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Old 06-26-02, 08:41 PM
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Ge force 4 opinion

hey guys, my gf3 card is starting to go sour. what selections of gf4 ti4600's are out there??
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Old 06-26-02, 09:13 PM
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"Go sour"?

A card that recent has no business "going sour." I had an Nvidia Riva TNT card for something like 4 years and it never "went sour." Describe what's happening with it and if it is indeed a hardware problem, get the manufacturer to replace it!!
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Old 06-26-02, 10:55 PM
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well i jus ran a test and its only doing 64% of other cards in the gf3 range...i think its lasted longer than the waranty so i dont think the manu (elsa) would replace it.
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WTF?
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...hreadid=217977
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Old 06-26-02, 11:53 PM
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wtf what? i d/l a newer driver (at least i think i did) and now performance is at 64%. its no 100%
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Old 06-27-02, 12:40 AM
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what do you mean by 64% of other cards?

using a specific benchmarking program?

are you comparing your card to the exact same card?

are the cards you are comparing it to running at default speeds or are they being overclocked?

benchmarks are not perfect. other factors can and do change the results not just the video card.
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Old 06-27-02, 12:46 AM
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Originally posted by Mole177
wtf what? i d/l a newer driver (at least i think i did) and now performance is at 64%. its no 100%
you are using this percentage- based on what???

what gave you this percentage figure?
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wtf what?
Why did you start two threads on the same topic? That WFT.
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Old 06-27-02, 01:33 AM
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Originally posted by Jepthah
"Go sour"?

A card that recent has no business "going sour." I had an Nvidia Riva TNT card for something like 4 years and it never "went sour." Describe what's happening with it and if it is indeed a hardware problem, get the manufacturer to replace it!!
I'm still using a Creative Riva TNT 16meg card! I actually can't believe it myself but it's still fine for what I need it for. Granted I don't get any FPS with stuff like Diablo2 and I don't play first person shooter games at all. Maybe someday ... over the rainbow ...
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Old 06-27-02, 01:37 AM
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well people the percentage (64%) was given from a test ran on pcpitstop.com. what it told me was that it was only running 64% of what the true potential, non tampered speed is... most likely compared to other vid cards in its class.
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Old 06-27-02, 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by joltaddict


Why did you start two threads on the same topic? That WFT.
well, the other thread was initially a posting of my results that the comp had recieved. in this thread, im asking directly what Gf4 card to get.
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Old 06-27-02, 03:00 AM
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Originally posted by Mole177
well people the percentage (64%) was given from a test ran on pcpitstop.com. what it told me was that it was only running 64% of what the true potential, non tampered speed is... most likely compared to other vid cards in its class.
the problem is that they are comparing geforce 3 with similar cpu's and memory- sounds great however we do not know if the ones you are being compared with are overclocked geforce 3's or not.

this is a fun enough program however i would not buy any new video card based on its findings.

from the site:

PC Pitstop's video performance performs a basic test of your system's graphics capabilities and reports the result in millions of pixels displayed per second (MP/s). The percentage indicates the performance of this system compared to systems in our database with a similar CPU, clock speed, and video board. For example, a score of 50% would indicate this system had half the performance of comparable systems; 200% would indicate twice the performance. Determining "normal" performance can be difficult, there can be wide differences due to video drivers even on the same video board.



similar does not mean the same: how much variation do they allow?? do they even check for overclocking??


you say you have a geforce 3-

original geforce 3 or
geforce 3 Ti 200
or geforce 3 Ti500

which brand?

what cpu are you using?

example athlon 1.2 Ghz

what motherboard are you using?

example ASUS A7V133

How much ram? type?

Example 2- 256 MB PC2100 Crucial

as much info as possible.

this way we can figure out if one:

the geforce 4 would be a waste or

two
nothing is wrong with your setup at all.

what types of uses do you need a video card for:
gaming- which games?
video editing-which programs do you use?

