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Old 01-13-01, 04:52 AM
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In the BIOS for my ASUS motherboard, I get a message that says:

floppy disc(s) fail (40)

It is recognizing my floppy(3.5/1.44), and I have it set to R/W.

What could the problem be?
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Old 01-13-01, 09:41 AM
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Things to check:

1) BIOS settings... Check the settings in the setup and make sure it is correct. Example: if you have 1 or 2 floppies and what size(s) it(they) are.

2) Double check and make sure the power cable and data ribbon are hooked up correctly to the floppy drive.

If both these are correct, then you might want to try another floppy and just in case, a floppy cable. If it still doesn't work, you may have a problem with the drive controller on the motherboard.

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Old 01-13-01, 11:19 AM
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I did check everything Dead mentioned. The floppy WAS reading fine, but I'm not exactly sure what happened to cause the error.

Any other suggestions??
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I did check everything Dead mentioned. The floppy WAS reading fine, but I'm not exactly sure what happened to cause the error.

Any other suggestions??



Did you try using another drive? If not, that would be helpful. You would know if you could eliminate the drive as being the problem.

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sorry i forgot which asus board do you have and which bios version?
also what setting do you have marked for the floppy.
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Old 01-13-01, 03:13 PM
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sorry i forgot which asus board do you have and which bios version?
also what setting do you have marked for the floppy.



I have a CUSL2 with a 933-P3. The floppy settings are at 3.5"/1.44MB, and it's set to R/W. Is there something that maybe I overlooked when setting up the BIOS that has to do with the floppy?

Dead-sorry I don't have another floppy drive to check it with....could pick one up, but this one actually does work, I just get that BIOS message(but it DOES work!)
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Old 01-13-01, 03:47 PM
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Have you gone into your BIOS and resaved the settings?
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Old 01-13-01, 03:49 PM
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Have you gone into your BIOS and resaved the settings?




yep. Everything I set-up is still there, just as I put it in.
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Old 01-13-01, 03:59 PM
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Well, I could do my 4KRG impression: "What do you want a floppy for? Get rid of it!"

OK, since you have explicitly RESAVED your BIOS settings, not just looked at them, let me look at my settings.

Under Main
Legacy Diskette A [1.44M, 3.5 in.]
Legacy Diskette B [None]
Floppy 3 Mode Support [Disabled]

Under Advanced -> I/O Device Configuration
Onboard FDC Swap A & B [No Swap]

And I assume you haven't excluded any IRQ's in the BIOS, right?
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Old 01-13-01, 10:03 PM
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Well, I could do my 4KRG impression: "What do you want a floppy for? Get rid of it!"





ummmm

NO


but nice try

Floppy drives are a necessary evil

dvdsteve does your BIOS have an option to load everything back to defauts?

If yes give it a shot, save it, reboot.

do you have the latest BIOS?
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OK, I checked what X had up there, and I have the same settings.

Ken, I set the defaults, re-booted, and I'm getting the same message.

Do I have the latest BIOS? ...umm, I'm not sure?
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Old 01-13-01, 10:25 PM
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So the floppy works. then as long as you can live with the boot up error message then i might not worry about it. if you put a boot disc in the floppy does it boot to the floppy?
maybe the drive is in the process of failing so at bootup you are getting this error. i looked at a site for your motherboard and did not see a mention of a floopy error as being a problem.
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Old 01-13-01, 10:31 PM
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Ooops...the floppy DOES NOT WORK!!! I repeat, THE FLOPPY IS NOT WORKING!!!!!!!!!!! It is being recognized on my BIOS, though.
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OK, let me ask if this could have anything to do with the problem...

A. Floppy drive connector-only has the one floppy.

B. IDE connector(Main)-has master, then slave hard drive.

C. IDE connector(secondary)-has CD-RW, then DVD-ROM

Now, the power supply cables are in two groups, each with 2 IDE connectors, and one 'floppy' sized connector. I have one set going to both hard drives, and the floppy connector going to floppy(drive A); and the OTHER set going from the CD-RW, then the DVD-ROM, leaving the 'floppy' connector hanging.

