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Old 06-08-02, 09:14 PM
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P3 800Mhz, new in retail box, where to buy?

I'm thinking of a cheap minimal upgrade. I have a P3 500 and my mobo could be flashed to support a P3 800. A few months ago I saw them on price watch for about $100, but I can't find any on the sites I purchased my current set of parts from. I'd prefer a retail box version, slot 1, simply because I don't want to deal with a separate fan and heat sink.
I know this upgrade wouldn't result in much improvemnet but I don't feel like a whole new mobo/processor etc at this point
Any reliable, good customer service etc. online stores still selling P3 800Mhz, 100Mhz bus chips?


or, info on safely overclocking a P3 500?
I might consider overclocking it, although due to how mouch I work I don't really want to do anything that might require lots of hours fixing my pc. buying a new cpu is a 10 minute install. burning out a chip is a week or more waiting for a new cpu and/or mobo to come in the mail, then an hour or more installing and testing everything

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I have a retail one that I've been using in my HTPC but I've been thinking of upgrading a bit, to maybe 1GHz. Its an 800MHz 133FSB but would be fine at 100FSB (I think, better verify though). I'm not super motivated to do a swap out, but if you can't find one let me know. Have you checked Pricewatch?
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The price on slot 1 P3's are ridiculously expensive. You're best bet at finding something that might be worthwhile is on ebay. For example, the lowest price on pricewatch for a slot 1, P3-800 is $255, and that's OEM.

The other problem with P3's is that they're multiplier locked. X's 800 MHz chip is most likely locked at a 6x multiplier so if you stuck it in a 100 MHz FSB system, it'd run at 600 MHz.

Another option is to use a slotket which is a slot 1 to socket 370 adapter. This will allow you to buy the cheaper FC-PGA P3's. Though, it'd be a good idea to try and verify that others with your same motherboard have had success using these adapters.
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Oh, nevermind about mine. It's not Slot 1. I missed that part.

Good luck finding one of those!
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hmm. maybe I'll just wait a little while longer and get a whole new mobo and processor. prices must be high on slot 1's since Intel went to the socket 370. I was hoping to find one cheap due to the age. maybe I'll get lucky
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Check ebay or online surplus places. Sometime I run into places that even have Pentium Pros. With them you'll see a model for $15 and then at another place, the same one for $1500.
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X your 800 would run fine at 100FSB but it would no longer be an 800. It would be a 600mHz. Big performance hit.

Thats why most people buy the P3 rated for 100FSB and overclock the mobo to 133. Its really simple and doesn't screw with any of your pci/agp slots as the 133 setting has the proper divder for those. As long as you get 133 memory most of the CPUs can handle it. Its well known that manufacturers understate the potential of their chips. I have 2 P3 700's and both work fine clocked at 1G with 133FSB.

Problem is you want a motherboard that is easy to overclock. I think mine is the CUV4x from asus. It has jumperless settings so I can just go into bios and set the FSB speed, memory speed, core voltage, everything you need to OC.
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Originally posted by mikehunt
hmm. maybe I'll just wait a little while longer and get a whole new mobo and processor. prices must be high on slot 1's since Intel went to the socket 370. I was hoping to find one cheap due to the age. maybe I'll get lucky
Thanks for the info
why not try overclocking it,

a 133 FSB x 5 multiplier means 665 Mhz cpu. not a huge change but still faster for you

what motherboard do you have? can you change the FSB at all using jumpers?
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Originally posted by mikehunt
hmm. maybe I'll just wait a little while longer and get a whole new mobo and processor. prices must be high on slot 1's since Intel went to the socket 370. I was hoping to find one cheap due to the age. maybe I'll get lucky
Thanks for the info
Just look for CPU/mobo combos at Fry's or something like that. They had a Motherboard/AMD 1.4 GHz Duron for $85 last week. Can't really beat that.
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Save your money and get a CPU/MBD combo. I went from a Celeron 400MHz OC'ed to 450Mhz to a P3 700Mhz. The gain is not much in the real world.

Going from a P3 700Mhz to an Athlon XP 2000+ is big difference though. In my P3 700Mhz with 1GB RAM, it used to take 30 minutes to stitch 14 2MB images into a pano with Panorama Factory. With the Athlon XP 2000+ and 1GB RAM, it took only 10 minutes.
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Yeah it's hard to decide between new mb/cpu combo, upgrading what you have, or just get a new pc (When Dell is selling P4's for less than $500).

Here at work we just bought 15 slot 1 P3 850's (100mhz bus) to upgrade some slot 1, 66mhz bus Celeron 466's (the Celerons were passed down to 10 Celeron 266 machines, so it was a big upgrade for the bucks). The old 466's could take either 66 or 100mhz processors, and Micron said they would clock to 800mhz (via jumpers). 850 was the slowest we could find, and lo and behold, they're all running at 850. The clock multiplier in the processor circuitry must override the motherboard setting.

We bought them from Googlegear.com. They don't appear to have any of these, so watch compgeeks.com. They'll eventually have some.

We chose this route because it was very simple. Just open the case, replace the whole cpu/fan unit, set the jumper from 66 to 100mhz, and replace the cover. However, if it were my machine, I would have used a slot1-socket 370 converter and bought a better processor. Confirm if yours will take a 133mhz processor, if so, get that. Otherwise, you must look for a 100mhz processor or it won't run at full speed.

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