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Originally Posted by RichC2
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That sucks, Discovery and its umbrella networks are an absolute joke these days.
Just cancelled Discovery+ after 6 months promo. Just nothing much, besides a couple paranormal shows, that interests our household. I really hope they keep HBO Max as a separate streaming app. |
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If they "HUB" Discovery+ on HBOMax I'd be cool with that.
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And not charge extra for it.
The Apple TV app was recently updated but it still sucks. I've been using Kodi on the NVidia Shield lately for HBO, Netflix, Disney, Hulu and Paramount- very minimal interface that doesn't insult me during any of the content. |
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by OldBoy
(Post 14074247)
Does this change anything if get HBO max through cable?
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This is some first impression of a series based on an iconic cartoon:
People are going to be losing their minds over this one (ha, get it?) |
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David Zaslav wants to keep the budget of HBO Max original movies to $35M or under. This is an excerpt from a Hollywood Reporter article
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I was looking forward to more Isabel May in the Wonder Twins.... Oh well.... I'm really glad I didn't take that Discovery job that I interviewed for a couple months ago. I was nervous about it due to the merger.
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Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by DJariya
(Post 14105829)
David Zaslav wants to keep the budget of HBO Max original movies to $35M or under. This is an excerpt from a Hollywood Reporter article
https://twitter.com/discussingfilm/s...u77kXHzY10r0bg |
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Daaaamn. :eek: he is not wrong but isn't Hollywood built and run on relationships like that?
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Well, it also flopped because it didn't get good word of mouth and reviews. The day and date thing didn't help either.
But, I agree that it wasn't the kind of movie that was going to make money. I think even without a pandemic and theaters only it likely would have only made like $30-40M tops if not less. |
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But it feels like if Hollywood ONLY made films they thought were gonna make big money they'd only make 2 or 3 films a year
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The Mule had just made a lot of money for them a few years before. Was Cry Macho going to make as much money...probably not, but Clint's audience is older and those people hadn't started going to movies again in 2021.
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Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by mwbmis
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The Mule had just made a lot of money for them a few years before. Was Cry Macho going to make as much money...probably not, but Clint's audience is older and those people hadn't started going to movies again in 2021.
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It was shot in late 2020 on a 33M budget. Clint has a pretty good history with movies he stars in so it doesn't feel like an unreasonable risk. They were probably hopeful that people would be going back to movies by then.
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I mean on one hand, you don't want to shit on talent, especially talent that has made you a bunch of money.
On the other hand, Clint is 91....... |
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As bad as Cry Macho was (and it wasn't good), it didn't make money because it was day and date on HBO Max. Had there been no pandemic/had it been released to theaters, it would have turned a profit. Can't blame THAT on Eastwood.
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Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
(Post 14107289)
As bad as Cry Macho was (and it wasn't good), it didn't make money because it was day and date on HBO Max. Had there been no pandemic/had it been released to theaters, it would have turned a profit. Can't blame THAT on Eastwood.
