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Old 08-24-02, 04:30 PM
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Looking for a computer.. is this good???

I know basics about computers, and before I buy one I like to make sure I am not getting jipped on some of the lesser known parts.

Let me know if all this stuff is a good deal for $520 shipped

Pentium IV system complete with Tower case and 431 Watt Power Supply. 128 Megs of DDR.
Floppy Drive, 60 Gig 7200 RPM Western Digital Drive. ECS P4S5A-DX mainboard with Audio, Lan and SDram support.

Case, drives, keyboard and optical mouse are all black in color.

System can either come pre-assembled or brand new in the factory sealed boxes.

PRODUCT OVERVIEW The P4S5A-DX mainboard has a Socket 478 processor socket for Intel® Pentium® 4 type of processors supporting FSB (front side bus) speed up to 533MHz. This mainboard uses the SiS 645DX & SiS 961 chipset which supports built-in AC97 Codec, 2 DDR SDRAM and 2 SDRAM modules up to 2GB system memory, and provides Ultra DMA 33/66/100 function. This mainboard has one 4X AGP slot for highly graphics display, one AMR (Audio Modem Riser) slot to support Audio and Modem application, and 10BaseT/100BaseTX Network Interface.

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATION Processor: · Intel Pentium 4 processor (478-pins).

Chipset: · SiS 645DX & SiS 961 chipset; · SiS 645DX Host/Memory controller with AGP4X North Bridge Single Chipset; · SiS 961 MuTIOL Media I/O; · LPC I/O -- ITE8705F; · System Hardware Monitor -- Integrated in ITE8705F; · LAN: MAC Integrated in SiS 961 & PHY on board; · AC97 Audio Codec compliant with AC97 2.1 specification.

Memory: · 2 DDR DIMM Sockets and 2 DIMM sockets support (can not be used simultaneously); · Two 184-pin 2.5V DDR SDRAM (DDR266/200) or Two 168-pin 3.3V SDRAM (PC133/PC100); · Maximum 2GB (DDR SDRAM or SDRAM).

System BIOS: · AMI 2MB Flash EEPROM; · Supports Plug and Play 1.0A, AMP 1.2, Multi Boot, DMI; · Full support for ACPI revision 1.0 specification.

Integrated I/O Functions, Ports, Headers: · Supports Plug and Play function; · PS/2 keyboard and PS/2 mouse connectors; · Dual USB Ports and LAN connector; · One EPP/ECP mode parallel port; · Two 16550 high-speed serial I/O port; · Audio Ports (Line-in, Line-out, Mic-in, CD-in and game port); · Supports 360K~2.88M Byte, 3 Mode FDDs or LS120; · Dual PCI IDE interfaces - support four IDE devices (PIO mode 4, DMA Mode 2, Ultra DMA66/100); · ATX Power Supply Connector; · IrDA header; · Front Panel MIC/Line-Out Header; · Two Extra USB header; · HDD LED, ACPI MSG LED, Reset Switch, Power Switch headers; · CPU, Case and Power Supply Fan headers; · LAN Card Wake Up Header.

RTC & Battery: · SiS961 built-in 256 byte of CMOS SRAM; · With CMOS hardware clear jumper.

Expansion Slots: · 5 PCI slots; · 1 4X AGP slot; · 1 AMR slot.

Form Factor: · ATX -- 12.0" x 9.6" (305mm x 244mm), 4Layers.

System comes with a Lite-ON CDR-RW Drive at 48x16x30.

GeForce 2 Video card with 64 Megs of Video Ram and TV Out Connector. PixelView GeForce2 MX200 is powered by nVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 GPU which succeeds GeForce2 GTS's breakthrough 3D architecture and offers the high 2D/3D performance at mainstream price point.

With it's full features like transform & lighting, per-pixel shading, advanced video processing and 64MB SDRAM, you will experience powerful and realistic 3D world. Now the PixelView GeForce2 MX200 visual world is easy access at affordable price.

PixelView GeForce2 MX200

256 bit GPU + GeForce2 Graphics Power + 64MB

Hardware Specifications

nVIDIA GeForce2 MX200 GPU, 256-bit 2D& 3D graphics architecture.

AGP 2X/4X with Fast Writes and Execute Mode

32/64 MB video frame buffer

Integrated 350MHz RAMDAC, resolution up to 2048 x 1536 @75Hz

Integrated 2nd-generation T&L engine

20M triangles/sec through T&L and setup

nVIDIA Shading Rasterizer (NSR) featuring

1.3 GB/sec memory bandwidth

DirectX and S3TC texture compression

Full acceleration for Microsoft DirectX 7 and OpenGL 1.2 ICD.

Support NTSC/PAL TV-Out with flicker filter

Powerful S/W DVD, 3D GAME (optional)

Feature High-Quality 3D Feature:

nVIDIA 2nd Generation 256-bit GeForce2 MX200 GPU.

Integrated 2ND- generation T&L engine.

700-Mtexels Fill Rate.

