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Old 09-03-02, 02:45 PM
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underage e-mail problems ...

I teach 3-6 graders and would like to set them up with e-mail addresses. Most free providers require parents to approve the kids' e-mail. While I'm not against that, it's too much of a hassle for me to tell everyone to go home and ask their parents to set up e-mail for them, especially since I have around 100 students.

QUESTION 1: What is the policy on underage e-mail exactly? Is it ILLEGAL for me to give them e-mail address providers (hotmail, yahoo mail) with false information (tell them that the students are 20 years old instead of 10)?

QUESTION 2: Is there a consent form on line that I can print and give to the kids so that they can take it to their parents? So that the parents can give me permission to act on their behalf and approve the information that the kids will provide to Hotmail, Yahoo Mail, etc?

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Old 09-03-02, 05:26 PM
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You can always ask your school IT dept to set up an email server for you. Just take any old PC, install Linux on it which is free and configure sendmail. Then configure the email clients on each PC to pull email from the new server.

Only cost I can think of is maybe having to register a domain name. But you should be able to piggyback onto your town's DNS system with no problems.
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if you set them up with a free email account.. and then somehow porn spam gets mail to it.. you might get into a sticky situation..

just pointing out...
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I wouldn't use a free email provider, just begging for too many problems, spam, pr0n etc. Second what teplitsa said, you could setup a email server for pretty cheap, that could also be used for other students as well.
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I agree that free email could be a problem due to the way all the free providers sell your address 2 seconds after creating a account
maybe a local ISP would be willing to help?
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Old 09-03-02, 09:37 PM
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Thanks all for your suggestions. The school already has a domain and a server for e-mail, but the school doesn't want to set up e-mail addresses for everyone because it will hog up the bandwidth (it's already too slow).

Maybe I'll have the school pay a couple hundred bucks for another domain and hosting. Yeah, hotmail or yahoo mail for 3rd or 4th graders may not be a good idea ...
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about that porn spam thing. if the email account holders are underage, wont there be some type of block on the porn guys? i mean there has to be a reason why hotmail or something asks for age right?
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Definitely don't use hotmail. I opened a new account a month ago and without giving the address out to anyone, and within a day, I had spam mail. It just grew and grew and grew. So i had to close that account and opened a yahoo account. It's been a couple of weeks and no spam. However, with 3 - 6 graders, I would definitely NOT risk using free email. Too many problems can arise.
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How would a bunch of 6th graders hog up all the bandwidth?
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Originally posted by asabase
How would a bunch of 6th graders hog up all the bandwidth?
That's what I'm thinking ... but the administration said NO to giving the students e-mail addresses under the school's domain. It's not so much that they will hog up all the bandwidth, but that the speed is already too slow.

Anyway, I know that phpwebhosting allows for unlimited e-mail addresses. Any other hosts out there that allow unlimited e-mail addresses for under $10/month?
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How would a bunch of 6th graders hog up all the bandwidth?
warez, mp3 and other file sharing, porn you name it.
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Originally posted by namja
That's what I'm thinking ... but the administration said NO to giving the students e-mail addresses under the school's domain. It's not so much that they will hog up all the bandwidth, but that the speed is already too slow.

Anyway, I know that phpwebhosting allows for unlimited e-mail addresses. Any other hosts out there that allow unlimited e-mail addresses for under $10/month?
I currently use phpwebhosting and I'm not terribly pleased with their email service. The two beta webmail programs work occasionally, and for some reason I can't send mail to several domains, including the UoMichigan. I'm currently shopping for a new webhost, will probably go with dixiesys, as this is just a personal webpage, and I don't need all the bandwidth I'm getting.
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Y'know, when I first saw the subject line of this post, the first thing that popped into my head was 'I didn't know my e-mail had to be a certain age to get to certain places'... ;-)

I can second Dixiesys as a provider - I use them for a few domains, and haven't had any problems. They've been really helpful - if you contact them & explain that you're only looking for a mess of e-mail addys, and no web service, they could probably set up a package for you.
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Old 09-06-02, 02:37 AM
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Originally posted by Dirk
I can second Dixiesys as a provider - I use them for a few domains, and haven't had any problems. They've been really helpful - if you contact them & explain that you're only looking for a mess of e-mail addys, and no web service, they could probably set up a package for you.
I use dixiesys for three of my domains. I didn't think about getting a customized service. I'll try that. Thanks.
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