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Old 09-27-01, 03:32 PM
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Need a cheap HD for a Dell P450 ! Advice?

Need a cheap HD for a Dell P450 ! Advice?

I currently have a 13 GB HD. (7200 RPM)

I would like to put in an additional HD that is anywhere between 30 GB and 60 GB

Where is a good deal?

What is a controller card? (I think I have an ATA controller card now)

Can someone recomend to me a good card/HD setup?


Is installation easy?

I have 2 empty 3.5 bays,
No 5.25 (cd) bays open


Cheers!
Old 09-27-01, 03:41 PM
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Is this a good deal?


http://www003.staples.com/Catalog/Br...e=1&SKU=428385


Maxtor 30 GB HD Kit


Add this 3 1/2" EIDE hard drive to your computer and upgrade it for high performance. With 7200 RPM and 2MB cache, it provides the capacity you need to run Windows 95/98, download files from the Internet, and run popular software programs. All cables, brackets, installation software, and instructions included.


$119.98

Good deal?

is that a good brand?
Old 09-27-01, 05:19 PM
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If you look around online and at your local computer stores you should be able to find an IBM/ Maxtor/ Western Digital 40GB hard drive for ~$115

I.e. Online at Newegg.com (Here for $103)

If 40GB is too much, you should be able to find 20GB 7200 rpm drives for
Old 09-27-01, 05:23 PM
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I just bought a 40gig 7200 from DELL for 100.00 and free shipping when they had their deals going on 2 weeks ago. Dell is always having specials. Check out Dells website.. If it is a Dell computer you can put in you serial # and they will recommend stuff to you.
Right now they have $15.00 off a $100.00 purchase and free shipping.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/i...customer_id=19

40 gig HD:Total $110.00 shipped

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/c...tegory_id=4004

I am not sure which one you need. probably this one.. This one sounds like a closer match to the one at Staples.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...tlisting%2Easp


or this one:

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...tlisting%2Easp
Old 10-25-01, 11:31 PM
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I have a Dell P3 450 'XPS T450'


My Dell is not listed as being compadible with that HD unfortunately.


It looked so good.


Can I still use it maybe?

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...ategory_id=4004



I would like to put keep Win98 on my current HD (10.3 GB) and put XP on the new one (hopefully 40 GB)

Cna anyone help me with a dual boot? (so I can choose which OS I want at start up?)

Thanks!
Old 10-26-01, 10:38 AM
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I am REALLY looking at this one now

(as mentioned earlier)


Maxtor 40.0GB Hard Drive Kit

Item # 428386

"Add this 3 1/2" EIDE hard drive to your computer and upgrade it for high performance. With 7200 RPM and 2MB cache, it provides the capacity you need to run Windows 95/98, download files from the Internet, and run popular software programs. All cables, brackets, installation software, and instructions included. 3-year mfr. limited warranty. "


It does not mention winXP, but i assume that's b/c it was not around when this HD was being made.



This HD can be used in ANY computer, right?



The total price will be $104.99 after coupon






Any advice would be appreciated. I am going to make the purchase right after I see the Sunday adds.


Cheers!
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If the drive says 3.5 inch and IDE, you can use it in your system. They don't care what operating system you put on them.

Dave
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Originally posted by Dave99
If the drive says 3.5 inch and IDE, you can use it in your system. They don't care what operating system you put on them.

Dave

The one listed about says "EIDE"

is that a problem?
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That will work fine. I guess I should expand the list, anything that is 3.5 inch and says something like IDE or EIDE or ATA or Ultra ATA or Ultra ATA 66 or Ultra ATA 100

Dave
Originally posted by Sominex



The one listed about says "EIDE"

is that a problem?
Old 10-28-01, 09:23 AM
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Originally posted by Dave99
That will work fine. I guess I should expand the list, anything that is 3.5 inch and says something like IDE or EIDE or ATA or Ultra ATA or Ultra ATA 66 or Ultra ATA 100

Dave
...Ultra DMA, Ultra DMA 33, Ultra DMA 66


Figured I'd add that just incase see any of those and is confused.
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Ok... here is what I bought today--

Maxtor 40GB

Buffer Size: 2MB
Average Access Time: <8.7 MS
Data Transfer Rate: 100 Mbytes / sec (UltraATA/100)

Spin Rate: 7200 RPM

Price at Staples B&M: $104.98 (after coupon use)

What do you all think?


