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Old 12-05-03, 02:58 AM
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Decent new PC MB/CPU/RAM combo?

Since I probably won't be headed to Vegas for CES in January, I was thinking of using the money for a new PC (my current PC is over 3 years old, and it's about time for some new hardware for me):

Has anyone tried:

Abit IC7-G motherboard
Intel Pentium4 2.4C GHz 800FSB CPU
Corsair XMS Extreme Memory Series (184 pin 512MB DDR PC3200)
Old 12-05-03, 04:29 PM
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So no one has any experience with this combo of parts?
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I like the memory and have a couple of the non-Extreme modules. From what I could see there was no reason to go "Extreme". The CAS timings looked the same and the non-Extreme overclocks very well with the fastest CAS timings my (and probably any) motherboard allows. Extreme really looked like the same module with a different name but it cost more than the $117 I recently paid.
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So you like Corsair's Value Select brand of RAM? I give it a looksie. I don't even know if I will OC, but I just like knowing I could from a tested brand of RAM by spending a little bit more. Of course, it'd be nice to know others get good OC results using the non-Extreme RAM too.

From the looks of it, if you want to OC, low latency might be the way to go, but that does add more cost...

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Nope. It wasn't the Value Select. It was XMS, just not Extreme.

Let me look it up.

Ok, here's what I thought you were talking about:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=80097-30

It's not Extreme, it's ProSeries. I got the name confused. Is the XMS what you're calling Extreme? I hadn't seen the word Extreme added to XMS.

The ProSeries has LEDs to show memory activity and says "This memory has been verified to operate at DDR400 (200 MHz, 2-3-2-6)." The XMS says "memory has been verified to operate at 200MHz (2-3-3,1T command rate) and 166 MHz (2-2-2,1T command rate)." mine runs fine at 2-2-2 at at least 185 MHz, but I'm running at 171 due to CPU overclocking constraints.

Maybe you should get the quicker timing module since you are indeed running at at least 200 MHz. Like this one:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=80097-13

The regular XMS that I have is here:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...ctCode=80097-1

except I got the black colored heat spreader. It was a couple bucks cheaper.

Jeez, it's getting hard to pick the right one out. Low latency, LEDs...
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I believe the X in XMS = eXtreme.

I'd probably go with this one (twinx to get matched pairs, over the cmx singles), to get up to 1GB of RAM to start off with:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=80097-15

(BTW the ZipZoomfly price for the RAM above is $17 less than Newegg. Whoa!)

But I've read that the Pro series is OC'able as well:

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Produc...tCode=80097-18

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Originally posted by Patman
(BTW the ZipZoomfly price for the RAM above is $17 less than Newegg. Whoa!)
That's why I like those guys.

Yeah, that looks good. The ProSeries just adds LEDs from what I can see. But it also appears they have non-low latency ProSeries so you have to be careful selecting the right one.

I have the non-low latency non-ProSeries. It's overclockable, but you're starting at 200 MHz and I'm starting at 166 MHz. So it's possible you'd have to up the CAS settings if you got too high.
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Why does it have to be Friday when I finalize my PC parts selection? Oh well, I guess I'm all set, except for looking for a new PC case now...
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I found Antec cases to be a good deal with great power supplies.
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I'm used to a big case with 5 5.25" drive bays, but nowadays those are harder to find under $100. I may just live with 4 5.25" drive bays and look for a case with a 400W+ power supply.
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I feel the same way.

I have a 4 bay one and it's filled!
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I know it's not an Antec, but is this case overkill?

I like green.
Old 12-06-03, 07:21 AM
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Am I dumb not to shell out the $39 more and get the P4 2.8c for $213, over the P4 2.6c for $174? I guess I look at it as it's 20% more, but I'm only getting less than 7% more in CPU speed.

I totally missed that the 2.6c was only $3 more than the 2.4c yesterday, so that is a no-brainer.
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I've officially pulled the trigger on my new PC parts purchase.

I made a concession and went with less expensive Kingston HyperX PC3200 1GB RAM (2x512) because it was $189 (after tax) from Kinston's website directly vs. $251 at ZipZoomFly, and $268 at Newegg for the Corsair RAM.

I got the Intel P4 2.6c Retail version for $170 ($1 less than the 2.4c version due to a small 1 day sale). (plus free paperweight from newegg)

I used the savings from the RAM and went with the Abit IC7-MAX3 motherboard for $198 (plus free t-shirt from newegg)

I got the Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600 128MB video card for $120 (plus free baseball cap from newegg).

I got the Aspire Alien Green PC server case (5 5.25" drive bays) for $110 (plus a free paperweight).

I'm done for now with online ordering, everything will probably be local purchases (floppy drive, TV tuner card, hard drives).

Whew, my mouse pointer finger is tired from all this shopping...
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Now the wait is killing me...

I wound up cancelling the Sapphire 9600 Radeon card, and opting for an ATI 9600 Radeon card off Ebay for $10 less.

I have received the case (it's really light in weight, compared to my old steel server case), the motherboard, and the CPU. My officemates did like the case, though. They were impressed by the cooling features, and the internal drive bay setup (turned sideways 90 degrees from conventional bay mounts).

I am waiting on the RAM (Kingston finally sent me a Fedex tracking number, and it appear it will take another few days which might bleed into next Monday..grrr), and also the video card.

Just to get me started, I did pick up a 120GB 7200rpm 8MB WD hard drive at Circuit City yesterday.

Me loves newegg...speedy shipping, for sure.
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Finally got alll my PC parts in the house, and spent this afternoon putting it all together.

I jumped on another Liteon 411S DVD burner drive for $80 after MIR from Best Buy, and I also went for a 120 GB Maxtor SATA hard drive at CompUSA for $110 after MIR this morning. I wanted to sample the speed of SATA, so I thought this was a good time to introduce SATA into my PC setup. I also picked up a DVD-ROM drive from Office Max this morning for $10 after MIR. Since it was so cheap, I bought, just to offload any non-burning tasks to this DVD-ROM drive.

I really liked the new case once I got used to how things were set up in the case.

Currently, I'm in the middle of loading XP on it...
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You're not going to get much of any speed increase out of that Maxtor SATA. It's essentially a normal (but very good) EIDE drive with an SATA interface.

You have to get a Raptor with a 10K rotational speed and much faster average access speed to really take advantage of SATA.

Check the benchmarks.

http://www20.tomshardware.com/storag...hd-250-07.html
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Oh well, chalk it up to an impulse buy.

I'm typing this post from the new PC. At the stock 2.6GHz, it's pretty speedy.

Now comes all the driver and XP updates to download and install...
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The speed of page loads has been dramatically increased with this new PC. I click and the page shows up. Neat.

I was impressed that I wired everything correctly the first time around as everything came up as normal as could be.
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The Liteon DVD burner drive I got from Best Buy is a 451S, not a 411S, so the firmware update program won't upgrade it. Doh! Liteon's website doesn't even list the 451S model, nor has a firmware for it. Crossing my fingers its November manufactured date means it's got the later/latest firmware to fix the compatibility problem with some blank DVD media.
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The latest firmware for the 411S is 11/17 so you may very well be ok.

However your 451S is rumored to have the same chipset as the 811S and may possibly allow you a software upgrade to that model.
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Hmm...time to go looking for the 811S firmware...

Any idea why I'm not getting any Windows related audio through the PC speaker? I hear it beep once upon bootup sometimes, so I'm pretty sure the speaker is connected to the right motherboard pins. I'm using the motherboard's onboard audio chipset. I've loaded from the motherboard CD the ALC650 Realtek drivers.

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