Netflix - News & Discussion
#1426
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Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
And put a Skip button onscreen during the halftime show.
Here’s a report about their ad-supported service, seems their first sponsors include Bud Light and a car company: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/netfl...eaming-devices
Here’s a report about their ad-supported service, seems their first sponsors include Bud Light and a car company: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/netfl...eaming-devices
#1427
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Verizon is finally giving their customers "free" Netflix for 12 months. However unlike other providers you have to sign up for one of their other specific +play add-ons.
Cheapest one appears to be NFL+ for $25. Note the NFL subscription is a seasonal one and only goes through 7/31/23
Other choices are:
NBA league pass - $90/season
Peloton Annual - $130
AMC+ Annual - $84
Calm Premium Annual - $70
Super Duolingo Annual - $84
But at least they offer Netflix 4k. After 1 year, Netflix goes to $19.99/month.
https://plusplay.verizon.com/
Cheapest one appears to be NFL+ for $25. Note the NFL subscription is a seasonal one and only goes through 7/31/23
Other choices are:
NBA league pass - $90/season
Peloton Annual - $130
AMC+ Annual - $84
Calm Premium Annual - $70
Super Duolingo Annual - $84
But at least they offer Netflix 4k. After 1 year, Netflix goes to $19.99/month.
https://plusplay.verizon.com/
Already have a Netflix subscription? Simply sign in with your current credentials after completing your purchase to receive 12 months of Netflix on us, and we'll transfer your billing to +play.
#1428
DVD Talk God
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Fwiw, I did this. Signed for NFL+ to get the free year. Sort of a pain in the ass how many hoops you have to get through to link up the accounts, but it is done. Got confirmation of my free year. I always buy gift cards and load them up rather than pay Netflix directly, so I doubt Verizon will ever bill me. In fact, I think I had like $80 in credit on my account, so it will just revert to that billing once the free year is done. I will take the nearly free year of premium. 

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#1429
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Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
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#1430
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Saw that earlier. Not that I like it but from Netflix’s side of things it makes sense and I’m honestly surprised they haven’t cracked down on password sharing sooner. The amount of people who do it must add up to a ton of lost revenue for them.
Right now my fiancée and I share her mom and dad’s account (we share HBO Max and Paramount+ with them). Wondering when other services are going to follow suit.
Right now my fiancée and I share her mom and dad’s account (we share HBO Max and Paramount+ with them). Wondering when other services are going to follow suit.
#1431
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
I see a lot of Twitter posts threatening to cancel their service if they can’t share anymore. Yea f’n right! That’s an empty threat.
The only downside for Netflix is the decrease in viewership for shows. That’s almost guaranteed, since not everyone who is viewing for free will sign up for a new account. The additional fee for an extra “outside IP address” profile is reasonable, and I give Netflix a thumbs up if they do that.
There are also other tweets that ask about sharing an account within a household (multiple profiles), so that’s a hint they aren’t familiar with the restrictions like Hulu Live, which reads the IP address. So of course sharing within the “home” location is ok.
The only downside for Netflix is the decrease in viewership for shows. That’s almost guaranteed, since not everyone who is viewing for free will sign up for a new account. The additional fee for an extra “outside IP address” profile is reasonable, and I give Netflix a thumbs up if they do that.
There are also other tweets that ask about sharing an account within a household (multiple profiles), so that’s a hint they aren’t familiar with the restrictions like Hulu Live, which reads the IP address. So of course sharing within the “home” location is ok.
#1432
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
I'll definitely be downgrading but doubt I'd be canceling outright. Main reason I have the top tier package is so I can share the account easily with my parents.
#1433
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
I don't have Netflix, nor do I share passwords for any services I do have. How does the IP address thing work with regards to people watching on mobile devices, or at places like work, as well as at home? They would each likely have wildly different IP addresses, indicating password sharing.
#1434
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
I don't have Netflix, nor do I share passwords for any services I do have. How does the IP address thing work with regards to people watching on mobile devices, or at places like work, as well as at home? They would each likely have wildly different IP addresses, indicating password sharing.
#1435
DVD Talk Reviewer & TOAT Winner
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
They have a lot of balls doing that when they now charge $20 per month just to get 4k. They justify that by also allowing 4 users at a time, but if they block people outside one home then they need to have a cheaper plan that gets 4k with only one viewer at a time.
