia. I've never really seen how this improves the situation for Microsoft at all.
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Old 09-03-13, 01:04 PM
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I wasn't aware MS could afford Nokia. I guess this is Bellmar's last big deal for MS.
Microsoft has a lot of cash, with much of it overseas, which they cannot bring back to the US without paying a large tax. I think they will be paying for Nokia with that cash.
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Old 09-03-13, 04:18 PM
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I wasn't aware MS could afford Nokia. I guess this is Bellmar's last big deal for MS.
Microsoft has about 77 billion dollars in cash and cash equivalents (ie short term Treasuries). Plus the last time and only time they issues bonds it was a absurdly low rate.
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Old 09-03-13, 04:28 PM
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For a while it did look like MS was going to bail out Dell, too.

Why doesn't Apple just buy Samsung then? Apple has the cash.
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Old 09-03-13, 06:16 PM
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Apple can't afford to buy Samsung anymore now that they are basically equals. I mean, they might be able to, but it could potentially cost them all their cash.
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Old 09-03-13, 07:22 PM
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Apple doesn't have enough cash to buy Samsung (market cap of $180 billion, and you'd have to pay a huge premium to get a successful company like that).

And, there is that small issue of anti-trust, among other things.
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If apple buys Samsung, another competitor week emerge. I don't really see the advantage. Carriers will want to push anything non apple, because it costs them less. For example, both the iPhone and Moto X sell for $200 on contract, yet the iPhone costs the carrier 70% more than the Moto X
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Old 09-04-13, 09:17 AM
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This is a move intended for the European market. It's no secret the EU has massive issues with Microsoft.
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Old 09-04-13, 11:39 AM
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Good for both of them, Nokia has done nothing lately in the US until their involvement with Windows Phone, and they make good hardware which should benefit Microsoft.

I still really like Windows Phone and would want to give them a shot one day...
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Old 09-06-13, 05:07 PM
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This move is very similar to Google's purchase of Motorola. Granted, it took a few years before the first phone (Moto X) out of that purchase officially emerged.

Microsoft hasn't had success in the phone arena as of lately, very similar to that of Google's "experiments" with launching their own phones to little or no fanfare. What better to make an attempt to succeed other than to control both the hardware and software?

Also, the writing was on the wall the moment Stephen Elop took over as Nokia's CEO. This hasn't been rumored for months. This has been in the cards for years...
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Old 09-06-13, 06:25 PM
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Nokia makes a quality phone, and I think if they went Android they would have been incredibly successful.

Also, from my understanding the Nexus 4 was surprisingly popular, but it is strange that Google owns Motorola, but LG is making the current Nexus 4 and upcoming Nexus 5 - which is now known to have a 5" screen, much like the S4 so it is not a Note-style phone. Makes that whole "refresh of the Nexus 4 going to Motorola" seem a tad redundant.

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For a while it did look like MS was going to bail out Dell, too.

Why doesn't Apple just buy Samsung then? Apple has the cash.
What everyone else said, on top of that Samsung isn't struggling so it would be a hostile buy out. Samsung also deals in Kitchen appliances, televisions, a little automotive, etc;

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Old 09-06-13, 06:39 PM
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And the Nexus 7 was a huge hit. I think the move was only similar in the "software company buys a hardware phone manufacturer" but all the reasons and other circumstances are far different between Microsoft and Google's situations, in my opinion.
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