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Old 08-05-05, 07:16 PM
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looking for a good video card

needed for online gaming (like counterstrike and stuff like that) - dont want it too expensive but a decent one thatll get the job done.

and what are some good websites to buy from?
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what price range?

we are discussing the best bang for the buck here:
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=430542

if you want to go 150, instead of 75.. then the geforce 6800 is the way to go
Old 08-05-05, 10:04 PM
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I'd recommend a Geforce 6600GT or a Geforce 6800.
Old 08-06-05, 01:59 PM
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stupid question but how can i be sure the video card will work in my computer? last time i bought one, it couldnt be inserted into my computer tower.
Old 08-06-05, 02:42 PM
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You would need to find out what your current computer supports first. Right now, you'll see different types of connections. PCI Express, AGP, and PCI. What model and manufacturer is your current system?
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if you only want to play cs and other low-requirement games, then go for a radeon 9600. if your willing to dish out around $150 then go for a 6600gt
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Originally Posted by atari2600

and what are some good websites to buy from?
www.newegg.com
www.zipzoomfly.com

I would also recommend any 6-series NVidia card.
Old 08-07-05, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by fumanstan
You would need to find out what your current computer supports first. Right now, you'll see different types of connections. PCI Express, AGP, and PCI. What model and manufacturer is your current system?
i think i have intel 82865G graphics controller (96 MB).

should i be going for 128 MB or 256 MB?
Old 08-07-05, 03:32 PM
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and whats the diff between "PCI" and "PCI express x16"?

and what defines its "power"? the MB or the other number - e.g a 128 MB radeon 9200...what does the 128 MB mean and what does the 9200 part mean in terms of performance?

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PCI is the old type of card slot.. pretty much every system as at least one, some have 3-6 of them
those are the beige slots above your isa (long black slots, assuming you have isa)

agp replaced using old fashion pci cards years ago

and pci-express is the newest technology.. it is replacing agp now

you have pci slots.. thats pretty much a given
the question is whether you have an agp or pci-express slot

give us some information about your machine

mb is megabytes.. 128mb is pretty much standard now.. there are alot of 256mb cards as well, but the extra memory isnt being used much by games yet.. and wont be used at all by business applications..

the 9200 is just an ati model number.. just like the 6200, 6600, 6600gt, 6800, etc.. are number numbers for nvidia geforce cards
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Originally Posted by twikoff
PCI is the old type of card slot.. pretty much every system as at least one, some have 3-6 of them
those are the beige slots above your isa (long black slots, assuming you have isa)

agp replaced using old fashion pci cards years ago

and pci-express is the newest technology.. it is replacing agp now

you have pci slots.. thats pretty much a given
the question is whether you have an agp or pci-express slot

give us some information about your machine
what information do you want and where can i find it - im not exactly a computer expert i know the basic stuff but not much more.

how can i figure out what types of slots i have.
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Download the freeware version of Lavalys Everest. The motherboard section will give you all the information you need re: what type of slots you have on your MB.
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Originally Posted by matome
Download the freeware version of Lavalys Everest. The motherboard section will give you all the information you need re: what type of slots you have on your MB.
ok i did that - now which part tells me what slots i have? i know i have PCI but no idea if its express or not or if i have AGP or not.

i cant comprehend what this program just spat out

also, im having a very hard time finding any decent video cards for PCI and 128 MB.
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you dont want a pci card
you either want agp or pci-x
unless your system is REALLY old

what type of computer do you have?
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Originally Posted by twikoff
you dont want a pci card
you either want agp or pci-x
unless your system is REALLY old

what type of computer do you have?
Isn't it possible his motherboard has integrated video, and NO AGP slot? In that case, he'd HAVE to go PCI.
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Originally Posted by twikoff
you dont want a pci card
you either want agp or pci-x
unless your system is REALLY old

what type of computer do you have?
its a dell, less than a year old.
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Originally Posted by joeblow69
Isn't it possible his motherboard has integrated video, and NO AGP slot? In that case, he'd HAVE to go PCI.
yep
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Originally Posted by atari2600
its a dell, less than a year old.
whats the make/model?
optiplex or dimension.. and what model number..
this info can be found on the front, normally around the power button

and/or

whats your service tag number
this is a alphanumberic number on a sticket on the box of your machine.. This gives the most information about your particular machine.
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A quick question...I currently have a ATI 9600 Pro. I'm thinking of upgrading but don't have much to spend, not more than $150 - $175. Would I see any benefit upgrading to a Nvidiea 6600GT? While I can play most games with my ATI card, I can't turn on a lot of the eye candy, especially with newer games. Thanks.
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Would I see any benefit upgrading to a Nvidiea 6600GT?
Yes, you would see a significant benefit in going from a 9600Pro to a Geforce 6600GT or a Geforce 6800. You can buy a 6600GT online in your price range. If you look hard enough, you can find the 6800 in that price range.

Here's one from newegg.com for $164, brand new. It is an AGP card.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150068

It took me 5 seconds. PCIe card may be a bit more expensive. Go to pricegrabber.com and do a search.

Here's a new 6600GT for $173.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814127147
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Originally Posted by atari2600
ok i did that - now which part tells me what slots i have? i know i have PCI but no idea if its express or not or if i have AGP or not.

i cant comprehend what this program just spat out

also, im having a very hard time finding any decent video cards for PCI and 128 MB.
Go into the Motherboard section of Everest:

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Okay...most of the Nvidia cards require the 300W power supply. My comp does not have that. Is it better to get a different card or to swap out power supplies...and if it is easier to swap out the power....how difficult is it to install a new power supply.

I thought my fiance's comp would have at least a 250W power supply, but I checked it and it's only 160W. Mind you, the comp is 2 years old.
Old 08-23-05, 08:54 AM
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ATX Power supplies are pretty much standard unless you happen to have a small-form (cube) case. Pretty much just four screws holding the thing in.
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Originally Posted by Tygan
I thought my fiance's comp would have at least a 250W power supply, but I checked it and it's only 160W. Mind you, the comp is 2 years old.
Wow. I have a 6 year old computer with a better PSU than that. Seriously, get a new Power Supply.

Swapping it out is easy, but annoying. Removing the PSU is simple, but detaching all the cables and then reattaching them all to the new one is a real pain. It's not difficult, just time consuming.

I recommend at least a 400W unit. If you're going to run anything modern, spend the money on a name brand like Enermax or ThermalTake or Antec. A 420W will run around $40 or so, a 520W would be around $60. If you're going to be running any kind of serious action, then you want to start comparing features. Dual 12V rails, that sort of thing. That's where it gets expensive. My latest power supply for my new high end box cost me $160. Well worth it, but that is a major box right there.

Anyway, a 160W PSU won't cut the mustard. Modern high end gaming cards can use 80W at peak load. The less expensive ones still can use large amounts. So you're going to need a new PSU if you're serious about a gaming graphics card.
Old 08-23-05, 02:21 PM
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Brands like Seasonic, Antec, Enermax, and OCZ all make great power suppplies. Personally, I like the Antec brand. The Antec TruePower 2.0 is my model of choice in the Antec line. Just do a bit of research, maybe read some reviews, and look at places like newegg.com.

Like Otto, I'd also recommend at least a 400 watt supply no matter what your computer is for. A strong, stable power supply assures your computer of running smoothly.

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