Zaslav may sound like a dick from these early reports, but he's running 2 companies and one of them has been a money loser for a few years now. |
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HBO Max June new releases and tiles leaving:
June 1: 13 Going on 30, 2004 300, 2006 A Star is Born, 2018 Abduction, 2011 (HBO) Across the Universe, 2007 (HBO) The Adventures of Mark Twain, 1944 The Amazing Panda Adventure, 1995 Angels & Demons, 2009 The Ant Bully, 2006 Assassination Nation, 2018 (HBO) Babylon A.D. , 2008 The Bank Job, 2008 Beach Rats, 2017 (HBO) Bee Movie, 2007 (HBO) Blue Bayou, 2021 (HBO) Border, 2018 (HBO) Colossal, 2016 (HBO) Caro Comes Out, 2019 (HBO) Chef, 2014 (HBO) The Con Is On, 2018 (HBO) Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon, 2000 Damsel, 2018 (HBO) Dark Passage, 1947 Day Breakers, 2009 (HBO) The Da Vinci Code, 2006 Domino, 2005 (HBO) Extraction, 2020 (HBO) The Firm, 1993 First Blood, 1982 The Grand Budapest Hotel, 2014 (HBO) Gridiron Gang, 2006 Guess Who, 2005 Hairspray (Musical Remake), 2007 The Harvey Girls, 1946 Highlander, 1986 Horsemen, 2008 How Do You Know, 2010 How They Got Over, 2017 How to Survive a Plague, 2012 The Holiday, 2006 (HBO) I Know What You Did Last Summer, 1997 I Still Know What You Did Last Summer, 1998 I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer, 2006 I'll See You In My Dreams, 2015 (HBO) The Importance of Being Earnest, 2002 (HBO) The Incredible Burt Wonderstone, 2013 John Grisham's the Rainmaker, 1997 Klute, 1971 The Last Movie Star, 2017 (HBO) Life Partners, 2014 (HBO) Macbeth, 2015 (HBO) Major League II, 1994 Major League: Back to the Minors, 1998 The Mask, 1994 McQueen, 2018 (HBO) My Boss's Daughter, 2003 (HBO) My Days of Mercy, 2017 (HBO) My Dead Dad, 2021 The One I love, 2014 (HBO) Papi, 2020 (HBO) Paris Is Burning, 1990 Rambo III, 1988 (HBO) Rambo First Blood Part II, 1985 (HBO) Religulous, 2008 (HBO) Remember Me, 2010 (HBO) Ride Along, 2014 (HBO) Ride the High Country, 1962 Sabotage, 2014 (HBO) Sleepers, 1996 (HBO) Soul Surfer, 2011 Stepmom, 1998 Suite Francaise, 2014 (HBO) The Taking of Pelham 123, 2009 Total Recall, 1990 (HBO) Unfinished Song, 2012 (HBO) Un padre no tan padre, 2016 W., 2008 (HBO) Watchmen (movie), 2009 What Happens In Vegas, 2008 (HBO) (Extended Version) The World According to Garp, 1982 (HBO) The Vanishing of Sidney Hall, 2017 (HBO) June 3: On My Way with Irina Rimes, Max Original Documentary Nudo Mixteco, 2021 (HBO) June 6: Doctor Who, Season 13 Irma Vep, Limited Drama Series Premiere (HBO) Total Dramarama, Season S3A June 8: The Janes, Documentary Premiere (HBO) June 9: Amsterdam, Max Original Season 1 Premiere Roadrunner: A Film About Anthony Bourdain, Max Original Documentary Premiere Summer Camp Island, Max Original Season 6 Premiere June 10: The Card Counter, 2021 (HBO) Naomi Odo, Season 3 Victor and Valentino, Season 3B June 15: La Unidad, Season 2 June 16: Father of the Bride, 2022 Available on HBO Max in 4K UHD, HDR10, Dolby Vision, and Dolby Atmos on supported devices June 17: Lucas the Spider, Season 1B Las Mejores Familias (AKA The Best Families), 2020 (HBO) Non-Stop, 2014 (HBO) June 19: Tom and Jerry Cowboy Up! June 20: Birdgirl, Season 2 June 22: All American: Homecoming Chernobyl: The Lost Tapes, Documentary Premiere (HBO) June 23: Little Ellen, Max Original Season3 Premiere Menudo: Forever Young, Max Original Documentary Premiere Wellington Paranormal, Season 3 June 24: Bing, Season 1B Rich & Shameless, Season 1 Tuca & Bertie, Season 2 June 26: Westworld, Season 4 (HBO) June 30: Julia, 2021 PCC O Poder Segredo, Max Original Premiere Naked Mole Rat Gets Dressed: The Underground, Max Original Premiere TITLES LEAVING HBO MAX IN JUNE: June 9: 12 Strong, 2018 June 30: 2 Guns, 2013 20 Feet From Stardom, 2013 (HBO) All Dogs Go To Heaven, 1996 (HBO) Dogs Go To Heaven 2, 1996 (HBO) All I See Is You, 2016 (HBO) Amityville 3-D, 1983 