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Old 12-24-09, 01:37 PM
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Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Hi,

Many systems these days get sold with 6GB RAM or more (10 - 12)?
Why so much RAM? I understand that requirements grow over time, but in XP for instance, this has no sense.

So, does Windows 7 actually allow you to use more RAM (I assume it does)? And, if so, which applications currently gobble up so much RAM?
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Buy a system for 2 years down the road, not what you think you need now.

Buy as much RAM as you can afford in any system you use.

Yes, 64 bit OS's can and do use more RAM.

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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

We put 64GB in a couple of servers earlier this year.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

32gb of ram is so cheap now it doesn't make sense to buy anything less for a server
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Originally Posted by al_bundy View Post
32gb of ram is so cheap now it doesn't make sense to buy anything less for a server
I understand putting lots of memory in servers. We got a couple of VM servers at work with 64-128 GB RAM.
For workstations though, especially in a home environment, I haven't seen any applications (Photoshop set aside) that use more than 2GB or so, hence my question.
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Originally Posted by LolaRennt View Post
I understand putting lots of memory in servers. We got a couple of VM servers at work with 64-128 GB RAM.
For workstations though, especially in a home environment, I haven't seen any applications (Photoshop set aside) that use more than 2GB or so, hence my question.
Well, that's likely because you're using a 32 bit machine, in which case you really won't (generally) see an app using more than that...

As more and more PC's go 64 bit, you'll see more and more apps start to take advantage of the capability of 64 bit machines to use more memory.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Since RAM is cheap now and manufacturers probably took some heat for low RAM with shitty Vista performance, it seems like they wised up and are defaulting to 4 GB now which is a good thing. You see 6 GB a lot because of Triple Channel memory now with new Core i7 systems.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Originally Posted by LolaRennt View Post
I understand putting lots of memory in servers. We got a couple of VM servers at work with 64-128 GB RAM.
For workstations though, especially in a home environment, I haven't seen any applications (Photoshop set aside) that use more than 2GB or so, hence my question.
Encoding H264 video from these new hard drive based camcorders uses a ton of RAM. Quad core processors are nice too.
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Originally Posted by Jason View Post
Encoding H264 video from these new hard drive based camcorders uses a ton of RAM. Quad core processors are nice too.
And flash based camcorders. That's what I use mine for. I have a quad-core i7 processor with 8GBs of RAM for just that reason.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Ive got 8gb in my work desktop (along with 2 x quad core procs) and I can definitly tell the difference over my home machine with 4gb
of course, I have to run a 64bit OS to take advantage of it, but well worth it
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

2GB is optimal for Vista/7 IMO

4GB is better if you play games and such (makes tabbing out and back in much easier...SSD helps also).

6GB is overkill. But I had 2GB and added a 4GB kit to go to 6GB about a year ago for $25 AR IIRC Couldn't resist. RAM prices have gone up quite a bit though since then.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

meh.. memory is still pretty cheap
if watching deals.. you can still get 4gb for 30-40$ without much effort
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Windows 8 (2012) should have support for 128-bit computers, so I expect another big bump in ram sizes.

Flash memory are still the same prices as about a year ago. And most hard drives are still slow.

But yeah, I've got 2 GB RAM and that's plenty for me on XP.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
Windows 8 (2012) should have support for 128-bit computers, so I expect another big bump in ram sizes.
I can't wait. I'm feeling constrained by the 16 exabyte RAM limit imposed by the 64-bit architecture.

(Windows 64-bit Home editions are limited to 16 GB of RAM for licensing reasons, but it has nothing to do with waiting for 128 bits.)
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Aside from just needing more RAM period, Vista and Windows 7 will put your remaining RAM to use with Superfetch, caching files.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Originally Posted by stevevt View Post
I can't wait. I'm feeling constrained by the 16 exabyte RAM limit imposed by the 64-bit architecture.

(Windows 64-bit Home editions are limited to 16 GB of RAM for licensing reasons, but it has nothing to do with waiting for 128 bits.)
Well, I wasn't saying we'd need to max out on the ram, but to have 128-bit machines on the market should at least bump up common ram sizes and Windows 7 is the last Windows OS to support 32-bit. So 64-bit machines will finally be more common.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Originally Posted by Ranger View Post
Well, I wasn't saying we'd need to max out on the ram, but to have 128-bit machines on the market should at least bump up common ram sizes and Windows 7 is the last Windows OS to support 32-bit. So 64-bit machines will finally be more common.
I didn't pick that up from what you wrote, but it definitely makes sense.
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Re: Am I behind - aka: why so much RAM?

Everybody should have at least 4GB in their machine. Machines that come with 6GB are because they are using DDR3 for triple channel. I have 12GB in my home PC. Definitely useful when I use Photoshop. Not even a hiccup.

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