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This is an extremely long article that took me nearly the entire day to finish so it's not for the faint of heart. It went into great details on how each franchise came to their conclusion in the selection of the 2017 QB class...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...w6m-story.html

But the main takeaway from it is the fact that the Bears FO, namely Ryan Pace, had some inherent bias going into the evaluation process. Bears (Pace) went into it looking for the next Drew Brees, and apparently Trubisky best fit the profile of what they were looking for, among other traits that hits home with Pace that had less to do with on-field skill set. The Bears GM also decided to completely dismiss DeShaun Watson and didn't even have dinner with him in their evaluation process, but did so with the other two QBs.

Granted, hindsight is 20/20 and the Bears were not the only ones who thought Trubisky was the best QB prospect out of 2017. But the fact that Pace went all in with Trubisky and traded four picks for him meant that he and his organization have tied their entire fortune to that choice and will sink or swim with it. Ironically, Pace looked like a genius during last year's 12-4 run and even won the "executive of the year" award. However, things sure have taken a turn for the worse and Chicago could now be stuck due to Pace's free spending on all the non-QB positions. Not to mention, whether Ryan Pace is going to choose Mitch Trubisky as the hill that he'll die on.
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I've said this in the past : I understand that it's hard to find 32 guys with both the elite physical skills, leadership abilities and mental acumen to be successful starting QBs in the NFL. I can accept that there will always be teams looking to improve that premium position.
But Kicker? Really? There aren't 32 guys worldwide (because it's the only real skill that can translate from soccer to American Football internationally) who can kick a ball 50 yards through the uprights? All the current NFL kickers, all 110 college kickers, soccer players, everything?
It seems like a position that maybe there should be more of a premium on. Nobody drafts a kicker in the first three rounds and will be mocked if they do. But maybe they should if they see some real talent on the collegiate level?
​​​​​​​ I agree. I think that like coaches, teams are loathe to recruit an unknown or unproven talent (on the NFL level) when it comes to a kicker, and instead end up recycling the same bunch of guys. Guy gets cut from one team for inconsistency, another picks him up. I.E., we know he's bad, but at least he's been there before. Seriously, teams employ that same metric when hiring a coach. It works out pretty much the same way with either job.
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Packers @ 49ers for Week 12 has been flexed into SNF replacing Seahawks @ Eagles.



The NFL has finalized a Week 16 Saturday triple-header, and it's quite a doozy. In the penultimate week of the 2019 NFL regular season, NFL Network will play host to three games on Saturday, Dec. 21.

They are as follows (all times ET)
Houston Texans at Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1 p.m.
Buffalo Bills at New England Patriots, 4:30 p.m.
Los Angeles Rams at San Francisco 49ers, 8:15 p.m.


Before the season, the NFL set aside five games in Week 16 to be potentially flexed to the NFL Network's Saturday triple-header. The two games that will remain on Sunday are Detroit Lions at Denver Broncos (4:05 p.m., CBS) and Oakland Raiders at Los Angeles Chargers (4:05 p.m., CBS).The back-to-back-to-back games feature two intra-divisional matchups, could feature five potential playoff teams and will have have major playoff implications. In Bills-Pats, Part I, New England barely won, 16-10, in Buffalo in a Week 4 matchup of undefeateds. San Francisco throttled Los Angeles, 20-6 in their first meeting in Week 6. Houston has not played Tampa Bay since 2015.
NFL announces Week 16 Saturday triple-header - NFL.com
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The 49ers lost so no it was not a good game.

Joe Staley maybe came back too early and Clowney ruined the game for the Niners. They had McGlichey, Staley, and Juszczyk back and the offense was suppose to be better than this.

