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Old 06-05-04, 08:28 AM
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Ok, I kind of built a PC, now I need help

So I finally moved my CPU to a new motherboard and case, man what alot of work. I then transferred everything else.

The PC booted ok, which was a relief. The CPU didn't melt....yet

I heard it takes 10 seconds to fry if you did it wrong and the PC has been on 10 minutes and so far so good.

So my questions are:

I keep getting a "Activate Windows now" message. I thought I already activated it on the old PC. Doesn't it go by hard drive? Or am I going to have to buy a a new copy of XP?

I am getting this weird alarm noise when I close the nag screen from the hmonitor program (the program that monitors the temp)
I thought it might be a temp alarm so I checked the BIOS and the CPU is 38c, which seems normal. On my old PC, the CPU never got higher then 65c, and that was during hardcore gaming.
Anyhow, the alarm stops when I restart, but comes back when I close the nag screen again. I just end up ignoring it, but what does it mean?

My Norton AV says the trial period expired. What is up with that? I bought the full version of Systemworks 2004, so why is it all of a sudden expired? Does changing motherboards alter your registration and stuff?

Last but not least, I could use some help on finalizing the connections on the motherboard. For some reason the USB ports on the back aren't working (everything else is, including the 2 front usb ports) and I am not sure if I have all the LED indicators plugged in or not.

Forgive me, I'm a n00b

I'll really excited I didn't mess this up (at least I don't think I did) as I figured I'd have found some way to screw things up
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Old 06-05-04, 08:38 AM
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The XP activation goes by more than your hard drive. A CPU/motherboard change will definitely register as a new configuration. Just call up the number and they'll activate it again for you with the new config. I've had to do this a few times and they don't give you a hassle.
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I tried calling the number and it says they don't recognize the product.
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What does it mean when it says CPU is unworkable or has been changed?

Keep getting this weird alarm, this time a different one. The PC shuts down and the alarm just continues.

CPU temp still normal.
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Old 06-05-04, 09:26 AM
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Another thing I noticed....it is saying my PC is 1.75 gHz, I could have sworn it was over 2.0 gHz before....

It's an Athlon Xp 3000+

The HP rep says I can't reactivate Windows, I have to put my old motherboard back, what the heck?

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Old 06-05-04, 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
Another thing I noticed....it is saying my PC is 1.75 gHz, I could have sworn it was over 2.0 gHz before....

It's an Athlon Xp 3000+

The HP rep says I can't reactivate Windows, I have to put my old motherboard back, what the heck?
I would call Microsoft and see what they say. I don't know anything about OEM installations of Windows.
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another reason why XP sucks, especial OEM versions from people like HP, Sony, etc
as for the cpu it's probably set wrong in bios
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Old 06-05-04, 01:31 PM
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There are two types of Athlon XP 3000+. One runs at 166 (333) mhz FSB, the other runs at 200 (400) mhz FSB. Make sure it's set accordingly. The 166 mhz version runs at 2.16 ghz (166 x 13) and the 200 mhz version runs at 2.1 ghz (200 x 11). You're probably running at 13 x 133. Change it to 166.
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Originally posted by Alvis
I would call Microsoft and see what they say. I don't know anything about OEM installations of Windows.
I believe with this OEM license (attained from HP, Dell, etc.) the license is only good for that machine. You cannot transfer the OS to another machine. I believe that is true... check your access license
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Originally posted by fumanstan
There are two types of Athlon XP 3000+. One runs at 166 (333) mhz FSB, the other runs at 200 (400) mhz FSB. Make sure it's set accordingly. The 166 mhz version runs at 2.16 ghz (166 x 13) and the 200 mhz version runs at 2.1 ghz (200 x 11). You're probably running at 13 x 133. Change it to 166.
How do I change it?
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Originally posted by jrobinson
I believe with this OEM license (attained from HP, Dell, etc.) the license is only good for that machine. You cannot transfer the OS to another machine. I believe that is true... check your access license
That's what I was afraid of.
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Does anyone have an idea what the alarm means?
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
How do I change it?
There should be a setting in the bios. As for the alarm... 65 C is pretty high. A lot of motherboards have an alarm that is set to go off when it reaches certain temps... mine has it for 60, 65, or 70. I'd be a little worried if its reaching 65 under load.
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Old 06-05-04, 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by fumanstan
There should be a setting in the bios. As for the alarm... 65 C is pretty high. A lot of motherboards have an alarm that is set to go off when it reaches certain temps... mine has it for 60, 65, or 70. I'd be a little worried if its reaching 65 under load.
65c was on the old CPU, this one hasn't been higher then 49c

