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Old 09-14-21, 12:03 PM
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Tennis being an international sport makes scheduling more difficult. Having the final in the afternoon means that Europeans don't have to watch it in the middle of the night. And we had a Russian and a Serb in the final. However, moving it a week earlier to avoid the start of the NFL would make a lot of sense.
IIRC, they tried to shift the women's final to primetime on Saturday night for a year or three. I recall this obnoxious final between the Williams sisters where they had musical acts and dance numbers and a bunch of crap like that.
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Old 09-14-21, 04:27 PM
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Deep dive on the strategy Medvedev used to beat Djokovic, and how he used previous matches, including the beatdown at the AO, to come up with his game plan. In a nutshell, unpredictability on serve messed up Djokovic's usually supreme returning, and keeping a lot of balls in the middle (often with little pace) denied him angles. Djokovic tried to attack Medvedev's running forehand, a strategy he was successful with before, but the lack of angles meant less running (not as far wide) and more time to hit the forehand which was much more solid than what Novak had faced previously i.e. it didn't work.

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I've seen reports the Women's Final had higher ratings than the Men's Final at the US Open. If true, it appears the casual Nadal and Federer fans decided they didn't need to see Djokovic go for history. The men's game is going to become far less popular once Federer and Nadal officially hang it up.

There's no way Federer going for a Grand Slam would be outdrawn by the women's final.
Old 09-15-21, 12:57 PM
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This only happened because of the Raducanu and Fernandez story, and you'll never see that again. And as mentioned above, you had football competing with the men's final. I woudn't read that much into ratings because this was a highly unusual weekend. Men's tennis will be fine.
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This only happened because of the Raducanu and Fernandez story, and you'll never see that again.
Not sure about the "never again" part, but yeah, otherwise agree. Had this been Sabalenka v. Sakkari, for example, it would have greatly reduced the ratings.
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Not sure about the "never again" part, but yeah, otherwise agree. Had this been Sabalenka v. Sakkari, for example, it would have greatly reduced the ratings.
I should have been clearer. I was referring to the circumstances (two teenagers, a qualifier vs 75th ranked player in a final), not the players. These two will likely meet again.
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Originally Posted by eXcentris View Post
I should have been clearer. I was referring to the circumstances (two teenagers, a qualifier vs 75th ranked player in a final), not the players. These two will likely meet again.
Actually, I thought you meant the women's final ratings being higher than the men's final. Heck, that might not even be uncommon. I have no idea, honestly. As for a qualifier playing a 75th seed? Yeah, nothing even close to that will ever happen again.
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^ Confusion x 2!

One interesting thing to watch on the men's side is the race to Turin (year-end championship), specifically the last couple of spots (only the top 8 qualify):

1. Djokovic 8370
2. Medvedev 6380
3. Tsitsipas 5470
4. Zverev 4915
5. Rublev 4030
6. Berettini 3955
7. Nadal 2985 (out with injury)
8. Ruud 2675
9. Hurkacz 2505
10. Felix A.A. 2320
11. Sinner 2255

Since Rafa is out, you have 4 guys fighting for the last two spots. Two months left!
Also, Djokovic will be the only player over 25 in that group.
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Originally Posted by eXcentris View Post
^ Confusion x 2!

One interesting thing to watch on the men's side is the race to Turin (year-end championship), specifically the last couple of spots (only the top 8 qualify):

1. Djokovic 8370
2. Medvedev 6380
3. Tsitsipas 5470
4. Zverev 4915
5. Rublev 4030
6. Berettini 3955
7. Nadal 2985 (out with injury)
8. Ruud 2675
9. Hurkacz 2505
10. Felix A.A. 2320
11. Sinner 2255

Since Rafa is out, you have 4 guys fighting for the last two spots. Two months left!
Hurkacz certainly didn't do himself any favors losing so early at the Open. Neither did Casper Ruud for that matter.

Also, in "I'm old" news, I once watched Casper's dad play Agassi in Atlanta and I was already well into my 20s.

Also, Djokovic will be the only player over 25 in that group.
I love this stat.
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I wonder how devastated Djokovic is. You know how much he wanted that. Is he really going to be able to shrug his shoulders and say, eh, whatever?

He would have unquestionably ended the GOAT debate with a win
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^ It's the USO AND the Olympics, that's gonna sting for a while. That said, he'll probably be back with a vengeance at the AO 2022, but it won't be easy. When you start getting beat, you lose that aura of invincibility, that "fear factor". The South African, Lloyd Harris just said "we (young guys) are not afraid of the big 3" or something similar.
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I wonder how devastated Djokovic is. You know how much he wanted that. Is he really going to be able to shrug his shoulders and say, eh, whatever?

He would have unquestionably ended the GOAT debate with a win
He is going to be asked about it constantly in Melbourne and the tennis media will focus on it in their coverage as well. If he wins the Aussie, they will shut up. If he does not, especially if he gets knocked out by one of the young'ins, it will get very interesting.
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Originally Posted by Osiris3657 View Post
I wonder how devastated Djokovic is. You know how much he wanted that. Is he really going to be able to shrug his shoulders and say, eh, whatever?

He would have unquestionably ended the GOAT debate with a win
I can appreciate the greatness of the big 3, but Fed will always be my sentimental favorite. Still, I can accept Djokovic being the GOAT even if they're all locked in at 20 slams a piece. It would have been hard to argue against him if he did end up winning the calendar slam, but that book has closed for good now. I'm pretty sure he will manage to win at least one more, probably several more. Alas, if Fed had managed to pull it off for Wimbledon 2019, it would be 21-20-19 slams a piece now, and he'd still probably be the favorite in the GOAT debate.
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Originally Posted by Osiris3657 View Post
I wonder how devastated Djokovic is. You know how much he wanted that. Is he really going to be able to shrug his shoulders and say, eh, whatever?

He would have unquestionably ended the GOAT debate with a win
Djokovic has suffered terrible losses before and come right back. I thought that loss to Wawrinka in the French Open Final, after finally vanquishing Nadal on clay, was going to devastate Djokovic's psyche. He was still gunning for the career Grand Slam at that point and everyone knew winning the French would be super difficult with Nadal around. Nope, went on to have maybe his best overall season over the next year.
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^ That was six years ago, Djokovic was still in his prime, and the stakes weren't as high because he's very unlikely to be in that position (to win a grand slam) again at his age. That said, I expect him to be ready for the AO.

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