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Old 11-10-04, 10:26 PM
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The End of Winamp/Nullsoft

Article over here on BetaNews about Winamp pretty much being on its last legs. A shame to see

http://www.betanews.com/article/Deat...amp/1100111204
Old 11-10-04, 10:50 PM
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did nullsoft ever make any money? or was their plan to simply give crap away until the VC money ran out and ask for more?
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I think they sold like 12 copies of Winamp 5.

Winamp was never about sales. Winamp was first about free software, and then it was about promoting AOL. I never understood situations like the latter, where marketroids assume that an affiliation alone will translate to more sales. But it kept the project going, so mission accomplished.

In fact, their mission was accomplished back around 1997. They released a stable, low-impact, easy-to-use, robust media player. What more was there to do, really? I never understood why they chose the bloatware route, why they crammed in a mini-browser and tons of junk that no one ever uses. It was a complete waste.

The disappointing thing is that there are ways to improve Winamp - they just weren't explored:
  • Auto-organization
  • Checksumming for error detection/correction
  • Better ties with freedb (e.g., automatic downloading of lyrics)
  • Easy streaming (tighter integration with SHOUTcast)
  • MP3 sound restoration (like DFX)
  • Automated recommendations (Winamp watches the tracks that you play, and then provides suggestions for music you'd probably like)
  • Intelligent, dynamic generation of playlists ("play me something happy but slow")
Any of those would've added a great deal to Winamp. But, no, we got enhanced skin support and a mini-browser. (sigh)

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Old 11-11-04, 01:14 AM
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That's a shame. But, that's what they get for selling out. WinAMP will be around for years, even without official support. There are plenty of plugins to add functionality. And Nullsoft won't be forgotten, thanks to their extremely popular and extremely powerful freeware installation system. (http://nsis.sourceforge.net/)
Old 11-11-04, 01:40 AM
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Winamp has always been the only mp3 program I have used. Now what am I going to use
Old 11-11-04, 02:42 AM
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I still use WINAMP 2.51 ...works great and I use it for my MP3s only. Will continue to use it
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shit. I still use 2.09
Old 11-11-04, 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by al_bundy
did nullsoft ever make any money? or was their plan to simply give crap away until the VC money ran out and ask for more?
Nullsoft made lots of money when AOL bought them. AOL however, lost lots of money.
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Originally posted by shaun3000
That's a shame. But, that's what they get for selling out.
No, what they got was around $100 million
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Originally posted by tanman
Winamp has always been the only mp3 program I have used. Now what am I going to use
mmmm..... winamp?
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could they make the code open-source and just have the prog continue to live on the net?
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I was one of the few people who actually paid for Winamp nearly 6 years ago. When the question of the free upgrades for life promise was laughed at, I lost interest. I built a new PC a few months back and never even bothered to install it.
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Still use Winamp.. plays MP3, SPC, NSF, OGG.. what more would I need?
Old 11-11-04, 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by Jeremy517
Nullsoft made lots of money when AOL bought them. AOL however, lost lots of money.
AOL was like the most stupid company i've ever seen.

they bought netscape and nullsoft and never did anything with either one. they simply let both brands languish until they died off.
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Wow I never realized Frankel had left the company. I still remember when a new version of winamp would be released to the hordes on #mp3. I think the earliest version I had was somewhere around .8 or .9. I still use Winamp daily and I don't think that will change anytime soon, even if I don't approve of the way the program has bloated over the years.
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Originally posted by AndyCapps
I was one of the few people who actually paid for Winamp nearly 6 years ago. When the question of the free upgrades for life promise was laughed at, I lost interest.
Yeah, that was pretty weak.
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I really don't see any reason to switch. Winamp 2.x basically does everything I want, quickly and stably. It would take a software marvel to get me to use anything else.

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I used to check winamp site daily for updates... not anymore, and my winamp5 is already several versions behind the their new release.

You could really feel something when they refused to add .cue support.

Now I spend much more music time on foobar2k.
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Winamp 2.95 still is my MP3 player of choice and I have no plans to switch. Fuck AOL for being the big dumb baby Hueys of the internet.
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I stoped using winamp a long time ago. media player is fine by me.
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Still run Winamp 2.x everyday. Never had a problem with it and will never upgrade to their latest version. Been using Winamp for MP3s since 1998.

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