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Old 11-23-21, 03:42 PM
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NFL 2021 Week 12 Thread

Thursday games

Chicago Bears at Detroit Lions, 10:30 a.m., Fox

These NFC North rivals are a combined 3-16-1 on the season and the Lions don't account for any of those wins with a 0-9-1 record.

Las Vegas Raiders at Dallas Cowboys, 2:30 p.m., CBS

Every NFL team playing on Thanksgiving lost in Week 11. The Raiders and the Cowboys both looked terrible in their games on Sunday.

Buffalo Bills at New Orleans Saints, 6:20 p.m., NBC

The Bills continued to disappoint in their embarrassing loss against the Indianapolis Colts.


Sunday early games

Tampa Bay Buccaneers at Indianapolis Colts, 11 a.m., Fox

The Colts are riding Jonathan Taylor and the running game. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

New York Jets at Houston Texans, 11 a.m., CBS

The Texans stunned the Tennessee Titans in Week 11 and have a great chance to start a win streak against the Jets.

Philadelphia Eagles at New York Giants, 11 a.m., Fox

Jalen Hurts shined with his legs in the Eagles' Week 11 win over the Saints.

Carolina Panthers at Miami Dolphins, 11 a.m., Fox

The Dolphins' defense has impressed as of late and gets a chance to make a statement against the Panthers.

Tennessee Titans at New England Patriots, 11 a.m., CBS

The Patriots are suddenly in the conversation for the top seed in the AFC and would get closer to it with a win over the Titans.

Pittsburgh Steelers at Cincinnati Bengals, 11 a.m., CBS

These AFC North foes always seem to have interesting games against each other.

Atlanta Falcons at Jacksonville Jaguars, 11 a.m., Fox

The Falcons could really use a win here to keep their slim NFC playoff hopes alive.


Sunday late games

Los Angeles Chargers at Denver Broncos, 2:05 p.m., CBS

The AFC West might be the most intriguing division in the NFL right now and both of these teams need a win to help their division title chances.

Los Angeles Rams at Green Bay Packers, 2:25 p.m., Fox

The winner of this game gets a big boost in the playoff race, a race that is getting very interesting in the NFC.

Minnesota Vikings at San Francisco 49ers, 2:25 p.m., Fox

These two teams are suddenly fighting for a playoff berth.


Sunday Night Football

Cleveland Browns at Baltimore Ravens, 6:20 p.m., NBC

The Ravens won without Lamar Jackson in Week 11. They'll need the quarterback to beat the Browns in Week 12.

Monday Night Football

Seattle Seahawks at Washington Football Team, 6:15 p.m., ESPN

It's getting really ugly for the Seahawks. Is the end of the Russell Wilson-Pete Carroll era coming to Seattle?

The Arizona Cardinals and Kansas City Chiefs are on byes in Week 12.
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Re: NFL 2021 Week 12 Thread

NFL Broadcast Maps, Week 12

https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2021&wk=12
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Jason Garrett fired as the Giants OC.
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Well the Cowboys fired him for a reason but it seems that coaches always get recycled.
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Jason Garrett fired as the Giants OC.
Scapegoat. Can't wait for the end of the season when Gettleman and Judge can both walk away hand-in-hand into the sunset.

Gettleman is arguably the worst. I don't care if a running back can run a 4.0 Forty while shitting gold bricks out of his rear end. Running backs are a dime a dozen and generally have a short career and I said it at the time. With that second draft pick they could have had a stud on the offensive line for easily 10 years. So, he spends good money on Patriot disappointment Nate Solder. Woof. Gets Daniel Jones in the first round with the 6th pick, when that project could have easily dropped to the second or third round. Got to go ... got to go ... got to go.
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Well the Cowboys fired him for a reason but it seems that coaches always get recycled.
Ain't that the truth? Nothing both amuses and maddens me more when a bunch of coaches who failed miserably at their jobs get canned, then immediately get hired by another team that just fired their coach for pretty much the exact same reason. You have to wonder if these GMs and owners will find that the milk in the fridge has gone bad, then they put it back in the fridge 'cuz maybe it'll be good tomorrow.
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On the scheduled press conference at Halas Hall; Matt Nagy, when asked directly if he has been informed that he's been fired, denies that fact ever happened. So clearly somebody is lying here.
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Re: NFL 2021 Week 12 Thread

Week 13s SNF game has been flexed from SF/Seattle to Denver/KC
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Figures whenever the 49ers play in primetime it gets flexed out of SNF when they still have something to play for.

If it was Cowboys @ SEA or Giants @ Sea it would not change


If they wanted to flex why not Chargers @ Bengals and Herbert vs Burrow?
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Mike Zimmer tapped this after he beat the Packers








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After 3 games with the Titans and 27 carries later, Adrian Peterson just got kicked to the curb again.
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After somehow allowing the Matt Nagy news to leak prematurely, and left him out hung to dry on the Tuesday press conference, Bears ownership is finally getting some blasts from media about how poorly they handled this situation:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/be...e-coach-hiring

The concluding remarks were especially succinct, even taking a pot shot at some guy in Green Bay.



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Jason Garrett fired as the Giants OC.
Only to replace him with Freddy Kitchens.

Jerry Jones said back then that Jason Garrett will always have a job at the league, so is he gonna bring him back or farm him out to another owner as a positional coach candidate?
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Only to replace him with Freddy Kitchens.
Seriously?

