DJariya

https://deadline.com/2018/10/warnerm...19-1202480224/


Mike86 has clamoring for a Warner Bros. Streaming service, well here you go!





Cue the Another Fucking streaming service complaints

Now Disney and Warner in 2019. When is Paramount and Sony doing this?

I smell the future location for The Big Bang Theory’s streaming rights.

DJariya

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/10/...19-warner-bros

More details. Looks like this service will combine HBO, Turner and Warner Bros. content.

It will launch in the 4th quarter of 2019, so this time next year.

It says it will try to balance out it's content deals with other providers. So it's not going to automatically take away content licensed to Hulu or Netflix.

If it's structured similar to VRV, then I could see this being attractive to some people.


Price-wise, AT&T's CEO says it will cost more than HBO Now's $15/month fee.

https://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-to-la...ws-and-movies/

So it's aiming at being a truly premium service.

davidh777

Warner only has brand recognition with nerds like us, but if it's similar to my HBO package but with better content, sure, I'd take a look at it. Of course, Game of Thrones will be over by then so maybe I won't keep my HBO. I've kept my subscription but haven't been knocked out by the content.

PhantomStranger

When are people going to realize their monthly television bill will end up about the same as they paid for cable, except spread over ten different providers?

That is where streaming is headed.

It's only a matter of time after providers build up enough customers that they introduce commercials into streaming content. Mark my words, that is all but a fait accompli within the next five years.

DJariya

That's why discussion/water cooler talk for many buzz worthy TV shows is essentially dead now in 2018. Shows/movies are so fragmented among the different providers/services that most people barely can keep up with all of it and where everything is. Let alone pay for more than 2 or 3 services to get access to exclusive content.

It's going to be interesting in Fall 2019 where this service will fit in. There's only so much time and disposable income people have for entertainment.

JoeyOhhhh

I can see that, in my circle of friends and coworkers, the amount of shows that all of us watch and talk about slowly declines because there is so much content out there to choose from

davidh777

A lot of people I know watch the same shows, but the bingeing model means that no one is watching at the same time. Plus, in these social media days, you have to be careful about spoilers because you're not talking with your co-workers but with hundreds of your friends, and they don't all subscribe to HBO for GOT.

PhantomStranger

Streaming and binge viewing have largely killed off television as a social discussion tool. Movies still have some cache because most people still catch them as they debut.

Fewer and fewer shows are going to achieve critical mass with word of mouth so neutered.

Mike86

I haven’t exactly been clamoring for it I just was saying that rather than doing a separate dedicated DC service which is very niche it would make more sense to do a WB service and have DC included in that. This is obviously better though because now they can try and get money out of you twice!!

Streaming is a fucking joke. Sure you can cancel services as you want but rather than having just one cable or satellite provider you’re probably just going to eventually wind up paying for every studios version of a streaming service. Plus on top of that with more streaming means more bandwidth which means a higher internet bill. People are really just trading one thing for another.

dvd-4-life

I drop services that never seem to add anything new.

I had Full Moon and a lot of there stuff isn't worth watching once plus they have turned to soft core porn from the 1980s so I dumped them.

Fandor was another one because whenever I would check their movie listing it never seemed too change.

I don't know how DC Universe will keep my interest if they put out everything at the very beginning and never grow. They along with Boomerang should be with the new WB streaming service.

Mike86

Looking at the DC Universe schedule it’s looking pretty light. I think there’s only a total of like five or six original shows scheduled for next year which are all spread out. Really that’s hardly anything. If they planned to do this lumping it together along DC and Boomerang would have made way more sense. Those combined I could see them getting away with charging between $10 and $15 give or take for. The three together which they own all of anyways would have given them way more content to put up and would have given more variety to appeal to a wider audience.

Tom Banjo

The services will eventually have to start bundling if they want to survive. Much like how VRV combines Crunchyroll, Shudder, etc.

Deftones

Difference though, is companies like ATT(WB)/Disney have really deep pockets and can probably sustain many years of losses.

E Unit

WB needs to roll DC Universe into this.

DJariya

It's barely 1 month old. And the 1st original show doesn't launch until tomorrow.

It doesn't have a Netflix or Prime Video type library, but was anyone expecting it right away? They're still working out the kinks and slowly acquiring other content aside from the originals.

For what they have so far and the price only being $5/month (with the pre-order), it's not expensive. And there is more to come.

E Unit

Just saying it’ll be a more attractive offer if it’s part of something bigger. A WB streaming service with this as part of it will more than likely be way more successful than a DC stand-alone service.