Amityville II: The Possession, 1982 Barry Munday, 2010 (HBO) Black Hawk Down, 2001 (HBO) Blades Of Glory, 2007 (HBO) Brother Nature, 2016 (HBO) Chaplin, 1992 (HBO) Dark Water, 2005 (HBO) Disturbia, 2007 Duplex, 2003 (HBO) Early Man, 2018 (HBO) Endless Love, 2014 (HBO) Godsend, 2004 (HBO) Good Neighbours, 2010 (HBO) High-Rise, 2015 (HBO) Hobo With A Shotgun, 2011 (HBO) Hostage, 2005 (HBO) I Used To Go Here, 2020 (HBO) Identity Thief, 2013 (HBO) (Extended Version) John Dies At The End, 2012 (HBO) Joyful Noise, 2012 (HBO) Killing Gunther, 2017 (HBO) La Gallina Turuleca (aka Turu, The Wacky Hen), 2019 (HBO) Le Divorce, 2003 (HBO) Leonard Cohen: I'm Your Man, 2005 (HBO) Little Man, 2006 (HBO) Los Lobos, 2019 (HBO) Loser Leaves Town, 2018 (HBO) Love and A.45., 1994 (HBO) Lucky Numbers, 2000 (HBO) Matchstick Men, 2003 Max Steel, 2016 (HBO) Mousehunt, 1997 (HBO) Presumed Innocent, 1990 Princess Kaiukani, 2009 (HBO) Real Steel, 2011 (HBO) Rounders, 1998 (HBO) Saturday Night Fever, 1977 (HBO) (Director's Cut) Shall We Dance?, 1996 (HBO) She's All That, 1999 (HBO) Solaris, 2002 Soul Food, 1997 (HBO) Spare Parts, 2015 (HBO) Speed 2 Cruise Control, 1997 (HBO) Staying Alive, 1983 Still Waiting, 2009 (HBO) Sunset Song, 2015 (HBO) Super Capers, 2009 (HBO) Superstar, 1999 (HBO) The 15:17 To Paris, 2015 (HBO) The Gospel According To Andre, 2017 (HBO) The Last Five Years, 2014 (HBO) The Letter, 2012 (HBO) The Mummy, 1999 (HBO) The Mummy Returns, 2001 (HBO) The Next Three Days, 2010 (HBO) The Peacemaker, 1997 (HBO) The Scorpion King, 2002 (HBO) The Wild Life, 1984 (HBO) Wristcutters: A Love Story, 2006 (HBO) Trance, 2013 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls, 2007 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Diary Of A Mad Black Woman, 2005 (HBO) Tyler Perry's I Can Do Bad All By Myself, 2009 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Madea Goes To Jail, 2009 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Madea's Big Happy Family, 2011 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Madea's Family Reunion, 2006 (HBO) Tyler Perry's Why Did I Get Married Too, 2010 (HBO) Venus And Serena, 2012 (HBO) Waiting... , 2005 (HBO) What's The Worst That Could Happen?, 2001 (HBO) Wonder Boys, 2000 (HBO) Wrong Turn At Tahoe, 2009 (HBO) The Yellow Birds, 2017 (HBO) |
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So a new Father if the Bride for a modern audience.
“Though most of the plot is familiar, there are some big differences. This time, for example, the parents of the bride don't have a picture-perfect marriage. In fact, they're careening towards divorce. "His marriage to his wife is on the rocks," Garcνa, who plays architect Billy, husband to Ingrid (Estefan), told Entertainment Weekly. "It's sliding downhill and is on a slippery slope, not because they don't love each other. We've kind of grown into different spaces, and we take our marriage for granted at this point." Zzzzzzzzzzz |
Re: HBO Max Warnermedia streaming service
Originally Posted by whotony
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So a new Father if the Bride for a modern audience.
Though most of the plot is familiar, there are some big differences. This time, for example, the parents of the bride don't have a picture-perfect marriage. In fact, they're careening towards divorce. "His marriage to his wife is on the rocks," Garcνa, who plays architect Billy, husband to Ingrid (Estefan), told Entertainment Weekly. "It's sliding downhill and is on a slippery slope, not because they don't love each other. We've kind of grown into different spaces, and we take our marriage for granted at this point." Zzzzzzzzzzz You sound like this is the 1st time you've heard of it. There's a thread in Movie Talk with some discussion about it that's been going on for awhile. And there's a trailer. |
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It is.
