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Old 01-04-11, 12:21 AM
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CES 2011 (Jan 6-9) - Official Discussion Thread

CES is about to kick off again this year and there's buzz about a lot of different things.

HTC is definitely unveiling some things (the HTC Knight/Evo Shift for sure, perhaps an LTE handset for Verizon (Incredible HD?)).

The Playstation Phone will probably see the light of day, along with many, many other gadgets.

Here's the exhibitor directory.

What are you most looking forward to at the show?
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Old 01-04-11, 01:41 AM
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I hope Palm gets their shit together and reveals something cool. At least a new tablet.
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HTC Thunderbolt seems all but a given, with their "First to 4G" ads.
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I'm hoping for some good dual-core CPU phones with nice, large Super AMOLED screens and 4G to come to Sprint. But I'm prepared to be disappointed.
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Old 01-04-11, 07:23 AM
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Vizio has already started putting out press releases for new sets, phones and tablets. The latest news this morning is that they will release two 16:9 sets at 50" and 58" sizes.
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Old 01-04-11, 08:12 AM
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1080p tablet with hdmi input please.
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Old 01-04-11, 08:27 AM
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the NDA's around Sandy Bridge expired yesterday. it's looking very nice. tests from anandtech show that a 17" cheapo laptop beats the 13"MBP in battery life. AMD announced Fusion as well. $500 cheapo laptops now run for over 6 hours.

time for apple to think of another gimmick to keep their Mac prices where they are

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looking forward to hearing about all the Verizon 4G phones.
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Old 01-04-11, 09:42 AM
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looking forward to hearing about all the Verizon 4G phones.
Speaking of 4G, how about ATT's recent ads for "the nations fastest network"? I don't understand how they are allowed to say such things when it's not true. Maybe I'm reading into their message too much.
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They all claim similar crap. I think in actual real world test, ATT was the fastest at some point for 3G, but that was only when you weren't dropping calls/data.
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I'm planning on going. Anyone else gonna be there?
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Old 01-04-11, 10:10 AM
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whatever issues AT&T had 2 years ago have been fixed

my average data speeds on my iphone are over twice as fast as the average verizon data speeds that have been reported in tech blogs last year
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Sounds like Microsoft has a set-top box planned to compete with Apple/Google TV. Should be interesting, since, IMO, they've redeemed themselves (mostly) with Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7.
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Sounds like Microsoft has a set-top box planned to compete with Apple/Google TV. Should be interesting, since, IMO, they've redeemed themselves (mostly) with Windows 7 and Windows Phone 7.
I guess they don't feel like a Xbox can fill that gap. That or they want to get distance from the notion of a gaming console. You think they could sell an Xbox without the disc tray on the cheap since they've already R&Ded the Xbox interface and content deals.
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I guess they don't feel like a Xbox can fill that gap. That or they want to get distance from the notion of a gaming console. You think they could sell an Xbox without the disc tray on the cheap since they've already R&Ded the Xbox interface and content deals.
Perhaps there is someone out there who enjoys movies, TV, music, and comic books, yet thinks that video games are a big waste of time and won't support them in any way.
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^ Or, they don't need an Xbox in every room with a TV. I imagine that an "Xbox without gaming capabilities" would not require the same hardware, and thus would be priced much better. If the 4gb 360 now sells for $199, and most of the R&D for the gaming console can be used for this mystery set-top box, the price could end up being very attractive, no?
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I don't think the R&D for a gaming console will match up very well with what Microsoft comes up with at all, especially given it looks like any streaming media based content is going to be based off the embedded version of Windows. Entirely different software and hardware versus the XBox360.
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only reason it won't match up is if another division other than x-box is doing this and want all the glory. just like the Kin and Zune. the x-box has the software to do everything a set top box needs to do and more. only downside is the hardware is a bit old and gets too hot.

and this would be a perfect opportunity to demo hardware that is going to be in the next version of the x-box
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Glory has nothing to do with it; that's silly. The 360 was built as a gaming system first, with media capabilities after once streaming media took off. While i'm sure some aspects of the software will be similar as far as look and feel, the hardware would be drastically different given the custom 3 core CPU and ATI graphics chip in the 360 versus a set top box that would be typical PC components running a special version of Windows. Also, it's more likely that it's just software that Microsoft is licensing out like Google TV versus a custom built hardware solution like the 360 is anyway.

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Im looking forward to the LG 2011 bluray players with the new netcast thats supposed to have an official plex client
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The vizio website has been updated with all the releases.

http://www.vizio.com/ces.htm


For the true cinematic experience, it's the ultra-widescreen HDTV that displays movies as filmmakers intended for the silver screen! Glorious 21:9 Cinema aspect ratio with 2560 x 1080 Cinema HD resolution.
Interesting. Of course there's no media in 2560x1080 yet.
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I really wouldn't want such a TV. The majority of media is 16:9 now. I don't see TV shows or videogames going to 2.35:1 any time soon. And, legacy 4:3 material would get dwarfed on such a screen.
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My prediction: this and any other 21:9 TVs remain a very niche product if they last any time at all. The gain in resolution is minimal. The content that could theoretically take advantage of that minimal gain is limited to just some movies for the foreseeable future. On a practical level, a modification of the BD spec or a new format entirely would be required to have an applicable source for that content.

Who is the target market exactly? It seems like it would be aimed at the CIH projector crowd....but they already have CIH projectors with screens bigger than these TVs.
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Yeah, a projector with anamorphic lenses is a better option.

I guess it's for people that:

- Really love movies
- Can't setup a projector screen.
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Originally Posted by Raul3 View Post
Yeah, a projector with anamorphic lenses is a better option.

I guess it's for people that:

- Really love movies
- Can't setup a projector screen.
Yeah, but even those people will have to wait for a source that offers them anything more than the elimination of horizontal black bars. Zooming a 2.35:1 movie from a current BD to fill the 21:9 space offers no gain in resolution (and potentially introduces more artifacts).
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