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Old 01-28-03, 11:27 PM
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Should I buy a new processor like I killed, or upgrade?

If you have been lucky enough to have read of my recent exploits you know that I am now the proud owner of a dead 1.4Ghz Thunderbird. What I am wondering is should I just buy a new 1.4 tbird (as that is the higest that my mobo will run( abit KT7-A)) or go all out and upgrade them both.

I went to pricewatch and check the prices of new 1.4's and the 200 FSB costs 131 and the 233 FSB is like 70 at the lowest priced places. Knowing that I will buy them from some place that has decent feedback I will have to pay more then the prices that I posted. First off, why the heck does the 200 cost more then the 233? Isn't it better to have a higher FSB?

Well, onto the topic... Should I go out and get a new mobo and chip (knowing that I will have to go from my old ram to DDR which raises the price even more) or just buy a replacement 1.4 Thunderbird? For the cost of a new 1.4 TB I can get a XP 2200. Is the newer chips that much better then what I had?
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I can't find much info about your mobo, but if you're sure that that's the highest it can handle then I'd say get a new mobo. You could get an cheap but goodie EPOX/ECS board for like $50 that can handle the faster CPUs like the 2600+ , so you could avoid having to upgrade the mobo so soonsome of them support both DDR and SDRAM, but not at the same time. Then I'd get a 1700+ TBird. I think I saw on at newegg for $74. http://www.newegg.com gcribbs and Shuki are the AMD experts though.

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Old 01-28-03, 11:57 PM
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Yea, the 1.4 is the most it can take as it is a rev.1 board. If I had a rev. 2 or 3 I would be able to flash it to get it to accept xp chips. Guess that is my punishment for getting it when it first came out on the market.
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call up abit, they'll do an RMA for you and give you a higher revision board that will support tbreds Then head over to newegg and get one of these fantastic xp2100 tbred "b" chips Hitting 2300Mhz right out of box on air cooling
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Will they still do that if its out of warranty?
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the multiplier is higher on the 100 FSB chips(200Mhz bus)

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1.4 Ghz is 14x 100=1400

the 133 FSB cpu (266 Mhz bus) is 10.5

10.5x133=1396.5 or 1400

so if you overclock. Move the FSB on the 200 Mhz bus chip up to 133( assuming you have the cooling)

14x133=1862

of course you will probably not be able to get it that high. if you are not going to try extreme overclocks them the 133 FSB version might be the best to get


You might get lucky with an RMA on the board especially if you never sent in the warranty card.

Thanks for the vote of confidence Ranger I like and use AMD CPU's however I am sadly no expert
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I really like ASUS MB's because they have always worked well for me.

Asus A7S333-E SIS745 is an inexpensive XP motherboard that is $69.99 with free shipping at Newegg


The Asus A7N266-VM AA (AMD Assured Version) NVIDIA nFORCE 220 Chipset for $71.99 shipped free is also a good deal. It does have a weak built in video card(Geforce 2 MX) however it includes an AGP port so you can bypass it.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...tby=14&order=1


as far as being worth it to upgrade. It is really up to you. since you need a new cpu anyway at least you are not throwing away everything. maybe you could sell the old MB with the 700 Mhz cpu to make some money back.

what would I do? get Asus Motherboard for AMD Athlon/XP/Duron Processors, Model# A7N8X Deluxe Retail for $144.99. If i am going to upgrade I would get the best chipset I can right now. Since it is your money only you really can decide if it is worth it to you

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Originally posted by Ranger
Will they still do that if its out of warranty?
if higher board revisions offer tbred support then yes, Abit should do it as an RMA. My kx7-333 does not offer tbred support but I can RMA it for a ver 1.1 that adds tbred support Abit really does have top class customer service/satisfaction!
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The only bad thing about retuning the boardis that I would be without a pc for the time it took me to ship it out, and receive a new one. With all the stuff that I do on my pc that is a killer of that idea.
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call abit anyway. for like a $150 security deposit, they send can send you a NEW board and give it back once you mail in old board. Man give them a call... won't hurt anything.

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