Also to be fair that “thread” has three replies and it isn’t much of a discussion beyond saying people like they Steve Martin movies. |
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I'm a Chloe Fineman fan so I'm watching to support her.
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Seems like the new Unlimited Premium AT&T plan (which replaces Unlimited Elite) doesn't have free HBO Max anymore. It was inevitable. We'll see how long they keep the grandfathered stuff around.
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As much as this has been the year from hell for Netflix, 2022 up until now has been nothing short of heavenly for rival HBO Max. Subscriber numbers are way up, its content is connecting with audiences (and awards voters), and even its initially buggy user interface has been vastly improved. But while success usually brings stability in business, the second half of the year will likely be anything but stable for HBO Max. With new Warner Bros. Discovery CEO David Zaslav already moving fast to put his stamp on his newly supersized company, industry insiders are buzzing about big changes being contemplated at the streamer, ranging from the elimination of entire program departments to even ditching the HBO Max branding altogether. If you’ve been paying even a little bit of attention the last few months to the reporting surrounding the Zaslav-led Discovery takeover of the former WarnerMedia, nothing about the notion of significant disruption at any division within the company will come as a surprise. Lots of very talented execs have already been pushed out the door, ambitious film and TV projects have been scrapped, and an entire streaming platform (RIP, CNN+) was shut down days into existence. The 11 months it took for federal regulators to approve the merger of WarnerMedia and Discovery gave Zaslav and top lieutenant JB Perrette (now head of global streaming at the company) nearly a year to contemplate how they wanted to do things. The fact that things are (mostly) going swimmingly at HBO Max isn’t going to stop them from executing his vision for how to build on whatever success the streamer has had to date, as well as fix any mistakes he thinks were made by former owners AT&T. So far, Zaslav and his team have made only one definitive pronouncement about the future of the service: HBO Max and Discovery+ will be folded into a single unified app at some point (relatively) soon, once the not-inconsiderable technical challenges can be figured out (there’s a lot of content on Discovery) and the company decides how much more, if anything, to charge for the supersized service. Beyond that, everything else is speculation — though as usual in Hollywood, that’s not keeping folks from chattering about what may be in store on several fronts: ➽ Will Warner Bros. keep making movies just for Max? Last year, former WarnerMedia boss Jason Kilar announced an ambitious plan to have Warner Bros. Pictures produce at least ten big feature films directly for Max. One of them — a remake of Father of the Bride — debuted last week. But I’ve talked to industry insiders who say it’s now an open question whether Zaslav wants to keep soaking millions into expensive movies that never see the inside of a cinema. We got the first hint of this philosophy last month when news broke that the exec had decided to scrap an already-announced Max feature film based on DC’s Wonder Twins characters. THR reported the move was made because Zaslav doesn’t want any DC films to debut without making a stop in theaters, and that the other movies on the Made for Max slate should now come in with a budget under $35 million. Still, one industry insider tells me there’s a broader debate going on inside the company about whether even lower-budget films like Father of the Bride might benefit from having a brief theatrical run, particularly since all Warner movies now come to Max roughly 45 days after opening in moviehouses. That would effectively end the idea of Warner Bros. Pictures making movies directly for Max, though it’s possible the studio could still make the same number of films in total: They’d just play in theaters before jumping to streaming. While this would fly against current conventional wisdom in the film business that there’s no longer room for “smaller” films in cinemas, “Zaslav is very much a believer in theatrical windows,” one industry source told me. A rep for the studio declined comment. ➽ Does Discovery take over HBO Max’s unscripted unit? Discovery’s programming expertise is unscripted television, and with so many Discovery-branded reality shows headed to Max as part of the plan to unite the apps, there has been talk about big cuts to Max’s unscripted team for months. Insider’s Elaine Low last month reported on industry speculation that top unscripted execs on the Warners side could be headed for the exits soon, while last week Puck News noted that Max unscripted staffers — the folks behind titles such as Legendary and FBoy Island — were convinced layoffs were going to be announced last Friday even though there were no such announcements planned. But as Puck also noted, those staffers are