This scares the shit out of me, because every time the Giants do something dumb, the Jets say "That's OUR job in this town" and do something dumber.
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Mike Zimmer tapped this after he beat the Packers










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Wednesday, November 24, 2021
Rams, NFL settle St. Louis' lawsuit over franchise's relocation to Los Angeles for $790 million


ESPN News ServicesST. LOUIS -- The NFL and Rams owner Stan Kroenke will pay $790 million to settle a lawsuit filed by St. Louis interests over the team's relocation to Los Angeles, a joint statement from St. Louis city and county said Wednesday.

The settlement does not include a promise from the NFL to grant St. Louis an expansion franchise in the future, a source familiar with the agreement told ESPN, confirming a report by the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. That idea wasn't seriously discussed, the source told ESPN.

It wasn't immediately clear how much would be paid by Kroenke and how much would be covered by owners of the league's 31 other teams.

"This historic agreement closes a long chapter for our region, securing hundreds of millions of dollars for our communities while avoiding the uncertainty of the trial and appellate process,'' read a statement from St. Louis Mayor Tishaura Jones and St. Louis County Executive Sam Page.



St. Louis area officials haven't yet determined how the settlement funds will be used, the statement said.

An NFL spokesman, in a brief statement, said the league and the St. Louis interests "have been able to fully resolve the dispute.''

The settlement, reached in mediation, ends a 4Ĺ-year-old lawsuit filed in the wake of the Rams' departure. Kroenke and the NFL had failed in bids to have the lawsuit dismissed or at least moved out of St. Louis, and courts were sympathetic to the St. Louis side's effort to disclose financial information of team owners -- rulings that hastened the push for a settlement.

The case had been scheduled to go to trial Jan. 10. The lawsuit sought more than $1 billion. It claimed the team's move cost the St. Louis region millions of dollars in amusement, ticket and earnings tax revenue.

Then-owner Georgia Frontiere moved the Rams from Los Angeles in 1995 to her hometown of St. Louis, where they stayed for 21 seasons before Kroenke moved them back.

Kroenke, a Missouri real estate developer who is married to an heir of the Walmart fortune, became a minority owner when the team first came to St. Louis. Frontiere died in 2008 and left the team to her children, who sold the Rams to Kroenke in 2010.

It wasn't long after that that the Rams began pushing for hundreds of millions of dollars in improvements to the downtown domed stadium built with taxpayer money in the early 1990s to attract an NFL team.

St. Louis interests initially proposed a more modest upgrade, then eventually proposed a new $1 billion stadium along the Mississippi River that would be funded jointly by taxpayers, the team and the NFL. The league and the team balked.

Instead, Kroenke purchased land in Inglewood, California. SoFi Stadium opened in September 2020 and is now home to both the Rams and the Los Angeles Chargers, who moved from San Diego in 2017.

Beyond losing an NFL team, St. Louis residents were incensed by Kroenke's 29-page application to relocate ahead of the January 2016 owners meeting where the move was approved. The document was critical of St. Louis for its decline in population, questioned the region's economic future and called into question whether it could support baseball's Cardinals and hockey's Blues as well as an NFL franchise.

The 2017 lawsuit filed on behalf of St. Louis, St. Louis County and the St. Louis Regional Convention and Sports Complex Authority said Kroenke, other team officials and the league knew as early as 2013 that the Rams planned to relocate but lied in denying it. The lawsuit said the league ignored its own relocation guidelines in allowing the move.

The NFL, Rams and Kroenke said the guidelines aren't iron-clad and the league had the right to approve a move that was clearly in the interest of the NFL and the owners of its 32 teams. The settlement comes after a string of in-court losses for Kroenke and the NFL, America's most popular and lucrative sports league.

St. Louis Circuit Judge Christopher McGraugh ruled in July that there was sufficient evidence that Kroenke and others engaged in fraud, so he ordered NFL owners to release financial records. The purpose was to allow a jury to consider punitive damages if Kroenke and the NFL lost the lawsuit.

Lawyers for NFL officials called the request for records "invasive,'' but the Missouri Supreme Court in September upheld the lower court order.

The NFL and Kroenke had also sought to move the trial out of St. Louis, citing "undue influence'' over prospective jurors. But McGraugh denied the request in August, a decision later backed up by a Missouri appeals court.

Kroenke and the NFL also sought unsuccessfully to have the case heard in arbitration rather than in court.

ESPN's Seth Wickersham and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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Bucs vs Colts, Pats vs Titans, and Rams vs Packers the best games for week 12.

Vikings vs 49ers another good matchup.
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I am not waking up before 9:30am to watch this.

When is the NFL going to learn and not schedule the Lions on Thanksgiving anymore?

It is a lame excuse they give that it is a football game and everybody will watch it no matter who plays.




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The word is that Jared Goff is suiting up for this one, does that change your mind?
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The Lions should play in the CFL (replace them with BC Lions so the NFL won't miss the team nickname).

I wish the NFL would stop kissing the Ford's Familie's ass and stop putting them on tv every Thanksgiving. If the day comes when the Lions are at least .500 then go ahead and put them on again.

Please always remember and never forget-The Lions have won one playoff game in 63 years,
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Can we petitioned the NFL to not have the Detroit Lions played on Thanksgiving every year? The last time they won a playoff game was they beat the Cowboys in 1992 since then they be going downhill. I feel sorry for the people in Detroit they deserved better.
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It might be a watchable game if it werenít also the Bears.
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Can someone explain the history of why the Lions and Cowboys are always playing on Thanksgiving?
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Can someone explain the history of why the Lions and Cowboys are always playing on Thanksgiving?
NFL Thanksgiving Day games history: Why the Lions and Cowboys play every year, best moments, traditions, records
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Please put Nagy/Pace/Philips all out of there misery and fire the whole lot. Go Lions and Goff today. Itís so bad that his own kid at his high school game had to hear students cheering Fire Nagy this past week.

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