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Old 05-04-04, 11:48 AM
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Just a friendly warning to all who download movies.

I work for a telephone comany and we provide cable and DSL internet to our customers. We are a small company that only has 60 broadband customers. In the past month we have started getting emails from our ISP about internet abuse. Our ISP was contacted by Columbia Pictures and the MPAA about our customers downloading copyrighted material. They knew the filename, the name of the movie, the customer's IP address, and what program they used to download the movie. I didn't think they could find all of this out. I used to think Bittorrent was anonymous that they can see you using that as well. I don't know what our ISP does with the information we give them about the customer. We have had 4 customers caught so far this month. I don't know if they call and warn them or if they forward it to the MPAA. They haven't canceled anyones service though. So just a heads up to those that do it. I've stopped. Doesn't sound likes it's worth the chance to me.
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There's nothing to stop the MPAA or anyone else from starting their own Bit Torrent tracker and offering BTs. That way they can keep track of every IP that connects. Or they can use one of the many experimental clients to hop on someone else's BT and gather all the IPs they connect to. BT is meant to be efficient, not anonymous.
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Yep. The #1 myth about BitTorrent is that it provides an anonymous way to download files.
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Premium newsgroup providers allow anonymous downloading.
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Old 05-04-04, 01:11 PM
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get your movies from irc, folks--harder to track dcc transfers.
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Originally posted by peon73
get your movies from irc, folks--harder to track dcc transfers.
I second that, except I really haven't been wasting my time with it lately.
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Old 05-04-04, 02:22 PM
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Premium newsgroup providers allow anonymous downloading.
You've got to wonder how quickly they'd fold when presented with a supeona.
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Old 05-04-04, 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by peon73
get your movies from irc, folks--harder to track dcc transfers.
I like to get my movies from Netflix, but they're probably tracking that too.

Damn RIAA!!!
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Old 05-04-04, 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by Groucho
You've got to wonder how quickly they'd fold when presented with a supeona.
I agree, everything is a risk. But with Newsgroups it's much harder for the MPAA to track or monitor what your doing without close interaction of the provider. Plus with Web interface, and the fact that many providers are outside the US, I'd say Newsgroups would be a better choice than most of the peer-to-peer groups.
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Old 05-04-04, 02:51 PM
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On a slightly more serious note, I've always wondered how groups like the RIAA and MPAA will approach those who download copyrighted materials from an ISP's newsgroups since it seems to me that the ISP itself is storing this stuff for its customers. Or is that not how newsgroup servers work?
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Old 05-04-04, 03:09 PM
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You've got to wonder how quickly they'd fold when presented with a supeona.
Faster than Superman on laundry day.

I don't believe it's in the advertisement on their site (why would it be?), but I recall someone asking them about it on their discussion board and they stated clearly that they would comply with any lawful request for user information.
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Old 05-04-04, 06:08 PM
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Thanks for the warning. But I have to close this as people are being so nice and helpful in discussing how to illegally get copyrighted materials.
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