I thought the Seahawks had one of the worst defenses in the league and the 49ers can't move the ball on them???
The Bucs scored 34 points against them last week.
I know Sanders and Kittle were out but dam it that is no excuse.
Maybe the 49ers got fat by feeding on the weak and the losses are going to pile up in the 2nd half of the season.
I believe the 49ers beat them next time in Seattle. But a few or one thing need to happen.
Jimmy G needs to settle down and hit some young tail and quit smashing old porn stars.
Really I still say he is rusty from the injury and will see him do much better next year,I say he gets better, but really not sure what to expect.
49ers and Jimmy need Kittle and Sanders a close second.
shanny needs to grow and improve from this game. I really like his potential as a HC, but some of his draft picks are straight trash.
I like Samual,but that wr from the 2018 draft petta something was a reach and mistake.

Clowney should have been double teamed. Or as much as I like Staley,take him out and put Skule in. same with McGlinchey,not sure how many snaps these two took, but they should have been rotated with other linemen. Really wish we drafted a lineman higher in the last draft.
division games are almost always tough. the 49ers beat the hags last year with Mulens and stop them from making the playoffs?

49ers had to pick up some rookie kicker off the street . Can not count on him to win the game.
damn the 49ers D is special. the offense just has to play average and stop the turn overs.
And fuck injuries .. I have not even check on who is hurt this week.

The NFC playoffs are going to be crazy good this year. AFC I think it is the Ravens or NE who makes the SB.

Seachickens are one of the teams I love to see lose, so am disappointed.
Rep +1000. pete carroll has a very punchable face.
If the 49ers are not in the superbowl anytime. I really want to see KC win it all.
Not sure if Reid is the HC to do it. I know it is hard to fire a winning coach, but Philly did it with Reid.
really any one but NE,Dallas,GB or Seahawks can win the SB and I'll be happy with it.

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Bosa has not had any sacks in the last two games and hope he has not hit the rookie wall.

The ideal situation would be if they don't have to win in Seattle and they already clinched homefield and the NFC West but beating the Packers, Saints, and Ravens is going to be tough.

Next year they need to draft another WR and one or two more O lineman and maybe get a O line as good as the Cowboys if that is possible.
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I've said this in the past : I understand that it's hard to find 32 guys with both the elite physical skills, leadership abilities and mental acumen to be successful starting QBs in the NFL. I can accept that there will always be teams looking to improve that premium position.
But Kicker? Really? There aren't 32 guys worldwide (because it's the only real skill that can translate from soccer to American Football internationally) who can kick a ball 50 yards through the uprights? All the current NFL kickers, all 110 college kickers, soccer players, everything?
It seems like a position that maybe there should be more of a premium on. Nobody drafts a kicker in the first three rounds and will be mocked if they do. But maybe they should if they see some real talent on the collegiate level?
At this point, if I'm Brandon Beane then I might check out Carli Lloyd for a try out.
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At this point, if I'm Brandon Beane then I might check out Carli Lloyd for a try out.
Or Kathy Ireland!
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This is an extremely long article that took me nearly the entire day to finish so it's not for the faint of heart. It went into great details on how each franchise came to their conclusion in the selection of the 2017 QB class...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sport...w6m-story.html

But the main takeaway from it is the fact that the Bears FO, namely Ryan Pace, had some inherent bias going into the evaluation process. Bears (Pace) went into it looking for the next Drew Brees, and apparently Trubisky best fit the profile of what they were looking for, among other traits that hits home with Pace that had less to do with on-field skill set. The Bears GM also decided to completely dismiss DeShaun Watson and didn't even have dinner with him in their evaluation process, but did so with the other two QBs.