I looked at Belarc Advisor and it says this:

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1.75 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: http://www.abit.com.tw/ NF7-S/NF7 (nVidia-nForce2) 2.X
Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 12/24/2020
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1 (build 2600)

No idea what it all means....
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Oh and I checked the temp alarms and shutdown alarms and the temp is nowhere near any of them.

Could it be a voltage issue? How do you find out if your voltage is ok, and how to fix it if it's not?
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Here is what I saw in the BIOS:

system temp: 28c
cpu temp: 49c
cpu fan: 4383 RPM
cpu core voltage 1.66v
vcc volt +2.5v 2.62v
I/O volt +3.3v 3.26v
+5v 4.97v
+12v 11.85v
-12v -12.36v
-5v -4.99
3.3 dual voltage 3.50v
standby voltage +5v 4.94v
CPU operating speed 3000+
x external clock 200mhz
multiplier factor x10.5
AGP frequency 66mhz
CPU FSB Ratio Auto
CPU interface disabled
CPU core v 1.65
DDR SDRAM 2.6v
Chipset 1.6v
AGP 1.3v

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Old 06-05-04, 10:47 PM
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Your voltages look fine.

Looks like you're FSB is set at 166 when it should be 200, which explains the 1.75 ghz instead of 2.1 ghz.

No idea what could be setting off the alarm though
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I can't find the setting to change the 166 to 200, any idea how?
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Originally posted by fumanstan
Your voltages look fine.

Looks like you're FSB is set at 166 when it should be 200, which explains the 1.75 ghz instead of 2.1 ghz.

No idea what could be setting off the alarm though
The weird thing is the alarm goes off and I restart a few times and it's gone. Or I go to optimize settings in the BIOS and it is fine. Of course I still get the CPU is unworkable error.
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That CPU interface thing might work maybe....it says if it's set to enabled it'll overclock the CPU. If it's disabled it runs at the optimal settings or something or other.
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Originally posted by fumanstan
Your voltages look fine.

Looks like you're FSB is set at 166 when it should be 200, which explains the 1.75 ghz instead of 2.1 ghz.

No idea what could be setting off the alarm though
I think my FSB is set at 200.
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Old 06-06-04, 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
I think my FSB is set at 200.
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1.75 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: http://www.abit.com.tw/ NF7-S/NF7 (nVidia-nForce2) 2.X
Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 12/24/2020
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1 (build 2600)


That says otherwise. And i believe thats why it says CPU is "unworkable." Not sure what the settings are in your bios to change it though.
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Old 06-06-04, 12:29 AM
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Originally posted by fumanstan
Main Circuit Board
1.75 gigahertz AMD Athlon XP
128 kilobyte primary memory cache
512 kilobyte secondary memory cache Board: http://www.abit.com.tw/ NF7-S/NF7 (nVidia-nForce2) 2.X
Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
BIOS: Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG 12/24/2020
Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 1 (build 2600)


That says otherwise. And i believe thats why it says CPU is "unworkable." Not sure what the settings are in your bios to change it though.
Yeah I noticed it says 166mhz in Belarc but in BIOS the external clock says 200mhz, so which is it?
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Anyone have any idea?
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Hmm, on an unrelated note, my favorites in IE keep disappearing. Well not all of them, but a few do. I went to a tech support site, saved the page, and it added it twice to my favorites list.

Then I deleted the 2nd one, and when I opened another IE window later, both were gone.

I tried this 3 straight times, and all 3 times it was gone after the window was closed.
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