20M triangles/sec setup.

Order independent Full Scene Multisample Anti-aliasing.

nVIDIA QuadEngine Technology

32-bit color with 32-bit z/stencil.

DirectX and S3TC texture compression.

High Performance 256-bit 2D acceleration:

Optimized for multiple color depths including 32, 24, 16, 15 and 8-bits per pixel.

True color hardware cursor.

Multi-buffering (double, triple, quad buffering) for smooth animation and video.

Video Playback: Enhanced Motion Compensation for full screen video playback of all DVD/HDTV resolutions. Video acceleration for DirectShow, MPEG-1, MPEG-2, and Indeo. 8:1 upscaling and downscaling. Multiple video windows with hardware color space conversion and filtering.

Supported TV-Out: NTSC/PAL TV-Output with flicker filter.
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Old 08-24-02, 05:30 PM
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Seems decent for the price... it depends what you want to do with it... I'd suggest more RAM right off the bat, especially if you will be running WinXP. Also, that video card may not be up to the task for newer games...

Also, I may be missing it, but it never says what speed processor comes in it, if one does at all... All I see is that it is ready for a P4, if you have to buy one yourself, that's another $200.

Anyway, I am far from an expert by any stretch of the imagination... there are some people a lot more knowledgeable than me on this board. Wait to see what they have to say.
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Wow, great point about the p4, I am going to ask that now.

I found out it would only be $60 more to upgrade ram to 512mb
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no not a good deal. the video card is a very low end one 2 generations back.

no P4 installed.

Look for one of the Dell deals and buy it from a good company. right now you can spend a bit more and get a better computer from Dell. This is what I would do.

What company is this anyway??

others may have info on how good the company is.
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I just found out the P4 chip is included in the system.
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The video card really does not bother me, I don't play video games on the pc, or watch movies. Plus that video card is better than my current video card, that I am happy with.
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Originally posted by chiefs1313
I just found out the P4 chip is included in the system.
which P4?

what company is it or is it not an internet company.
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I did not know there was a differance in P4 chips?

I found the deal on ebay, the guy puts together computers, and sells them on ebay.
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Originally posted by chiefs1313
I did not know there was a differance in P4 chips?
P4 Chips

Pentium 4 2.8GHz
Pentium 4 2.53GHz
Pentium 4 2.4GHz 533MHz
Pentium 4 2.4GHz 400MHz
Pentium 4 2.2GHz 400MHz
Pentium 4 2.26GHz 533MHz
Pentium 4 2.26GHz
Pentium 4 2.0GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 2.0GHz
Pentium 4 1.9GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.9GHz
Pentium 4 1.8GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.8GHz
Pentium 4 1.7GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.7GHz
Pentium 4 1.6GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.6GHz
Pentium 4 1.5GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.5GHz
Pentium 4 1.4GHz Sock 478
Pentium 4 1.4GHz
Pentium 4 1.3GHz
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I am emailing the guy now, to find out. I will let you know what P4 chip it is.
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Old 08-25-02, 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by chiefs1313
I did not know there was a differance in P4 chips?

I found the deal on ebay, the guy puts together computers, and sells them on ebay.
so no tech support.


I really would spend a few dollars more and get a Dell.

an ebay computer really is a roll of the dice.

Good Luck

I assume the computer comes assembled some on ebay do not.

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He just emailed me back. It is a Pentium 4 2.26GHz 533MHz.
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Here are prices for some of the components:

ECS P4S5A Mobo $55 shipped
GeForce MX200 64MB $39 shipped
256 MB PC2100 DDR RAM $44 shipped
Western Digital 60GB 7200rpm $76 shipped
Mitsumi Black Floppy Drive $16 shipped
Black Keyboard $19 shipped
Black Optical Mouse $15 shipped
Black Case w/ 400 watt PS $50 shipped

Lite-On doesn't make a 48x16x30 to my knowledge.

Lite-On 40x12x48 $57 shipped

So far, I'm at $371 shipped. Did I forget anything?
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Adding a P4 2.26 GHz 533 MHz $218 shipped.

$589 shipped.

Seems like an excellent deal. Although I do agree with gcribbs about the risk factor.
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I guess I have to just hope nothing goes wrong with it.

Although, in the past getting my computer fixed under warranty was always a pain, and usually took forever, but I still would of loved to have a warranty.
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Originally posted by chiefs1313
Although, in the past getting my computer fixed under warranty was always a pain, and usually took forever, but I still would of loved to have a warranty.
That would depend on who's doing the service.

Once, I had a hard drive crash on my Dell Inspiron 4000 notebook. I called the Dell CS and asked for a new drive. I received the new hard drive in two days (it would have been next day, except that I called them too late in the evening for them to ship it out same day). I returned the defective HD in the same packaging as the new drive that arrived; of course Dell paid postage both ways. This is how most warranty stuff works at Dell.

Other companies will make you ship the computer to them. They will hold it for a couple of weeks to "fix" it, then ship your computer back to you with a new hard drive in it.
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