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Old 03-14-02, 12:33 PM
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Help with New HD please....

I just ordered a new DELL P4 with XP home- should get here in a week.

I also just bought a Western Digital hard drive (from dell) to add on to it. Unfortunately, I didn't notice that it's an OEM drive - and I just got it now. The problem is, I have no idea how to install these and it doesn't come with any of the cables (do I a 40-pin 80 conductor cable?) or drivers or documentation. DOH.

Is it hard to install these things? I'm thinking I should return it but I think since I got it through Dell small business, there might be a 15% restocking fee. DOh. Stupid me.

I went to Western Digital and they have some vague instructions, and software that doesn't work for XP. Anyone have any thoughts or advice on what I should do?

Thanks!
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Just get yourself a 80-wire, 40-pin connector cable capable of ATA/66 or better (if you don't already have an open connector in your computer) and check WD's website for jumpering instructions (probably just use Cable Select (CS)) and their setup program (which probably won't be needed anyway). This is extremely simple!

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Is there any thing complicated after I plug it all in?
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Originally posted by dani-wan
Is there any thing complicated after I plug it all in?
Not really, you use XP's Disk Management routine to do the formatting and letter assignment.
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This might be useful

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/a...e_Install.html

there is a video that is 7.2mb, he rambles a little but you will get the idea. There is also some written help to follow with the video.

In your case make sure you use an 80pin cable.
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Originally posted by 4KRG
In your case make sure you use an 80pin cable.
Just to be clear, it's really a 40-pin connector but it has 80 wires.
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Ok, updated:

Thanks for the replies everyone. Thanks X! Thanks 4KRG! I'm still nervous about doing this without knowing exactly what I'm doing or what's gonna happen, but I'm working up the courage.. slowly

Alright, looks like I'll try to install this:
WESTERN DIGITAL
80GB WD800BB Internal Ultra ATA/100 EIDE 7200RPM Hard Drive

Couple questions:
For the 40 pin cable, Where's a good place to get one? Radioshack, online? Are round cords better?
Will I need a "bracket"? Or should I just stick it in there?
Also, does anyone know the typical size of the screws for securing the drive to the computer?- it'd would make the trip to home depot a lot easier

X, how is "cable select" different from the regular jumper settings?

Ok, this is what I understand so far:
1) I get a 40pin or 80 pin cable? (WD says I need a special cable to use cable-select, is this true?)
2) pick up some screws to screw the drive in and ground it
3) use default cable select jumper settings, (do I need to make sure my first HD is also set on cable select?)
4) Stick the power cable in.
5) Stick the black end of the cable into the HD with pin 1 in the correct orientation.
ok, This is the part I don't quite get:
which part do I stick where next?
*sigh* HD virgin trying to figure it out here......

Ps. I think my the new dell coming should be cable select compatible, right? here's what I ordered:

Dimension® 8200, Pentium® 4
Memory: 512MB RDRAM
Hard Drive: 40GB Ultra ATA/100 Hard Drive
Operating System: Microsoft® Windows® XP Home Edition
DVD-ROM or CD-ROM Drive: 16X Max Variable DVD-Rom Drive

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Bumping, with 2 more questions.

What's the best configuration for two hard drives, one DVD-rom, and one CD-writer? Which ones should be master and which slaves? does it make a difference?

Also, on these three ended cables, which one is the end for the "master" and which for "slave" ?

Thanks!
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Originally posted by dani-wan
Bumping, with 2 more questions.

What's the best configuration for two hard drives, one DVD-rom, and one CD-writer? Which ones should be master and which slaves? does it make a difference?
DVD should be the master.


Also, on these three ended cables, which one is the end for the "master" and which for "slave" ?

Thanks!
The end connector is the master
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Originally posted by dani-wan
What's the best configuration for two hard drives, one DVD-rom, and one CD-writer? Which ones should be master and which slaves? does it make a difference?
I would put the two hard drives on one cable and the DVD-rom as master and the CD-writer as slave on the other cable. It kind of depends on a few things such as whether your drives can operate at full speed when chained to slower devices (that's starting to be possible now, but I haven't seen it yet) and whether you copy lots of data between the two hard drives. If you don't do that a real lot go with the two hard drives on the same cable.

And again, as dvdsteve2000 said, the end is the master. And the master and slave connectors are relatively close together, the farther away connector goes to the motherboard.
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great that clears up a lot.
Thanks guys
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Adding hard drive to Dell

I literally just did this last night with a new Dell 8299 that I got on Thursday. I installed my older Western Digital 40 gb hard drive into the new machine.

It is really quite simple, Dell does supply directions in their Solutions guide so you can just follow that. The power cable and IDE cable are already inside the computer so you don't have to go buy anything. You just use the same IDE cable for both drives. Just remember to set the jumpers on both hard drives to cable select which is the far right vertical pin slot. Your Dell should come with a Western Digital hard drive. I will be happy to answer anymore questions you may have.

My only disappointment is that I wanted to add my zip drive from my other machine but I don't have any IDE cable space.
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Thanks HerdfanWV! Sounds great.

My computer should be delivered Mon or Tuesday, so all I need to do is figure out where to get some screws.....

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No screws needed

You don't even need screws they include those too. Dell made it very convenient to add a new hard drive. You will be very impressed. Make sure you tell us how it goes.
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Sweet!
HerdfanWV, Thanks for saving me a trip to home depot
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no prob!!
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Ok, Everything is working, thanks everyone!

now I just have to figure out how to partition this 80Gb into smaller chunks....

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