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Old 01-09-22, 03:42 AM
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Official 2022 NFL Off-Season Thread

Starting this thread just a little early as I will be at the SNF game and won't have time during the day to start this thread.

Besides at least the Broncos are already in the off-season now and Vic Fangio's future is up in the air at the moment. We should know more by Monday
Speaking of the Broncos, apparently their ownership situation should be significantly clearer this off-season. Right now it's a huge mess with those Bowlen kids fighting for control. My guess is that the NFL is going to push the family to sell the team.
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And there it is. Vic Fangio fired after three seasons and two consecutive last place finishes in the Division. Andy Reid now the only coach in the division with more than one year tenure.
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Jacksonville Jaguars have scheduled an interview with current Alabama OC and former Houston HC Bill O'Brien next week. Best of luck if they decide to go in that direction.
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I wonder if Bienemy will consider the Denver job. Although he would probably prefer a job outside of the same division as KC, that team has some really nice pieces on offense (3 pretty good WRs, a TE with potential, and a RB with really good potential) and may only be a decent QB from being KC of the mountains.
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And the Broncos have the 9th pick and 11 picks and 5 in the top 100 so that has to be the best job though you have to deal with the Chiefs and Chargers who are still a threat even if they never make the playoffs.
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Re: Official 2022 NFL Off-Season Thread

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And the Broncos have the 9th pick and 11 picks and 5 in the top 100 so that has to be the best job though you have to deal with the Chiefs and Chargers who are still a threat even if they never make the playoffs.
Don't forget the Raiders, they made the playoffs. It's probably the best division in football.
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Re: Official 2022 NFL Off-Season Thread

The Broncos are just a QB away from being a playoff team (assuming the defense doesn't regress).
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The Broncos are just a QB away from being a playoff team (assuming the defense doesn't regress).
The Browns, Colts, Saints, Vikings and WFTs say "HI".
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Going in to 2022, where does the (arguably) most talented RB in the league end up? If not for prior injury issues he'd be the most in demand RB in free agency.




A fascinating, and completely improbable, stat - both Penny and Saquon Barkley had 34 yards rushing in 2020 (due to missing most of the season with injuries). That's almost impossible, statistically. Almost, but obviously NOT completely impossible since it happened. Just highly unlikely. I find that stat even more interesting since those two were compared a lot coming out of college into the 2018 draft.

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Chiefs OC Eric Bieniemy reported to be the favorite to replace Zimmer in Minnesota.
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I'm pretty sure Carrol loves Penny (though not as much as B5Erik... if you find a woman who looks at you like B5Erik looks at Penny...), so if Carrol is back (or even if he isn't) I'd think he'd stay in Seattle. I can't see anyone offer him a boatload of money if only because of his position, let alone his injury risk.
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Going in to 2022, where does the (arguably) most talented RB in the league end up?
I don't think it is even an argument that he is not the most talented.
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Bears are supposedly interested in Flores.
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Bears are supposedly interested in Flores.
All the other coach less teams should be. I remember when both Tony Dungey and Andy Reid were hired the day after they were fired. Those were both smart moves. This should be like that : make the call and hire him immediately.
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I don't think it is even an argument that he is not the most talented.
Well, his numbers and video over the last 5 games say otherwise...

No one was even close over that 5 game stretch.
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I don't think it is even an argument that he is not the most talented.
I didn't know that Derrick Henry had passed. RIP.
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Chicago has requested to interview a bunch of candidates already. Besides Flores, they reportedly would like to interview Todd Bowles (Bucs DC), Brian Daboll (Bills OC), Matt Eberblus (Colts DC), Leslie Frazier (Bills DC), Nathaniel Hackett (Packers OC), Byron Leftwich (Bucs OC), Doug Pederson (ex-Eagles HC), and Dan Quinn (Cowboys DC).
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I didn't know that Derrick Henry had passed. RIP.
Henry has been great, but this season? Well, he missed half the season. Even so, his numbers were just above average for the games he played.

Jonathan Taylor is the big dog this year, but let's look at the numbers...

Taylor hit runs of 20+ once every 23.7 carries. Henry hit them once every 73 carries. Penny, however, hit runs of 20+ once every 10.8 carries. More than twice as often, per carry, than Taylor. That's a HUGE difference.

How about 40+ yard runs. Taylor hit those once every 66.4 carries. Henry once every 109 carries. Penny, once every 59.5 carries. Penny is tops in that category too.