Now, should/could it matter that the floppy connector that is bunched with the two hard drives is connected to the floppy? I was going to try the floppy connector on set 2, but it didn't reach because I have a 4 bay tower, and my two CD-ROM drives are at the top, and I didn't want to move the bays down unless I absolutely HAD to.
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Old 01-13-01, 11:35 PM
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Power connections do not matter as long as they work and are connected

Are you sure you have the floppy cable on correctly? Pin 1 of the cable matches with Pin 1 on the drive? (do you need to ask, How do I tell where pin 1 is?)
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Yeah, I'm sure. Just doublechecked.
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Yeah, I'm sure. Just doublechecked.




The red (or other color stripe) on the cable is easy, but how do you tell where pin one is on the floppy drive itself? This is a test

edited to say I am really beat, going to bed catch you tomorrow....


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I assumed it was in the corner that there is a 'missing' pin 2 pins away from it?
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You can always turn the cable around the opposite way and try it. Sometimes it works that way.
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if you are sure everything is conected right maybe it just died. beg ,borrow or buy another floppy to put into your computer. if that one works then you are set. if not then we will have to put on our thinking caps again
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if you are sure everything is conected right maybe it just died. beg ,borrow or buy another floppy to put into your computer.



Yeah. A really good way to do it is go into CompUSA or Best Buy and take the floppy out of the box and put it into your jacket. Nobody, even the droids that work there, would believe that you stole a floppy drive! And the chances of getting caught are about 3.7% because it doesn't set off the sensor.

Then try it out and you can return it the next day, into its empty box that you got it from, if you feel guilty. If you don't feel guilty, return it the day after.
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If they stopped you I can see the news article. Poor man goes so low as to steal floppy drive. We have set up a fund to help this poor man. Send your donations to Floppyless Man in care of Bank of America
Since the modern bios allows you to boot from cdrom drives do you really need a floppy?
Could he just change the boot sequence to go from cdrom to hard drive and just either use his win 98 cd or make a bootable cd?
Or is this not possible due to some limitation in windows?
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You still need a floppy drive, even in this day and age, so there's no point trying and getting around it. Have you tried using a different floppy cable? It could just be a cabling problem. Or, try plugging the floppy into the "other" channel of the cable. Then try swapping the cable around and trying it in every conceivable orientation, and if that doesn't work... worry...
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Old 01-14-01, 08:49 AM
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I assumed it was in the corner that there is a 'missing' pin 2 pins away from it?



Ahhhhh I see you get your technical information from Anandtech

Look at the circuit board under the floppy cable, you will see a series of very patterned solder points (34 to be exact, in two rows) look carefully at the board around these pins you will see a little (really little usually white) 1 or 2 or a little 33 or 34 silkscreened onto the board itself. Obviously the 1 or 2 would denote where pin one on the cable should go, and the 33 or 34 means pin one should go to the other end.

Now what do you do if there is no little number anywhere or you are too drunk to read numbers Well look at the shape of the solder points, yes the shape (remember kindergarten ?) There will be ONE solder point in each and every set of solder points (in this case your set of 34) that has a square base, all the others will be round (look closely) the square one is pin one, this holds true for all cable connections and even jumper blocks (old school electronics designation)

See now you learned something 99% of anandtech.com has never heard of, you can go over there and act like a big shot when someone says pin one is always near the power connector

Oh yeah I forgot to say swaping the cable around is a good double check you won't hurt anything.

Does the floppy seek at all during boot (green light come on for any reason at all during boot)????

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Ahhhhh I see you get your technical information from Anandtech

Look at the circuit board under the floppy cable, you will see a series of very patterned solder points...

Now what do you do if there is no little number anywhere or you are too drunk to read numbers Well look at the shape of the solder points...



Gee that sounds like a lot of work!

Is it no longer possible to just hook the darn thing up and watch the access light? In the past, a reversed cable would cause the access light to come on and stay on. I'm too lazy to take one of my newer machines apart to find out.

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