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Old 12-21-20, 05:38 PM
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Friday, January 17, 2014
Greene coached like he played, at full speedBy Rob Demovsky
ESPN.comGREEN BAY, Wis. -- If we’re being honest here, I should admit to feeling a little afraid of Kevin Greene the first time I met him.

Those wild eyes in front of that flowing blonde hair, his hulking 6-foot-3 frame, the memories of watching what he did to opposing quarterbacks -- sacking them 160 times in his 15-year NFL playing career -- and his brief stint as a professional wrestler are more than enough to make you feel a little intimidated.

It takes a while for that to go away.

Outside linebackers coach Kevin Greene cared about his players, often referring to them as "my kids."It was just starting to do so in November of 2010, when Greene was halfway through his second season as the Green Bay Packers' outside linebackers coach. That’s when he cornered me in the hallway outside the locker room and wanted to discuss something that appeared in the Green Bay Press-Gazette, my employer at the time, under my byline.

It was a story that was critical of rookie outside linebacker Frank Zombo, who in the previous game against the Minnesota Vikings had missed an open-field tackle that allowed running back Toby Gerhart to convert a third-and-12 dump-off pass into a first down.

Greene asked -- make that told -- me to follow him down the hallway, something that was highly unusual because it was an area normally restricted to reporters, and into the outside linebackers meeting room. He closed the door and opened with this:

“What you wrote about Frank Zombo was unnnnnnnnnjustified," holding the "n" for several seconds.

Over the next 15 minutes, Greene showed about 20 clips from the Vikings’ game. He conceded that the missed tackle of Gerhart was a bad play, but he wanted to make it perfectly clear that he felt Zombo was playing well.

From that film session, a story was born and appeared in the Nov. 26, 2010, edition of the Press-Gazette. Here’s an excerpt:
So Greene cued up play after play.

He showed Zombo in perfect position when dropping in coverage to defend the hook-curl area in the middle of the field.

He showed Zombo knocking one of the Vikings' guards back into the fullback, which freed up inside linebacker A.J. Hawk to tackle Adrian Peterson for a short gain.

He showed Zombo, all 6-foot-3 and 254 pounds of him, bull-rushing Vikings' left tackle Bryant McKinnie (6-8, 335) straight back into [Brett] Favre, who had to throw off balance.

"Who's kicking who's (butt)?" Greene asks rhetorically. "Seriously, straight up. He's changing the line of scrimmage on a guy who weighs 350 pounds and (went to the) Pro Bowl. This is David and Goliath. It's Zombo kicking a big man's (butt), if you ever want to see what a (butt) kicking looks like. McKinnie's job is to hit him in the lips and blow him off the ball, move him off the line of scrimmage. Not the other way around. Whose feet are going back? McKinnie's."

With each highlight Greene showed, the former star outside linebacker, who is in his second season on the Packers' coaching staff, became more excited.

At various points, he'd just yell, "Zombo!"
At one point on that afternoon, a Packers staff member opened the door to see if everything was OK.

To which Greene responded, “OK, we’re almost done.”

But there was one more play he wanted to show on the big screen.

“Watch this run,” Greene said. “They try to run a delayed screen on Zombo. Guess what? Tackle for no gain.”

Zombo would go on to start for the Packers in Super Bowl XLV before injuries derailed his career, which was revived this season with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Greene cared about his players, who he often referred to as “my kids.” He had a passion for the game as a player and he carried it over to his coaching. He coached like he played, full speed ahead.

Perhaps that’s why after only five seasons on the Packers staff, he has decided to step away from coaching, the team announced on Friday, to spend more time with his family.

That hallway, that meeting room may never been the same.
Old 12-21-20, 07:21 PM
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Greene and Greg Loyd were a unstoppable combo in 1995. They should have won Super Bowl 30 vs the Cowboys but Neil O' Donnell was on the take.

I thought he looked like Hulk Hogan.

He was a big personality and will be missed.



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Seven Chiefs selected for the fictional Pro Bowl this year, six starters :


Clearly selections were made before the Saints game where Eric Fisher had one of the worst games of his or any offensive lineman's career and had Mahomes running for his life.

Packers, Seahawks and Ravens also with seven selections each.

Full Roster here :
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-reveals...-2021-pro-bowl
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Jets, Jags, Bengals, Cowboys and Panthers with zero fictional Pro Bowlers selected.
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I just realized my second most favorite thing about there not actually being a Pro Bowl game played: No Pro Bowl selection inflation as half the players drop out of the game. Alternates of alternates to alternates being named Pro Bowl players made the honor virtually meaningless.
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https://www.nfl.com/news/pass-rushin...gn=Twitter_atn

Hall of Famer former Ram and Steeler Kevin Greene dead at 58
Fuck that's awful. 2020 fuck you.
RIP
I wonder what happened?
terrible news! Only 58.
I remember when he played with the 49ers for a short time.
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I said it last year... the Steelers should've started thinking about drafting a QB for the future. Wanted them to pick up Jalen Hurts, but nope - they gotta drain every last drop out of Ben before prepping for the future.

