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Old 10-26-07, 03:10 AM
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Fireproof Box Recommendations for Digital Products??

I'm always thinking that I am "safe" when it comes to back-ups of all my data - I have everything on the computer, everything on 2 different external drives and then every time I get another 4 - 4.3 GB of new photos, data, etc. I burn that data to DVD. HOWEVER!!! If my apartment ever burns down - then EVERYTHING is gone. My situation (living in a foreign country) is not conducive to "off-site storage". Any recommendations on a good fireproof box for back-up DVD's?? I just completed a bunch of research and discovered that the average "fireproof" safe is guaranteed to keep the contents below 350 F. Is that okay for DVD's?? I mean - it seems pretty hot to me.

Another question - why are these fireproof boxes only guaranteed for 1 year? Is the fireproof material which they are made of subject to deterioration over time or what??

Thanks a bunch in advance.
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There really is no such thing as fire proof. There is fire resistant, even the best of which are only rated for 2 hours of exposure before they fail. If you're going to purchase such a safe in the hopes of saving something like DVDs which have a fairly low melting point, I would think it would be a waste of money. If you want to guarantee your data survives in case of a disaster of some sort, there aren't many options outside of offsite storage.
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Okay, thank you Thrush, I appreciate your response. Guess I'd better get myself one of those little Buffalo Mini-Stations or something and copy everything to that and bring it in to the office and then take it home and synch it about once a week.
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you could also just copy everything to an online backup service

http://www.idrive.com/

Much better than betting on a fire safe
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I've been looking to buy a safe, and although it seems like there are some that will protect your CDs, DVDs, for a while. Like these Sentry safes are rated for 2 hours up to 1850 degrees F.

http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/p...ail.aspx?s=188
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Gambit: I noticed this when I downloaded the owner's manual at sentry safe:

ETL verified fire claim
For models starting with: MS, DS, CS, OS, KS
ETL verified for 1 hour fire protection of CDs, DVDs, memory
sticks and USB drives up to 1700F.

For models starting with: MA, DA, CA, OA
ETL verified for 2 hour fire protection of CDs, DVDs, memory
sticks and USB drives up to 1850F.

This was not something which I had noticed earlier when I looked at the sentry website. Thanks for making me go back to their website.

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Originally Posted by danwiz
Another question - why are these fireproof boxes only guaranteed for 1 year? Is the fireproof material which they are made of subject to deterioration over time or what??
This is likely more financial/actuarial/insurance/business than it is science. The guarantee means they pay you some money if the box "fails" within a year. They're betting the box is gonna work and/or you're gonna wait longer than a year to have your fire.
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Another question: How much heat can a CD/DVD endure?? They state that the INTERIOR of the box will not exceed 350 degrees F. That seems pretty hot to me. I mean, assuming that the CD/DVD is in a jewel case, even if the CD/DVD itself doesn't melt, won't the jewel case melt and render the CD/DVD useless? I have no idea!
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Originally Posted by 4KRG
you could also just copy everything to an online backup service

http://www.idrive.com/

Much better than betting on a fire safe
Similar to what I do ... I use SyncBackSE and sync certain directories online. My computer can shit the bed and I can download and be up and running in a matter of hours.
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Originally Posted by danwiz
Another question: How much heat can a CD/DVD endure??
I have seen reports that claim as high at 80 C - I am not sure I believe that though
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Originally Posted by 4KRG
I have seen reports that claim as high at 80 C - I am not sure I believe that though
Hot coffee/espresso is 80C+ and is drinkable by human beings. So a piece of plastic able to handle 80C doesn't sound unreasonable to me.
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4KRG: If you read the threads over in the DVD Talk Forum you see people recommending others to place problematic DVDs into a pan of boiling water and boil them for a few minutes. Several people swear that this cures many of the problems with DVDs which have problems playing. So, they can surely withstand temperatures as high as 100 C.
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- cool

It's just never anything I have worried about
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I was just searching for a fireproof hard drive option and stumbled upon your thread. I went to the sentry website and saw these new fire resistant Hard Drive products.. Any thoughts?

http://www.sentrysafe.com/products/b...cumentSecurity

It seems some of the safes have usb internal hard drives and some of them have fire resistant enclosures.

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