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Old 11-04-18, 08:31 PM
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2018-2019 NCAA Basketball Regular Season Thread

Okay, the 2018-2019 Season kicks off on Tues 11/6/18

The highlight of the first day is a match up of two sets of Top 10 Teams in Indianapolis. Things will get interesting early this season

2018 STATE FARM CHAMPIONS CLASSIC

Location : Bankers Life Fieldhouse in Indianapolis

(1) Kansas vs (10) Michigan State - 7 PM ET
(2) Kentucky vs (4) Duke 9:30 PM ET

TV : ESPN
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espn's far too early bracketology
http://m.espn.com/ncb/bracketologyBy...&region=1&wjb=
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Far too early for college hoops to begin.
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Can't wait to see what ASU can do this year. A lot of turnover, but the talent they got to replace a lot of it has me hopeful. Luguentz Dort looks like he could be a beast.
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One and done U is getting blown out by 32
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Man, Duke is absolutely destroying Kentucky. Wouldn't be surprised if they jump KU to be #1 next week despite the Jayhawks beating the Spartans with relative ease.

Dammit Addidas, was it really that hard to find Zion Williamson's family some housing in Lawrence?
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It's going to be rough watching this regular season play out as a college hoops fan if the traditional powers are all at the top. And all beyond corrupt to boot.

Might have to watch as much Nevada and Loyola-Chi as possible. Sucks that the only power conference team that would schedule Loyola is Maryland. They deserve better. A lot better. At least they play each other in a few weeks.

Found this interesting from last night....Stony Brook was down 22-0 at the start and came back to beat GW in OT. That might be a record for largest shutout to start a game and coming back to win.
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Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Basketball Regular Season Thread

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One and done U is getting blown out by 32
Or up 32. Depends on which one you were referring to.
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Watched the second KU game yesterday, their home opener against Vermont (a regular winner of their conference and frequent Big Dance participant). All the new guys on KU -- Freshmen and transfers like Grimes, Lawson, Dodson all sucked. Fortunately the veterans bailed them out. Azubuike was a beast down low and most teams not named "Duke" will have no answer for him down low besides fouling like crazy. Looks like his awful FT shooting is at least somewhat better this year. The real hero was LaGerald Vick who shouldn't even be on the team after going Pro this off-season. When he didn't get a nibble, he asked back onto the Jayhawks, and they only let him back after a plead from his mom and a team vote. He went nuts yesterday, setting a Big 12 Record by going 8-for-8 from behind the arc and scoring 32 overall. Self called it the best offensive performance he's ever coached.

KU did drop to #2 in the rankings despite beating Michigan State and I'm 100% okay with that. Duke is way better than them, at least at this point in the season. I feel pretty good about the team overall though.
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Nova got beat down by Michigan a few days ago.

Got worse - lost to Furman at home in OT today.

Will Jay play the money game like the others? I'm guessing not. He'll jump to the NBA.
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Of course Duke hits that before halftime. Well, great first half for the Zags. Hope they can keep it up. Crazy pace.
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Of course Duke hits that before halftime. Well, great first half for the Zags. Hope they can keep it up. Crazy pace.
Did everything they could to give it to Duke down the stretch, but hung on. Barely.

Great win for the Zags. And without their 2nd best player.
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Watched the NIT Tip Off Championship game last night. Really ugly game, but my Jayhawks managed to beat down a very tough #5 Tennessee squad in OT (helped that their best player, 2017-18 SEC Player of the Year Grant Williams fouled out late in Regulation). We lost of big guy Azubuike as well to foul trouble, but this Kansas team is crazy deep and the Memphis transfers Dedrick and KJ Lawson picked up the slack. KU has now won 13 straight regular season games against Top 10 teams, which is kind of incredible really. This team still struggles and hasn't really put anybody away yet (except for maybe Michigan State in the season opener), but they're really deep and talented -- even more so if DeSousa is cleared and allowed back to play. This sure looks like a Final Four team, and so did Tennessee, who played some really active, aggressive defense.
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The first NET rankings, the system that the NCAA has created to be the primary deciding factor in the NCAA tournament selection. It's truly awful, a total disaster.

Initial NET ratings

The NCAA will update the rankings of all 353 schools on its website daily.

1. Ohio State (6-0)
2. Virginia (6-0)
3. Texas Tech (6-0)
4. Michigan (6-0)
5. Gonzaga (6-0)
6. Duke (5-1)
7. Michigan State (5-1)
8. Wisconsin (5-1)
9. Virginia Tech (5-0)
10. Loyola Marymount (7-0)
11. Kansas (5-0)
12. Belmont (5-0)
13. Nevada (6-0)
14. Nebraska (5-1)
15. Iowa (5-0)
16. Auburn (5-1)
17. Maryland (6-0)
18. Houston (4-0)
19. Notre Dame (5-1)
20. Purdue (5-1)
21. North Carolina (6-1)
22. Radford (4-1)
23. Pittsburgh (6-0)
24. Kansas State (6-0)
25. San Francisco (6-0)

Kentucky with one loss to Duke is #61. Michigan State is ranked higher than the undefeated Kansas team that thumped them opening night. Ohio State is #1 after four wins against sub 200 teams.

Among the critics of the new system Monday was statistician Nate Silver of FiveThirtyEight, who called the first list "the worst rankings I've ever seen in any sport, ever."
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Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Basketball Regular Season Thread

It's hard to evaluate a new rating system after only a couple weeks, though I think capping victory margin at 10 as a factor is short-sighted.

I'd like to see what the NET rankings would have been for last year on Selection Sunday.