How about TD's per rush attempt? Taylor hit a TD once every 18.4 carries. Henry, once every 21.9 carries. Penny, once every 19.8 carries. Not a big spread, they're all close there.

Yards per carry? Penny is the best there. Taylor averaged 5.45 (a great number for an NFL back). Henry 4.28 (decent). Penny, 6.29 (phenomenal number).

Let's look at a common opponent. AT Arizona, Taylor went 27 for 108 and a TD. HOME against AZ, Henry went 17 for 58 and 0 TD's. At AZ Penny went 23 for 190 and a TD.

So, when you look at the numbers, and the video of the last 5 weeks (in which Penny also did a very good job in pass protection, to be a complete back), who was the best back in the NFL down the stretch? It's not even close. Penny was the best.

He won't get Ezekiel Elliott money, but he will get a decent contract, and if he stays healthy next year he may be the leading rusher in the league in 2022. He would have been this year if he had been healthy all year long. He wasn't. That knee injury in December, 2019, had a lasting impact that he didn't really get over, fully, until the middle of this season. Once he was 100% again he was the dominant back in the league.

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Henry has been great, but this season? Well, he missed half the season. Even so, his numbers were just above average for the games he played
He played in 8 games this season. Penny played in 10. Henry had 937 yards in those games, for a 117 yd/game average. Penny had 749, or a 75 yd/game average.

But you know what they say, Love is Blind.
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He played in 8 games this season. Penny played in 10. Henry had 937 yards in those games, for a 117 yd/game average. Penny had 749, or a 75 yd/game average.

But you know what they say, Love is Blind.
Penny barely played in those early games. He wasn't healthy.

Look at the stats I posted. That's a more evenhanded way to measure. Yards per carry. Number of 20+ yards per carry per attempts. Number of 40+ yard carries per attempts. Number of TD's per attempts.

Penny is far and away the leader of 20+ yard carries. It's not even close. He leads on 40+ yard carries. He's also the leader on yards per carry. He's right there on TD's per attempt.

The stats back it up. When he's in there, he's the most productive back in the NFL per carry.
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Penny barely played in those early games. He wasn't healthy.

Look at the stats I posted. That's a more evenhanded way to measure. Yards per carry. Number of 20+ yards per carry per attempts. Number of 40+ yard carries per attempts. Number of TD's per attempts.

Penny is far and away the leader of 20+ yard carries. It's not even close. He leads on 40+ yard carries. He's also the leader on yards per carry. He's right there on TD's per attempt.

The stats back it up. When he's in there, he's the most productive back in the NFL per carry.
So you're picking him number 1 in fantasy next year, no matter what, right?
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So you're picking him number 1 in fantasy next year, no matter what, right?
If I were playing, maybe. I haven't played fantasy football in 10 years (it took up too much time, but I played for about 12 years before that).

If Penny stays healthy (granted, a BIG if) he could easily be the leading rusher next year. He was the leading rusher over the last 5 weeks of this season, and had the best yards per carry of any starting back in the league. He's a big play machine.

Did you see the Seahawks/Cardinals game? He took them apart. Henry struggled and got very little against them. Taylor struggled, but did OK. Penny took them apart.
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Penny had 8 yards against Indy, Henry had 113. Penny had 7 yards on 7 carries against the Jags, Henry had 130 and a 4.5 y/a average. But by all means, just cherry-pick the one common opponent where Penny had a career game against to prove your point.
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Penny had 8 yards against Indy, Henry had 113. Penny had 7 yards on 7 carries against the Jags, Henry had 130 and a 4.5 y/a average. But by all means, just cherry-pick the one common opponent where Penny had a career game against to prove your point.
Penny was a 3rd string back in those games, and was injured. Talk about cherry picking. (And, using the Indy game? Penny had two carries, but you failed to mention that, just said, "8 yards against Indy." He was still fighting that nagging injury against the Jags and shouldn't have played, even as a relief back.)

How about stats that aren't just, "He only got 7 yards in game X!" How about yards per carry for the entire season? How about number of big runs per attempt? (Runs of 20+ and 40+) How about TD's per attempt? He leads in all of those categories except one, and that one he's damned close!

I picked the Cardinals because it was the one common opponent game that all three of them started and all three of them were healthy for. (IE: A fair comparison.)

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