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Old 06-01-06, 10:40 AM
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Email correspondence taking 6-8hrs to yahoo friend

Think there is anything I can do about this? On both our ends last few days it takes us 6-8hrs to get email messages. While I love to blame his web based account since I have roadrunner perhaps there is alot more to then just bias
Old 06-02-06, 01:10 AM
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Do you have the same problem when writing with others?
Does your friend?
can you email to another person on a yahoo account with no problems?
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Perhaps Homeland security is "checking your spelling".
Old 06-05-06, 04:24 PM
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I would think it's something on Yahoo's end. Once you type your letter or note, and hit send, it's Yahoo's problem. It sits on their server, until you or your buddy signs on, to get your mail
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Originally Posted by emoxley
I would think it's something on Yahoo's end. Once you type your letter or note, and hit send, it's Yahoo's problem. It sits on their server, until you or your buddy signs on, to get your mail
Not necessarily.
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Nazgul...........
Enlighten us please, as to where else it sits?
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Not that I'm Nazgul, obviously, but the email protocol is more complex that was originally suggested.

Basically when you hit send the message is uploaded to your ISP. Included with your message is an address. Your ISP resolves the address then calculates a route from it to the address. The route could be direct or via one or more intermediary servers. At each intermediary server the message is similarly analysed then passed on. Until eventually it gets to the server of your friends ISP. That server then places a marker identifying the message as being available in your friends input mailbox space. In due course your friend then detects the message, sees its from you and downloads it (or just deletes it, depends on how well you get on with your friend )

So there's several things that need to occur

1. Upload to Your ISP

2. Your ISP parse address and determine optimal route

3. Your ISP send message to next server in route

{{{{{{{{{{{{ Repeat as Necessary }}}}}}}}}}}}}

4. Upload message to Next Server

5. Server parse address and routing info, checks routing still valid (servers can go down). If route isn't valid server will regenerate route.

6. Server sends message to next server in route

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

7. Friends ISP Receives Message

8. Friends ISP Parses Address and Places Notification in Friend's Mailbox

9. Friend Downloads Message


Delays in emails can occur when for some reason either

a) the shortest server path between ISPs is very long

b) large quantities of traffic on route delaying transit

c) any server on route overloaded

d) any server that calculates route doing a poor job and creating an unnecessarily long route (basically the same as case (a) but due to error not network design)

... and so on

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Old 06-07-06, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by davidoflondon
Not that I'm Nazgul, obviously, but the email protocol is more complex that was originally suggested.

Basically when you hit send the message is uploaded to your ISP. Included with your message is an address. Your ISP resolves the address then calculates a route from it to the address. The route could be direct or via one or more intermediary servers. At each intermediary server the message is similarly analysed then passed on. Until eventually it gets to the server of your friends ISP. That server then places a marker identifying the message as being available in your friends input mailbox space. In due course your friend then detects the message, sees its from you and downloads it (or just deletes it, depends on how well you get on with your friend )

So there's several things that need to occur

1. Upload to Your ISP

2. Your ISP parse address and determine optimal route

3. Your ISP send message to next server in route

{{{{{{{{{{{{ Repeat as Necessary }}}}}}}}}}}}}

4. Upload message to Next Server

5. Server parse address and routing info, checks routing still valid (servers can go down). If route isn't valid server will regenerate route.

6. Server sends message to next server in route

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

7. Friends ISP Receives Message

8. Friends ISP Parses Address and Places Notification in Friend's Mailbox

9. Friend Downloads Message


Delays in emails can occur when for some reason either

a) the shortest server path between ISPs is very long

b) large quantities of traffic on route delaying transit

c) any server on route overloaded

d) any server that calculates route doing a poor job and creating an unnecessarily long route (basically the same as case (a) but due to error not network design)

... and so on
That's about it.

Thanks
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So, a web based email account (yahoo, hotmail, etc.) still has to go to YOUR isp, even though your mailbox isn't with them?
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Thanks for feedback, it seems down to 30mins now so I cant complain.
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Originally Posted by emoxley
So, a web based email account (yahoo, hotmail, etc.) still has to go to YOUR isp, even though your mailbox isn't with them?
The process, no matter where the mailbox is hosted, is roughly the same. When you hit 'send' from a web based acct, it still has a few hops before it makes it out to the 'Internet'.

Email, while sometimes fast, can have bottlenecks.
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Usually email routing (if you look apart from the actual TCP/IP layer) is somewhat direct.

Ie.. you either click send on a webgui or use your outlook thingie.. that then connects to a SMTP server that will then attempt to deliver to the recipient after looking up the corresponding SMTP server for that domain in a MX record.

True SMTP servers then can route to sub servers etc, but usually its fairly direct.

Exceptions apply..

Anyway, we're not helping here Did we get responses to who can send to whom?

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