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and... I should have the space INSIDE for this right? I have a DVD ROM and CD-RW in the 5.25 bays

TWO open 3.5 drives...
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Can someone help this confused person with JUMPER SETTINGS


I have one HD (the original) that will staying in there


AND now..

a 2nd (larger HD)


How do I set up these jumpers?

Thanks!
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Originally posted by Sominex
Can someone help this confused person with JUMPER SETTINGS


I have one HD (the original) that will staying in there


AND now..

a 2nd (larger HD)


How do I set up these jumpers?

Thanks!
The master drive is the outside connector. The slave is the middle connector. The jumpers will be numbered on the HD. And the top of the drive should have all the jumper configs. Also all retail drives come with step by step instructions and pictures.

One thing to be carefull of is connecting the cable right. The IDE cable should have black and blue connectors. Check the instructions which end hooks to the drive and which end to the motherboard or controller card.
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If you're puttting it on the same cable as your current drive, then you'll want to set the old drive to Master and your new drive to Slave.

If you're putting the new drive on a different cable, then you can just set it to single/master.
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Thank you...


So,, the long flat cable that is currently connected to the HD already in my computer...


THAT cable will have a male end on it, in the middle that is currently not being used, I take that and I stick into the back of the NEW HD, correct?


Before I do that... I CHANGE the jumpers on the CURRENT HD, and set them to "Master"


THEN

change the jumpers on the new HD and set them to "SLAVE"

??


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Now related question...


I want to COMBINE the partitions that are on my CURRENT HD.

I am using Partition Magic 6.0


I have many programs like Compuserve, Winzip, Paint Shop, etc,etc,etc and other CRUCIAL programs installed on the 2nd partition segmant on the drive (currently called "D")


I want to choose the option "MERGE partitions...

the program tells me when that happens it will take EVERYTHING from Partition "D" and put it in a FOLDER on Parition "C"


Is this going to cause all my file paths to be INCORRECT, and stop programs like Compuserve from working correctly?

Maybe I can use the "drive mapper" feature to prevent this?


Help! Thanks!
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Old 10-29-01, 06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sominex

So, the long flat cable that is currently connected to the HD already in my computer...

THAT cable will have a male end on it, in the middle that is currently not being used, I take that and I stick into the back of the NEW HD, correct?

Before I do that... I CHANGE the jumpers on the CURRENT HD, and set them to "Master"

THEN

change the jumpers on the new HD and set them to "SLAVE"
Yep, that's it. If you have to unplug the cable from the motherboard, just be sure to re-attach it in the same way. That is, don't accidentally twist it and plug it in backwards.


I want to COMBINE the partitions that are on my CURRENT HD.

I am using Partition Magic 6.0

I have many programs like Compuserve, Winzip, Paint Shop, etc,etc,etc and other CRUCIAL programs installed on the 2nd partition segmant on the drive (currently called "D")

I want to choose the option "MERGE partitions...

the program tells me when that happens it will take EVERYTHING from Partition "D" and put it in a FOLDER on Parition "C"

Is this going to cause all my file paths to be INCORRECT, and stop programs like Compuserve from working correctly?

Maybe I can use the "drive mapper" feature to prevent this?
I haven't used partition magic much so I don't know what the drive mapper feature is supposed to do.

What OS are you using? How many partitions do you have on your current drive? Ultimately, how many partitions do you want and how do you want them arranged on the two drives?
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Got it!

Thanks everyone.

I got the HD installed..

It got tricky for a minute b/c I was under the impression that it was going into one of the upper 3.5" bays.

And the IDE cable would not fit anywhere near it to connect!


I then cracked open my Dell computer manual and found out it ws going in some lower special 3.5" bay.

So, I got it installed and working OK.


The one thing I did notice--

It is a 40 GB drive, but I am only reading 38 GB -

What is up with that?

Thanks again all!

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