#1436
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
With regards to Hulu Live, you only get four “home” changes a year. So it’s prohibitive to share your password. Even if you want to use it while traveling. That’s one of the complaints for people who own a second home/traveling - not being able to use Hulu Live back and forth between IP addresses (and they are not password sharing). Hulu doesn’t seem to care about this complaint.
Maybe Netflix will do it differently and not have limits on “home” location changes. So the user would be able to do travel viewing (or even share the password), but if two different IP addresses try to access Netflix at the exact same time, it will not work. So sharing within the household is ok in that case (multiple profiles accessing on single IP address). That’s my guess on how it will work. Now I understand that wouldn't be fair for example, an adult (traveling) and teenager kid (home), who should be able to share passwords since they all live in the same household. That’s Netflix’s problem to figure out, not mine haha
Maybe Netflix will do it differently and not have limits on “home” location changes. So the user would be able to do travel viewing (or even share the password), but if two different IP addresses try to access Netflix at the exact same time, it will not work. So sharing within the household is ok in that case (multiple profiles accessing on single IP address). That’s my guess on how it will work. Now I understand that wouldn't be fair for example, an adult (traveling) and teenager kid (home), who should be able to share passwords since they all live in the same household. That’s Netflix’s problem to figure out, not mine haha
#1437
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#1438
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Or they just say 4k is $20, with no further explanation.
#1439
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Netflix is now detailing how it aims to maintain password sharing within a household while cracking down on outside usage. The company aims to curtail account sharing this year by asking people to pay extra money to use the streaming service outside the household for extended periods of time.
The streaming giant has shared terms detailing how it plans to control the experience within a household. It has updated its FAQ pages for countries where it is already testing extra membership fees for account sharing — Chile, Costa Rica and Peru.
These new terms ask people to define a primary location through their TV. All the accounts and devices should be connected to the same Wi-Fi as the TV.
“A primary location is set by a TV that is signed into your account and is connected to your Wi-Fi network. All other devices signed into your account on that Wi-Fi network will be associated with your primary location and will be able to use Netflix,” it says.
If a user doesn’t set a primary location or doesn’t have a TV, Netflix will automatically set a primary location based on IP address, device IDs and activity.
After that, people living in this home who want to use Netflix on their own device have to launch the app at home at least once every 31 days.
“To ensure that your devices are associated with your primary location, connect to the Wi-Fi at your primary location, open the Netflix app or website, and watch something at least once every 31 days,” the company says on its support page.
But what if you grabbed an iPad before leaving the house for a long train ride but you rarely use this iPad at home? Chances are the device won’t be associated with your household when you try to watch something on the go. In that case, you can ask the main account holder to verify the device for you. The account holder will receive a code that they can relay to the person who is traveling. If the verification is successful the traveling member can watch Netflix for seven more days without any additional prompt.
It’s unclear if you can request temporary codes several times in a row. For instance, some students would rather request a code from their parents every week instead of paying for Netflix. These conditions also prevent folks from using Netflix through VPN connections for a long period of time.
The streaming company has made a ton of efforts to get more paying users on its platform. In Novemeber, it launched a cheaper $6.99 ad-supported monthly plan in the U.S., the U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Australia, Japan, Korea and Brazil. Meanwhile, it has also launched tools to kick devices off a subscription and transfer a profile from one membership to another to stop account sharing.
All these efforts have brought in more subscribers to the service. During its recent Q4 2022 quarterly results, the company said it added 7.7 million subscribers — much higher than the anticipated 4.5 million additions.
Netflix will go through a product overhaul under the new co-CEO Greg Peters (formerly COO) after founder Reed Hastings stepped down from the post last month. At the same time, the company said that it will crack down on password sharing “more broadly” in the coming months. Extra member fees will likely come to more countries soon.
The streaming giant has shared terms detailing how it plans to control the experience within a household. It has updated its FAQ pages for countries where it is already testing extra membership fees for account sharing — Chile, Costa Rica and Peru.
These new terms ask people to define a primary location through their TV. All the accounts and devices should be connected to the same Wi-Fi as the TV.
“A primary location is set by a TV that is signed into your account and is connected to your Wi-Fi network. All other devices signed into your account on that Wi-Fi network will be associated with your primary location and will be able to use Netflix,” it says.