Mike86

From the sounds of things Disney's streaming service is going to be everything (Disney, Marvel, Star Wars) under one roof. That's going to be a hell of a lot more appealing to the average consumer. There's no reason WB shouldn't run their service the same unless they're stupid. I don't know who thought it would be a good idea separating everything out.

Face it they're never going to have Netflix, Hulu, or Prime levels of content with just DC stuff. Even if theoretically they got everything (the CW shows and all the other stuff they don't have on there) they still wouldn't. That's exactly why it didn't need to be its own thing. As far as more to come, I mean sure they're rolling out more originals next year but in the grand scheme of things it isn't a whole lot really. As far as price, while it isn't overly expensive you still aren't getting a ton of value. If you didn't pre-order its like $8 per month. Compare DC Universe to something like Netflix or Hulu which are only a bit more for far more content and a broader range to appeal to more people.

Red Hood

I have a feeling that much like every other digital media, all these companies are going to fold back into one simple streaming service in the long run. All these studios wanted to have their own proprietary digital downloading service like UV, Disney Movies Anywhere, Vudu, CinemaNow, etc. At the end, they saw that it was more expensive to run these services, so now we have Movies Anywhere. I got a feeling that after several of these services being to stumble due to low subs or simply low popularity, everything will go back to being in 2-3 streaming services at the most.

robin2099

You DO realize that DCU was pretty much always meant to be a niche service right? Not everything has to compete with Netflix, Amazon and Hulu. Hell, you might as well ask why something like Cinemax(which is niche) has their own service also instead of just being folded into HBO. As for Disney's service? A lot of the value will be placed on what you want to see. If all I want to see is Marvel and don't give a shit about Disney and Star Wars, will I really want to pay $14.99 a month for access to it?

E Unit

You're talking two different things with this. UV and MA are digital rights which several studios have joined in on. UV is headed out and MA its taking over (due to better excryption). Vudu is just a streaming service for UV/MA and is still going strong due to early establishment. CinemaNow, another streaming service for then UV, died beacuse they couldn't get on the ball fast enough. But these are a much different story than say Netflix and Hulu who put out their own original material. DC Universe is a part of WB which is why I think they just need to add it to their streaming service. DC Universe alone won't get very far, even with original shows.

Mike86

Cinemax isn’t sold as its own thing. You have it as an add on with cable or satellite. It can afford to be niche because that’s generally not all you’re going to be getting. HBO is about the only service that’s been able to break off on its own largely because they produce high quality original shows people are willing to pay for.

I wouldn’t say Cinemax is quite as niche as DC Universe is though either. Cinemax plays a variety of newer and older films plus they have some original shows. They don’t limit themselves to one thing only like DC Universe does by catering only to comic fans.

If people want it by all means it’s fine, but from a business perspective it doesn’t seem to make a lot of sense to me. When you do something like a streaming service you’re going to be compared with what you’re competing with, and there are options out there that are in close to the same price range that offer a lot more. Do you really think the average person is subscribing to DC Universe to watch a bunch of old tv shows (many of which weren’t the greatest and were cancelled early on) and old movies? Sure that’s not all they have but that’s a big part of their library. Five or six (I can’t remember all the new ones off hand) new shows isn’t squat and the people interested will probably subscribe for a month or two and catch up before cancelling. That’s pretty much my plan at this point.

Lumping everything together for one price gives the service more value to the average person. That gives your service a broader reach, which means it does well and you’re able to create more new content. That’s why Netflix is so successful and that’s why Disney likely will be as well. I’d be very curious to see the numbers on DC Universe versus the competition.

PhantomStranger

The proposed Disney service is supposed to be very expensive on a monthly basis. People are in for sticker shock when that gets unveiled.

E Unit

Doubtful. They know who and what they’re going up against.

http://fortune.com/2018/08/27/disney...ice-netflix-2/

Mike86

Disney isn't stupid. They know if they go much higher than Netflix people aren't going to buy into it. I'm betting somewhere between $10 and $15. It probably will be like Netflix where they charge depending on how many screens you want it active on.

Shannon Nutt

The DC Universe app is still a disaster - very little content, almost nothing (aside from animated titles) made in the last 10 years, and an online community that doesn't allow you to connect with other fans. I don't know how you get this many things wrong, but they managed to do it. My "guess" is it will fold completely in about three years, because while they have a ton of sign-ups now (because of their non-refundable 15-month promotion), people will be bailing like crazy next December. I mean they'll only have six original shows by this time next year, and none of them running concurrently (with the exception of Stargirl/Harley Quinn next fall) with each other - so $8 a month for four new episodes of something, a dozen archival shows, a dozen archival movies, and 2,500 random comic books?

DC couldn't even offer up live streaming from the NYCC - how hard would that have been? That was a complete fail by them.