likely right to be worried. Given Discovery’s expertise on the unscripted front, industry insiders I spoke with this week tell me it’s possible Team Zaslav might decide to just eliminate the HBO Max reality-show division altogether, while continuing to fund the separate (and highly decorated) documentaries unit. An HBO Max spokeswoman declined comment. ➽ A name change? While this is probably lower down on the priority list for Warner Bros. Discovery execs, there’s once again talk that the HBO Max name may not be long for this world. Speculation about a name change has been going on almost from the minute Max was announced. Many folks inside the pre-merger company worried not only about diluting the HBO brand but more importantly were concerned that HBO had very little resonance for audiences outside of the U.S. (In much of Europe, for instance, HBO programs have long aired under the Sky TV banner.) CNBC’s Alex Sherman has been all over this internal debate, documenting dissatisfaction with the branding back in December 2020 and then again last October, when he reported that those same anti-Max dissidents were getting ready to lobby Zaslav to ditch the name for something else once he took over. One non-Warner Bros. Discovery producer (and former exec) I spoke with thinks a rebranding would let Zaslav fix a big AT&T mistake. This time, as Sherman noted, the justification for a switcheroo is that with all the new Discovery content coming to the platform, “HBO Max” doesn’t offer the best description of what the service offered consumers. A new ID would thus provide an opening to reach the millions of consumers (both in the U.S. and elsewhere) for whom 90 Day Fiancι is a bigger draw than Succession. HBO-produced shows would still be branded as such on the app, of course, but the marketing for the platform would then treat HBO shows as simply one planet in a bigger content universe. One non-Warner Bros. Discovery producer (and former exec) I spoke with thinks a rebranding would let Zaslav fix a big AT&T mistake, though he actually argues for a slightly less dramatic change to the name. “It should always have been HBO+,” he said, predicting the current “Max” moniker “will not last.” As interesting as the pro-name change argument may be, Zaslav may ultimately decide it’s not worth the investment in time and resources to make what is at the core a cosmetic change. And as for the other possible changes at Max discussed in this week’s newsletter, it is worth repeating: This is speculation. According to multiple sources familiar with the thinking of Warner Bros. Discover execs, very little final has been decided beyond combining HBO Max and Discovery+. So while there are strong hints that some layoffs are all but certain to hit Max’s reality-TV team, they could end up being less dramatic than what some in the reality-TV community fear. Likewise, in terms of Max original movies, THR’s reporting indicates those titles with lower budgets and already in the pipeline will probably be fine. Zaslav may decide to keep having his movie studio produce a slate of cost-conscious films exclusive to Max. Or he could simply decide that, moving forward, those same titles now deemed “Max Originals” will get at least some form of theatrical release, even if box-office expectations are modest. If so, that would be win-win for the film studio (it’s still making movies) and the streaming side (they’re still getting movies which will be brand new to the vast majority of subscribers). What also seems unlikely to change much is the HBO Max content team run by network vet Casey Bloys, which as noted earlier has been on fire of late. Headed into next month’s Emmy nominations, the combo of HBO and HBO Max is the favorite to score the most number of noms, having just cleaned up in the just-announced TCA Awards nominations. This year has also seen the launch of several hits, including Winning Time, The Gilded Age, Julia, Our Flag Means Death, and Peacekeeper. And while it’s too soon to say how critics and audiences will react, the August arrival of House of the Dragon promises to revive at least a little bit of that Game of Thrones magic. Even before the streaming era, HBO has gone through periods where things have seemed a bit bumpy and observers have questioned its future (remember all those stories declaring the network toast after The Sopranos and Sex and the City signed off?) It is possible that after a year of non-stop momentum, HBO Max could be in for a little bit of turbulence as new owners step into the cockpit and adjust the service’s flight plan. But as long as the streamer’s core content pipeline remains strong, and subscriber growth stays steady, it seems likely all the changes (and rumors about changes) swirling around HBO Max will end up being remembered as little more than background noise. |
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I still don't get the decision to basically scrap all TNT scripted shows. You'd think that that provided a natural pipeline for newish content on the service, while still being able to flesh out the actual channel's lineup.
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