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Old 10-01-01, 02:48 PM
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Where to find an older OS? (plus a couple other questions)

I found this used computer for ~$140:

Features/Specifications
IBM 300GL Desktop
Grade B
Slot 1 Intel Pentium II 300MHz Processor with MMX technology
64MB RAM
4GB Hard Drive
CD-ROM Drive (speed may vary)
1.44MB floppy drive installed
Integrated Video (15-pin port)
Three PCI slots, Two ISA slots (1 ISA / 1 PCI shared)
Two DIMM sockets
Two USB ports
Two PS/2 ports
Two Serial ports
One Parallel port
Includes Power Supply (115v-230v) with Power Cord
Note: No OS/Drivers, Keyboard, Mouse, Sound Card, etc....

Product Requirements
Monitor, OS, Drivers, Mouse & Keyboard,
Sound card, modem, printer, scanner, etc....
Question: This would be for a friend who is looking for a barebones system to send email (with pics of his daughter) and to chat. Other than maybe a kid's game, I doubt that he will load any software on it.

He has a monitor, mouse & keyboard, wouldn’t care about sound or a printer/scanner. Where can he buy (or get) copies of an operating system? He would be happy with Windows 95 or 98, but the idea is to not spend much money. Also, what does “integrated video” mean?

What is a ball park price for a sound card in case he does want sound?

Thanks!

Edited to add that I have found OS' on ebay, for example this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI...tem=1278374095

I think that Windows 95 would be all that he needs, since he doesn't want to run any software (with the exception of maybe a kids' game). Again, all he wants is to be able to send/receive email, to chat, and to send pics of his kid (he is from South America, this would be a cheap way for him to communicate with his relatives down there). But let's say he buys the above-referenced software, what else would he need (besides a modem)?

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"Integrated video" just means that the video is in the motherboard instead of on a PCI/AGP card.

You may want to look at the Black IBM that Compgeeks has as it has a 400MHz processor, soundcard and AGP graphics card for $179.

A soundcard would run about $20-30 for a cheap one

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Since that computer has an ISA slot try this one:

http://www.googlegear.com/ggweb/jsp/...uctCode=291608

It is probably the cheapest you will find.
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Re: Where to find an older OS? (plus a couple other questions)

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Where can he buy (or get) copies of an operating system? He would be happy with Windows 95 or 98, but the idea is to not spend much money.
Surely he could find another friend or family member who had left Win95 behind but still had the software. If not, then it may be worth checking with his local computer shops... if they have Win95 copies left, they might cut a good deal on one.


Also, what does “integrated video” mean?
It means that there isn't a video card inserted into a slot on the motherboard. Instead, it is built directly into the motherboard.


What is a ball park price for a sound card in case he does want sound?
Depends on how good he wants. Cheapest things around are probably only $10 or so... decent cards might be $30-$60... good ones can be much more.
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Originally posted by jumbojp
...You may want to look at the Black IBM that Compgeeks has as it has a 400MHz processor, soundcard and AGP graphics card for $179...
Features/Specifications
IBM E-Pro Desktop
Grade B
Black
Slot 1 Intel Pentium II 400MHz processor
64MB RAM
6GB Hard Drive
CD-ROM Drive
1.44MB floppy drive installed
On Board Crystal audio chip
AGP Video Card
Three PCI slots, Two ISA slots (1 ISA/ 1 PCI shared) on a Riser Card
Three DIMM sockets
Two PS/2 ports
Two Serial ports
Two USB ports
One Parallel port
One Video port
Line In, Line Out, Mic. In
One RJ 45 connector
Includes Power Supply (115v-230v) with Power Cord
NO Operating System, Monitor, drivers, keyboard, mouse, etc.....

Product Requirements
Operating System, Monitor, drivers, keyboard, mouse, etc....

(shipping for the computer via UPS is $16).

Is this a significant improvement over the first one I mentioned? It has a faster processor (300MHz to 400 MHz) and a bigger hard drive (4GB to 6GB), I assume that the rest is fine for his needs.

Also, it says "On Board Crystal audio chip", is that the sound card? If not, would the soundcard linked by jumbojp work in this machine?
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Originally posted by Heat
Also, it says "On Board Crystal audio chip", is that the sound card?

Yup, this one seems to include built in sound.
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My friend likes the second computer referenced above (the Black IBM that Compgeeks has as it has a 400MHz processor, soundcard and AGP graphics card for $179).

It looks like he would also need a modem with it. Here is a list of modems from computergeeks:

http://www.compgeeks.com/products.asp?cat=MDM

I picked up the $13.25 one for him (though they added $6 to the shipping for this item, from $16 to $22).

So, no question here, just wanted to say thanks to everybody for your help.

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I would really suggest you to get Win98 instead of 95... Win95 was HELL for me, it kept crashing. But Win98/98SE/ME/2k/XP are rock stable (at least they are/were on my systems)
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Originally posted by Real Boba Fett
I would really suggest you to get Win98 instead of 95... Win95 was HELL for me, it kept crashing. But Win98/98SE/ME/2k/XP are rock stable (at least they are/were on my systems)
He has disks for Windows 98.

Of course, on my computer I am using Windows 95, I know what you mean about crashing. (my computer is an old Packard Bell, Pentium 75, a wopping 8mg of ram, a 14.4 modem, 700 meg hard drive). I plan on buying a new computer following Christmas.

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