If a user doesn’t set a primary location or doesn’t have a TV, Netflix will automatically set a primary location based on IP address, device IDs and activity.
After that, people living in this home who want to use Netflix on their own device have to launch the app at home at least once every 31 days.
“To ensure that your devices are associated with your primary location, connect to the Wi-Fi at your primary location, open the Netflix app or website, and watch something at least once every 31 days,” the company says on its support page.
But what if you grabbed an iPad before leaving the house for a long train ride but you rarely use this iPad at home? Chances are the device won’t be associated with your household when you try to watch something on the go. In that case, you can ask the main account holder to verify the device for you. The account holder will receive a code that they can relay to the person who is traveling. If the verification is successful the traveling member can watch Netflix for seven more days without any additional prompt.
It’s unclear if you can request temporary codes several times in a row. For instance, some students would rather request a code from their parents every week instead of paying for Netflix. These conditions also prevent folks from using Netflix through VPN connections for a long period of time.
The streaming company has made a ton of efforts to get more paying users on its platform. In Novemeber, it launched a cheaper $6.99 ad-supported monthly plan in the U.S., the U.K., France, Germany, Italy, Australia, Japan, Korea and Brazil. Meanwhile, it has also launched tools to kick devices off a subscription and transfer a profile from one membership to another to stop account sharing.
All these efforts have brought in more subscribers to the service. During its recent Q4 2022 quarterly results, the company said it added 7.7 million subscribers — much higher than the anticipated 4.5 million additions.
Netflix will go through a product overhaul under the new co-CEO Greg Peters (formerly COO) after founder Reed Hastings stepped down from the post last month. At the same time, the company said that it will crack down on password sharing “more broadly” in the coming months. Extra member fees will likely come to more countries soon.
#1440
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Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Even when they explain the rules, it still doesn't make much sense
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#1441
DVD Talk God
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Oh No what are those college kids with no jobs going to do? How are they going to watch Stranger Things?


#1442
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#1443
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Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
What's with this dependence on Wi-Fi networks? I watch Netflix mainly on a wired device. Is that still gonna work?
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This is stupid. I sometimes don't watch Netflix for 31 days and they're going to block my ipad on my account that I pay for because I didn't watch a show on my ipad in 31 days.... It's going to be a disaster and they're going to lose a lot memberships over this. If you pay for Netflix, you should be able to watch it wherever without jumping through all these hoops and temporary codes for seven days. What if your house burnt down and you're living in a hotel or an apartment or you have to go stay with family for six weeks to help care for a sick relative or you go on a two week vacation and didn't check your devices in?
This is stupid. I sometimes don't watch Netflix for 31 days and they're going to block my ipad on my account that I pay for because I didn't watch a show on my ipad in 31 days.... It's going to be a disaster and they're going to lose a lot memberships over this. If you pay for Netflix, you should be able to watch it wherever without jumping through all these hoops and temporary codes for seven days. What if your house burnt down and you're living in a hotel or an apartment or you have to go stay with family for six weeks to help care for a sick relative or you go on a two week vacation and didn't check your devices in?
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#1445
DVD Talk Platinum Edition
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Why the hell can't they use 2-factor authentication instead of this BS? If Netflix senses a change in the network to which you're connected, trigger 2-factor.
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#1446
DVD Talk God
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
This new system does seem like a convoluted mess.
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#1447
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
2FA may be good for security to prevent unwanted sign-ins, but would it do anything to counter purposeful password sharing, which is Netflix's goal here? This wifi confirmation method at least requires someone to be physically present once a month at the household with the registered account.
#1448
DVD Talk Hero
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Slight retraction on some of it: https://thestreamable.com/news/netfl...scribers-homes
#1449
DVD Talk Limited Edition
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Maybe the goal was to make it as complicated and confusing as possible. Users might just give up trying to figure out a workaround and purchase separate accounts haha
#1450
DVD Talk Legend
Re: Netflix - News & Discussion
Well, I have had an account for many years and will be gone from home at some point in the next few months for two weeks, so there is that. Now, as a loyal customer, I'm expected to jump through hoops to log into our account from our home network while nobody is there to do so. Sounds like a great way to treat loyal, longtime subscribers.