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Old 06-04-04, 03:39 AM
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CPU and Heatsink questions

Ok, so I finally managed to get a new motherboard:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....1&type=product

and a new case:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....9&type=product

Now I need to install the CPU. I have an Athlon XP 3000+ in my old PC that I want to install in this one.

How do you remove the CPU? Is it hard, or does it pop right out? What about the heatsink? I assume there is one on my old PC? Can I use it or do I buy a new one? Is it easy to install?

Sorry for the n00b questions, I just want to make sure I do this right.
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Old 06-04-04, 07:12 AM
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You can probably find instructions with pictures somewhere, but basically, you have to remove the clip(s) holding down the HS/F and lift it off the cpu, and then you will pull up a lever which releases the cpu. Then you have to clean both off and apply more thermal paste before installing it in the new pc.

For a n00b, on the scale of 1 - 10 difficulty regarding installing PC parts... I'd say installing the cpu itself ranks about a 2 and the HS/F can rank between a 3 and a 10 depending on whether the clips decide to be a pain in the ass or not.
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Trigger, are you online, I wanted to ask you a few more questions?
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Where is a good place to buy thermal paste? From a B&M store, not online.

I read that if you make one little mistake installing the heatsink, you're screwed.
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Re: CPU and Heatsink questions

Originally posted by nickdawgy
Ok, so I finally managed to get a new motherboard:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....1&type=product

and a new case:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....9&type=product
By the way - Hope you didn't buy those parts at best buy - the case is like 65 bucks at newegg (100 at BB) and the motherboard is 90 at newegg vs 120 at BB.
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Old 06-04-04, 07:19 AM
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
Where is a good place to buy thermal paste? From a B&M store, not online.

I read that if you make one little mistake installing the heatsink, you're screwed.
If you don't install thermal paste, the CPU will overheat. May be easier to buy a new HS/F with paste already on it. I don't know a B&M that sells thermal paste. I only buy from online places. Newegg will ship stuff out pretty quick - usually get stuff within 2 or 3 days.
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Re: Re: CPU and Heatsink questions

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By the way - Hope you didn't buy those parts at best buy - the case is like 65 bucks at newegg (100 at BB) and the motherboard is 90 at newegg vs 120 at BB.


Yeah I did, I noticed the difference also, but like I said, I didn't feel like waiting. It's only a $50 difference, plus I used $20 in reward zone certificates and got rz points, so it was worth it.
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Old 06-04-04, 07:21 AM
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Originally posted by Trigger
If you don't install thermal paste, the CPU will overheat. May be easier to buy a new HS/F with paste already on it. I don't know a B&M that sells thermal paste. I only buy from online places. Newegg will ship stuff out pretty quick - usually get stuff within 2 or 3 days.
I think I saw some paste at Best Buy for $7, not sure if it was paste or not but it was by the components.

How much do heatsinks go for?
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More like a 65 dollar difference, but who's counting. Anyway - I don't know how much heatsink/fans cost in B&M... but speeze coolers are inexpensive at newegg and good at what they do.
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The only thermal grease I use is Arctic Silver.
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Originally posted by Trigger
More like a 65 dollar difference, but who's counting. Anyway - I don't know how much heatsink/fans cost in B&M... but speeze coolers are inexpensive at newegg and good at what they do.
It's early,

so what is better a heatsink or a fan or are they the same or what?
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Originally posted by Trigger
The only thermal grease I use is Arctic Silver.
Is the grease even required?
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Old 06-04-04, 08:45 AM
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
Is the grease even required?
Thermal grease is definitely required. Don't install without it. Best Buy does cary an Arctic Silver clone, though I'm not sure how good it is. If you have a Fry's nearby you can get Arctic Silver there. Arctic Silver application instructions are here:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_s...structions.htm

Here are some instructions on cleaning your processor:

http://peripherals.about.com/library.../aa062202c.htm

Here are some instructions on reinstalling a heatsink and fan:

http://duxcw.com/digest/Howto/cpu/socka/4.html

I hope you find these of use. I used them when I changed my heatsink and unlocked my cpu.
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
It's early,

so what is better a heatsink or a fan or are they the same or what?
A heatsink and fan are absolutely necessary. If you run your system without either one, your system will last just a few seconds. You should have a heatsink and fan installed with your cpu on your old motherboard right now.
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Originally posted by Alvis
A heatsink and fan are absolutely necessary. If you run your system without either one, your system will last just a few seconds. You should have a heatsink and fan installed with your cpu on your old motherboard right now.
So can I use the current one on the new motherboard?
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So can I use the current one on the new motherboard?
Heatsinks are made to fit a processor/socket type. So, yes, if you are moving your cpu to a new motherboard(if it's an Athlon XP it will be a socket A/462), you should be able to move the heatsink as well.
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Originally posted by Alvis
Heatsinks are made to fit a processor/socket type. So, yes, if you are moving your cpu to a new motherboard(if it's an Athlon XP it will be a socket A/462), you should be able to move the heatsink as well.
Ok, cool. The thermal paste doesn't appear to be in stock at my local Best Buy. Do any other stores carry it, or am I gonna be forced to wait all weekend and then some for Newegg?
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
Ok, cool. The thermal paste doesn't appear to be in stock at my local Best Buy. Do any other stores carry it, or am I gonna be forced to wait all weekend and then some for Newegg?
I don't know what stores are in your area, but I would check whatever computer stores there are besides Best Buy. Is there a Fry's near you?
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Originally posted by Alvis
I don't know what stores are in your area, but I would check whatever computer stores there are besides Best Buy. Is there a Fry's near you?
There is a Fry's in Orange County I believe, which is like an hour from me, but there's closer Best Buys that probably have the knockoff in stock.

Does Fry's have a store locater?
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
There is a Fry's in Orange County I believe, which is like an hour from me, but there's closer Best Buys that probably have the knockoff in stock.

Does Fry's have a store locater?
I would try the other BBs first if they are closer.

Here is the url for the Best Buy stuff:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....6&type=product
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I found some thermal paste made by Antec at Circuit City for $15. Kind of pricey, but it would have costs $4-$5 to ship the Arctic stuff from Newegg, so I'm not out that much.
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How long should I let the PC cool down before I remove the CPU? Also, once I switch, do I just transfer eveything else? Does Windows have to be reinstalled? Will it boot up normally or do I have to do anything different?
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Originally posted by nickdawgy
How long should I let the PC cool down before I remove the CPU? Also, once I switch, do I just transfer eveything else? Does Windows have to be reinstalled? Will it boot up normally or do I have to do anything different?
I don't know, maybe wait an hour. Personally, I would do a clean install of Windows. It would be for the best.

Here are a few more links on building pc's.

http://www.pcguide.com/buy/req/buying_Building.htm
http://www.pcmech.com/byopc/
http://arstechnica.com/guide/building/

I would take a good look at these and the other links I posted before you start. And remember, Google is your friend. Good luck.
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Thanks for the links. I managed to build one, I just have a few problems to take care of now.
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