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Old 08-31-02, 02:13 PM
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I have $400, help me upgrade please

My cousin has $400 and wants to upgrade his current system.

We already have the case picked out and need a 300W PS.

So what we need is a CPU, mobo, video, and ram.

AMD is prolly the path we are taking on this because of the combo deals we see from time to time. Video we have no idea, I'm looking to you guys for this. Same with Mobo. Ram prolly crucial using their 256meg 15%+$25 off deal. PC2100.


Just so you know O/C is not an option so the P4 1.6A is out the window. We are trying to keep this as cheap as possible so $400-$450 is the limit.

Thanks for any suggestions. Also we are prolly going to order most from newegg or mwave unless there is a good cpu+mobo combo deal somewhere.

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Old 08-31-02, 03:51 PM
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Upgrade from what?
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Old 08-31-02, 04:17 PM
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oh...lol I guess that is quite important

He had an AMD K6-2 450 w/ TNT2 ultra video and 128meg of PC100

He's keeping sound, HDD, and everything else.

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Old 09-01-02, 02:23 AM
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Mobo: ASUS A7V333 $118
CPU: Athlon XP 2000+ $85
RAM: Crucial 512 MB PC2100 DDR RAM $132
Video: GeForce 3 Ti 200 $90

Total: $425
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Old 09-01-02, 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by skar
Mobo: ASUS A7V333 $118
CPU: Athlon XP 2000+ $85
RAM: Crucial 512 MB PC2100 DDR RAM $132
Video: GeForce 3 Ti 200 $90

Total: $425
excellent choice...but i would skip the crucial (great memory but too expensive now) and go with two 256mb sticks of pny or kingston with samsung chips. after rebate you can get these for about $35 each. i'd take the extra $62 and put that towards a geforce 4 ti4200 which can be had for less than $150.
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even if he's keeping the old HD, i'd STRONGLY recommend backing up data etc, formatting and possibly installing a new OS. unless you are running winxp or 2000, 512 MB RAM will probably be a bigger headache than a help. if you upgrade OS as well, then you would also have to include that in the price.
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Old 09-01-02, 09:40 AM
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Oh we'll definitely be reinstalling a new OS. Either XP or win2k. I'm running win2k and have been for several years now without a hitch. I've heard mixed reviews about XP so we'll see. It's whatever he wants.

Thanks for the recommendations.
With the memory is there really a need for 512 now? He doesn't photoshop and will probably start playing games but nothing major. Mostly internet puter.

skar where did you get those prices from?
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Old 09-01-02, 09:51 AM
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Originally posted by broadwayblue


two 256mb sticks of pny or kingston with samsung chips.
Any reason for the 2 sticks opposed to one?
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Old 09-01-02, 10:51 AM
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skar where did you get those prices from?
Motherboard - newegg
RAM - newegg (it was 2x256, I forgot to mention it)
CPU - pricewatch ($95 at newegg)
Vid Card - pricewatch ($113 at newegg)

Save the money on the RAM (256 should be fine, he can always upgrade after RAM prices drop), the other brands are fine and I didn't notice the large price difference.

Get a nice Heatsink/Fan, I use and recommend the Thermaltake 6 Cu (not +) $11 at newegg.
Get a solid PS, any of the good name brands like Antec, Enermax, and Sparkle.
With the purchase of an Athlon at newegg, you can get a Anti-Static Wrist Strap for only $3.
Unless he already has a pimp sound card, just use the 6-channel onboard audio.
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Old 09-01-02, 11:03 AM
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Well he already has the SB Live but only uses 2 channel speakers so it really doesn't matter so to speak.

Also what about the retail fan that comes with the Athlon processors? Good enough to use. He won't be o/cing but I do know they tend to run hot.

That is too funny you mentioned the anti-static strap. I haven't heard anyone mention one of those for years. Guess I'm old school and just touch the power supply before sticking my fingers in there Though the strap is probably the correct way to do it.
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Originally posted by kantonburg

Also what about the retail fan that comes with the Athlon processors? Good enough to use. He won't be o/cing but I do know they tend to run hot.

That is too funny you mentioned the anti-static strap. I haven't heard anyone mention one of those for years. Guess I'm old school and just touch the power supply before sticking my fingers in there Though the strap is probably the correct way to do it.
The price I quoted for the CPU was OEM. I like the Thermaltake a lot more than the stock AMD one, and $11 is about the OEM/retail price difference. (I don't even think newegg carries the retail version.)

I like the Anti-Static Wrist Strap. It is well made, and the price is awesome. But it isn't necessary.
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Cool thanks. I found a 1900+ retail at newegg and the 2000+ was OOS (retail)

Either way the final decision is to him. I guess I'm the advice leader but I'm so far out now I look to you guys.

Any thoughts on the Radeon 8500LE 128meg? I have the AIW 7500 64meg and love it. It's 115 at newegg and the biggest perk is the 128meg. This IMO would be perfect for him. For the games he would play. He's not a huge FPS player just mainly EA Sports stuff like football and golf.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old 09-01-02, 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by kantonburg
Oh we'll definitely be reinstalling a new OS. Either XP or win2k. I'm running win2k and have been for several years now without a hitch. I've heard mixed reviews about XP so we'll see. It's whatever he wants.

Thanks for the recommendations.
With the memory is there really a need for 512 now? He doesn't photoshop and will probably start playing games but nothing major. Mostly internet puter.

skar where did you get those prices from?
i recently purchased a 1.8ghz system from dell during their $340 system super sale. unfortunately it was so SLOW with the factory installed 128mb of ddr memory i had to buy more. i was intending to do so anyway but i was not prepared for how sluggish the system would be. after i added a 256mb stick last week (384mb total) the speed is much improved. as it turns out windows xp requires a minimum of 128mb to operate and as i learned that was not nearly enough. i would suggest you start with at least a 256mb stick and if it's not enough you can add another later on.
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Instead of that Geforce3 ti200 get a Radeon 8500 for the same price. Also, don't count on that 300W PSU being enough. If you have problems the PSU should be the first thing to check. You should probably upgrade to 430W.
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I think we have settled on the radeon 8500. Good overall card for his needs.

So no 300W? All he has is a cdrom and burner? That and any future upgrades will be a 2nd PC. I see your point but there is quite a jump in price between 300 and 430.
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All he has is a cdrom and burner?
And the GPU and the CPU right? Those need alot of power, especially AMDs.
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Originally posted by kantonburg
I think we have settled on the radeon 8500. Good overall card for his needs.

So no 300W? All he has is a cdrom and burner? That and any future upgrades will be a 2nd PC. I see your point but there is quite a jump in price between 300 and 430.
as long as you go with a quality ps (antec, sparkle, etc.) a 300w should be more than enough. even for amd systems. if you're worried about it you can jump up to a 350w.
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