And as I said at the beginning of the season - they REALLY need a real RB.

What a joke.
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Originally Posted by Bill Needle View Post
I just realized my second most favorite thing about there not actually being a Pro Bowl game played: No Pro Bowl selection inflation as half the players drop out of the game. Alternates of alternates to alternates being named Pro Bowl players made the honor virtually meaningless.
Yep, these selections mean more than they have in years.
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I said it last year... the Steelers should've started thinking about drafting a QB for the future. Wanted them to pick up Jalen Hurts, but nope - they gotta drain every last drop out of Ben before prepping for the future.
They already have..Mason Rudolph!
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They already have..Mason Rudolph!
He couldn't even get his helmet on with Myles Garret's help.
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This MNF crew is awful... bring back Tessitore next season!
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Hey. We won.

Suck it, Steelers.
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Wow stunning tailspin for the Steelers. I believe now the only way the Chiefs don't get the 1 Seed and the only AFC bye is if they lose their last two and the Bills and Steelers both win theirs.
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If anyone was really paying attention, the Steelers tailspin was very predictable. Not surprising in the least.
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If anyone was really paying attention, the Steelers tailspin was very predictable. Not surprising in the least.
Not saying I expected them to go 16-0. Has anyone ever gone 11-0 (or even 10-0) and then immediately lost three in a row before?
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Not saying I expected them to go 16-0. Has anyone ever gone 11-0 (or even 10-0) and then immediately lost three in a row before?
I remember that happening not too long ago... just can't remember the team.
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The '86 Jets were 10-1 (I think they lost Week 2), then lost their last 5. Made the playoffs as a WC. I believe they're the only team to make the playoffs on a 5 game losing streak.

In the playoffs they beat the Chefs in the wild card round, lost to Cleveland in double overtime.
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That’s gotta be the Ken O’Brien - Al Toon connection.
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I remember that happening not too long ago... just can't remember the team.
I just looked it up. It has never happened before. The 2015 Patriots started 10-0 and lost four of their final six. Two other 10-0 teams lost three games on the season, the 2008 Titans and the Super Bowl winning 1990 Giants, but none lost three in a row.

Courtesy of an overly optimistic Steelers fan site :
https://steelersnow.com/how-have-pre...0-teams-fared/
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Jamal Adams with 9.5 sacks on the season. That’s pretty darn impressive.
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I wonder if JuJu is gonna rethink his stance on insisting to dance on opponents' logo before the game after this...

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Glad the Bengals won and gave the Steelers D only 2 points and preserved my lead in fantasy.

Kevin Greene seemed like the ultimate Raider and Al Davis type of guy and too bad he never got a chance to play with them.
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Jamal Adams with 9.5 sacks on the season. That’s pretty darn impressive.
Yep, a record for a DB, and he missed four games besides. That’s partly because the Seahawks need to get a pass rush any way they can, and partly because he’s really good.

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That reminds me of the story they told yesterday (which I had heard before) that Sean Payton thought that Patrick Mahomes was the best prospect he had ever seen and was ready to take him at 11. Now maybe that story is true (and Lattimore was a HR pick in its own right), but if you have the clout that Payton does and you really feel he's the best QB prospect that you have ever seen, then you trade up to grab him or tone down the retrospective hype. It sounds disingenious after the fact.
The Athletic had a recent article about that 2017 draft when they took Lattimore, Ramczyk, Marcus Williams, and Kamara. It talked a lot about how much they liked Mahomes and told Brees they might draft him at 11, though I don’t recall talk about the best QB prospect ever. But they had Lattimore ranked top 4 and their top priority was improving their defense, so that pick made sense. Sure would’ve been interesting to see Mahomes there, though.
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Wow stunning tailspin for the Steelers. I believe now the only way the Chiefs don't get the 1 Seed and the only AFC bye is if they lose their last two and the Bills and Steelers both win theirs.
To revise my previous post, in order for the Chiefs to NOT get the #1 Seed and the Bye, not only would they have to lose their last two games at home, not only would both the Steelers and the Bills have to win their last two games, but also the following would have to happen : MIN beats NO, DET beats TB, CIN beats HOU, JAX beats CHI, CLE beats NYJ, WAS beats CAR, then KC is the #2 seed.
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Wow Ben had a worse night that I thought


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