Big upset last night as Oregon lost as a 20+ point favorite at home to TX Southern.
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I'd like to hear the metric by which 5-1 Michigan State whose only ranked victory is over #17 Texas is better than 5-0 Kansas who has wins over #5 Tennessee and #9 Michigan State. Looks to me like the NET is somehow giving greater weight to the Spartans' 68 point win over woeful TN Tech. That's an issue to me if the committee is really leaning on this system.

LMU is ranked #10 (higher than Kansas) and is ranked #122 by KenPom








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Re: 2018-2019 NCAA Basketball Regular Season Thread

And here's a Behind-the-Paywall ESPN+ article about it :

Why the NCAA's new hoops rating is all wrong
Monday, November 26, 2018
By John Gasaway

Spoiler:


C.J. Jackson scores for Ohio State, which is ranked No. 1 in the debut of the NCAA's new rating system.

Today the NCAA released the first rankings produced by its NCAA Evaluation Tool, the NET. It did not go well.

Ohio State is No. 1, Loyola Marymount is No. 10 and Belmont is No. 12.

As for Kentucky, you'll find the Wildcats down at No. 61.

If these rankings track your understanding of college basketball's hierarchy, then the NET's for you. Otherwise, a question is in order:

What in the world just happened? Better still, how in the world can this happen in 2018?


College basketball fans today are the happy beneficiaries of an information economy that's never been more plentiful. Throw a stick at the internet and you'll hit several trusted and robust yet independent and distinct rating systems for college basketball teams.


Certainly, the NCAA deserves credit for, at long last, doing away with the Ratings Percentage Index. But once the RPI was finally shown the door, all the NCAA had to do was throw open the analytic window, so to speak, and let the sun shine in. A composite index made up of several preexisting and proven rating systems, for example, would have been one possible course of action.

Instead, the NCAA chose to build something entirely new from the ground up. And the NET is what we got.

Sure, it's early. Yes, these ratings will now be updated daily, and, presumably, they'll correct toward something more closely approximating actual reality.

Granted, the RPI, even by RPI standards, was customarily a mess early in the season too. Indeed, the NCAA has been saying for years -- decades, actually -- that its rating system is "just one tool" for the use of the selection committee.

Goodness knows, if the NET really does stagger into March with a random evaluative spray pattern like what we see now, the men's basketball committee will take the "just one tool" mantra to heart and ignore the thing entirely. That would be the correct decision.

In the meantime, the worst-case scenario here is that coaches will look at these rankings and conclude that they should run up the score whenever possible. It would be hard to blame them.

Despite the NCAA's pledge to "cap" scoring margin at 10 points, this first cut of NET rankings appears to correlate pretty well with raw per-possession scoring margin. And, in this case, "raw" means without factoring in the quality of the opponent.

Again, look at Ohio State, the best team in the country to this point in the season according to the NET. Sure, the Buckeyes won road games at Cincinnati and Creighton by eight and nine points, respectively. That's impressive, no doubt about it.

Still, what may have given Chris Holtmann's team an additional boost is the fact that OSU won home games by 27 (against Cleveland State), 28 (South Carolina State) and 46 points (Purdue Fort Wayne). To put it bluntly, this would be the worst possible incentive structure for the sport.

If the NET were to be taken at face value, major-conference coaches would be forgiven henceforth for scheduling nothing but home games in the early season against the weakest opponents available. Build that scoring margin in November and December, and then hold on as best you can in conference play.

Surely it won't come to this, but, again, the question is why are we even having this discussion? More to the point, why are we having this discussion during the season?

When the NCAA announced in the offseason that it was rolling out its new rating system, the men and women in Indianapolis should have released retrospective NET rankings for, at a minimum, the 2017-18 season. The fact that this didn't happen meant the new system was something of a mystery heading into 2018-19.

Now that mystery's being dispelled, but in the worst way imaginable. So, once more, here is a request for the NCAA:

Release the NET rankings as they would have existed on Selection Sunday 2018. Who knows, maybe we'll see that this November mess will all blow over, and that the rankings really will sort themselves out. That would be good to know.

If, on the other hand, it turns out that Virginia Tech would have been a No. 1 seed (the Hokies beat The Citadel by 39), then it will be time to put the NET up on the same shelf as the RPI. Yes, it's only been out for one day. We may look back and say it was one day too many.

We have rating systems that rank college basketball teams quite well. The NCAA should feel free to use any or some combination of all of them. This does not have to be a problem.






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Man I used to think that Zion Williamson was the most dynamic college player I've seen since Anthony Davis. Now I think he's the most dynamic college player I've seen since Shaq. Bad NBA teams should be talking HARD for a shot at this guy.
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Congrats to Furman for making their first-ever appearance in the AP Top 25 (at #25) 2 weeks after beating Nova in OT.

Also, checking the Daily NET rankings, Kansas (#2 in the AP poll) has dropped to #14 in their rankings below TWO teams that they have already beaten including 2-loss Michigan State.
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Incredible end to regulation in Seton Hall/UK. 2 incredible miracle 3s -- onions, double order. OT. Perfect game for Screamin' Gus Johnson.
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a double side of onions in MSG
Seton Hall with a fall away 3 matched by Kentucky from half court
OT, 70 all
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Nice win by Seton Hall.
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Nice win by Seton Hall.
I caught the end of that at my gym. Huge win for them.
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TEN knocks off the Zags in a game inexplicably played in Phoenix.
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TEN knocks off the Zags in a game inexplicably played in Phoenix.
Awesome game. Schofield went off for Tenn. It also featured, hands down, the block of the year so far:
http://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=25492680
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