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Old 06-27-02, 08:48 AM
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If you do buy a new GeForce 4, I'll buy your Geforce 3
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Old 06-27-02, 10:09 AM
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where are you located at nefarious???

to gcribbs: i thught you would remember my comp from the past posts, here goes:

shuttle mobo 470, p4 1.815ghz, 1.256gb Kingston ram pc2100. elsa gladiac 920 gf3...
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Old 06-27-02, 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by Mole177
where are you located at nefarious???

to gcribbs: i thught you would remember my comp from the past posts, here goes:

shuttle mobo 470, p4 1.815ghz, 1.256gb Kingston ram pc2100. elsa gladiac 920 gf3...
nah too old to remember my name sometimes

http://www.reviewmakers.com/showdoc.php?review=23

this card should be able to run whatever you want to play right now. Supposedly it has a 6 year warranty if it turns out it is failing.

I would try running a benchmarking program like 3dmark2001

http://gamershq.madonion.com/download/?3dmark2001.shtml

run the benchmark and post your score and then we can really see how you are doing.
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Old 06-27-02, 12:08 PM
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I would try running a benchmarking program like 3dmark2001
This is the best answer in the whole thread (no offense to the prior contributors). 3DM2001 is THE benchmarking software for vid-cards. It runs a bunch of demos, pushes your card, ram and CPU to the limits, as well as pixel/vertex shading, and anti-aliasing.

I'm no expert on vid-cards (in regards to specs) but I do know that the vast majority of games out now and coming out in the foreseeable future will run just fine on a GF3ti200 or better yet a Ti500 (that's the card I have). To get a GF4 board would really be wasting cash at this point, because you'll be getting so much more than you'll be able to use - and by the time games come out that will recommend or require a GF4 board, there will probably be GF5's out, therefore driving the GF4 price down to a very affordable level for joe-consumer.

The bottom line - video cards are coming out faster and better than the software demands. My Ti 500 has YET to give me any kind of a problem and I'm running an older driver set (not the install set, but I know I haven't upped them in months). Couple that with a 440BX Slot 1 MoBo and a PIII 1 Ghz chip (100mhz FSB) as well as 768 megs of 100 Mhz SDRAM while running XP Pro - and believe it or not I am blazingly fast! This is with pretty much all of my game setting pumped to the max. If a game were to come out where a GF$ board was recommended, you can even ride the curve more by buying a GF3 board and tweaking the in-game settings down.

There's no need to have the coolest, fastest board - unless you can afford to, which is a whole different ballgame then.

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Old 06-28-02, 09:58 AM
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go order the gainward geforce 4 4200 (great overclocker too) for $148 from newegg
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Old 06-28-02, 11:41 AM
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shuki, i the gf4 4200 in the "ti" or the "mx" class?
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It's in the ti class, the mx cards aren't even really gf4s - they're more like beefed up GeForce2 cards.
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Old 06-28-02, 01:05 PM
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Ti I would never buy mx! http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...ry=1387&DEPA=1

the $148 one only has monitor out. for an extra $10 you can get TV or DVI out too. But for me, I only needed the standard monitor out since my pc gaming is done only on my monitor.
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Old 06-28-02, 01:29 PM
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I just received this very card yesterday. Except I ordered from googlegear.com. It was $147 + .50 cents for 2 day fed-ex shipping. Planning to overclock it in a new system I'm going to build.
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Old 06-28-02, 02:55 PM
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i just got an MSI Geforce3 Ti200 128mb I dont know how it compares to others but on an Athlon XP 1800+, let's just say playing Warcraft III and RTCW is LIKE WHOA!!!!!!

oh i paid 80 bucks for it

was debating whether or not to get a Geforce4 Ti4200 but then i figured it wasnt wortht the extra money since the video card industry is like coming out new cards every six months
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Old 06-29-02, 11:29 AM
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ic, well thnx a lot for your opinion ppls!!!
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Old 06-29-02, 12:47 PM
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that's it. thnx a lot for our opinion! HA! tell us what you're going with man! don't just leave us hangin'....
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