Granted, hindsight is 20/20 and the Bears were not the only ones who thought Trubisky was the best QB prospect out of 2017. But the fact that Pace went all in with Trubisky and traded four picks for him meant that he and his organization have tied their entire fortune to that choice and will sink or swim with it. Ironically, Pace looked like a genius during last year's 12-4 run and even won the "executive of the year" award. However, things sure have taken a turn for the worse and Chicago could now be stuck due to Pace's free spending on all the non-QB positions. Not to mention, whether Ryan Pace is going to choose Mitch Trubisky as the hill that he'll die on.
I read the whole thing and thought it was interesting. No surprise that opinions on the three quarterbacks varied greatly, and of course thereís no way to tell how development played a part in where they are now. The question now, as you say, is where do the Bears go from here. Due to a pick that so far hasnít worked out, this Bears era could be over before it really got started.
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Who is the last, very good Bears QB? McMahon probably (some might say Cutler, but I'd disagree)? If Mahomes went to Chicago or Detroit, he'd suck balls there too. Some teams just don't know how to develop players. Chicago is great at building defenses - they should stick to that and try to get a proven vet to lead their team -- somebody who isn't prone to turnovers.
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Who is the last, very good Bears QB? McMahon probably (some might say Cutler, but I'd disagree)? If Mahomes went to Chicago or Detroit, he'd suck balls there too. Some teams just don't know how to develop players. Chicago is great at building defenses - they should stick to that and try to get a proven vet to lead their team -- somebody who isn't prone to turnovers.
Isn't Nagy mainly an offensive coach? He certainly does not like to run the ball.
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https://people.com/sports/colin-kaep...I52pFjJRMxgrrE

Kaep is trying out for all 32 NFL teams on Saturday

So I guess his NFL exile could end unless he really looks like shit.
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The Colts tried out other kickers but chose to stay with Vinatieri because of course they would. Loyalty is far more important than competency or winning football games.

Maybe they can induct him into the Ring of Honor that first weekend in January instead of playing a Playoff game!
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Who is the last, very good Bears QB? McMahon probably (some might say Cutler, but I'd disagree)? If Mahomes went to Chicago or Detroit, he'd suck balls there too. Some teams just don't know how to develop players. Chicago is great at building defenses - they should stick to that and try to get a proven vet to lead their team -- somebody who isn't prone to turnovers.
To be honest, the last very good (as in among the best in the league) Bears QB was probably playing in an era before anybody here is born. But McMahon is at least a solid, acceptable answer since he was a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

Also, Cutler would not be considered a very good QB in my book. But interestingly, Cutler somehow "helped" in bringing Mitchell Trubisky to Chicago, though not through any type of direct involvement in his part. So Jay Cutler, being a surly, apathetic individual, really turned off a lot of people, including the Bears FO. Then along came Trubisky, an energetic, positive person, that is almost the polar opposite of Cutler. Apparently Trubisky's "good" personality was one of the factors that ultimately led to his selection in 2017.
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Jets owner says Adam Gase will be head coach in 2020 - NFL.com

Adam Gase will return as Jets head coach in 2020.

Some heads will turn with this news.
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The Colts tried out other kickers but chose to stay with Vinatieri because of course they would. Loyalty is far more important than competency or winning football games.
Vinatieri should just come out and say, "Look, I love the Colts organization, and it has become clear to me that they are too loyal to me personally to release me as they clearly should do. So today I am announcing my retirement for the good of the franchise."
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https://people.com/sports/colin-kaep...I52pFjJRMxgrrE

Kaep is trying out for all 32 NFL teams on Saturday

So I guess his NFL exile could end unless he really looks like shit.
Seems like a sham. What coach or GM is going to go to a workout on a Saturday when they have a game the next day? Workouts are usually done on Tuesdays, so why is the league making him do it on a Saturday? Why did they refuse his request to delay it to the following Saturday to give teams more time to make accommodations?

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Vinatieri should just come out and say, "Look, I love the Colts organization, and it has become clear to me that they are too loyal to me personally to release me as they clearly should do. So today I am announcing my retirement for the good of the franchise."
He has 2 million decent reasons to just stay the course...
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Or Kathy Ireland!
Oh yeah!!!!
At least she's look great doing it.
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He has 2 million decent reasons to just stay the course...
But he's already collected half of that, and there are ways to recoup the remainder from a secretly elated Colts front office...like extremely favorable terms on the loan used to open his first auto dealership.
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Jets owner says Adam Gase will be head coach in 2020 - NFL.com

Adam Gase will return as Jets head coach in 2020.

Some heads will turn with this news.
Yeah, as a Jets' fan, that was a real punch in the gut. Silver lining is that Gase was also given the notorious "vote of confidence", which is always the kiss of death. Here's hoping...

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